Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

sligojoek · 18-01-2019 06:06PM

Jaysus lads, start a boarding school thread. It has no bearing on this topic.

freshpopcorn · 18-01-2019 06:29PM

I wonder is she doing then year challenge?
How many kids has she had since 2009?

Plumbthedepths · 18-01-2019 06:30PM

freshpopcorn wrote:

I wonder is she doing then year challenge? How many kids has she had since 2009?

More than she can afford.

Roger Hassenforder · 18-01-2019 06:35PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

You are right I made a mistake ment Roger.

No worries

freshpopcorn · 18-01-2019 06:36PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

More than she can afford.

She never claimed to be poor!

Plumbthedepths · 18-01-2019 06:42PM

freshpopcorn wrote:

She never claimed to be poor!

She must be getting an income other than the handouts from the state so. When someone else is paying for her kids it's logical to assume she can't afford them and therefore is poor.

Roger Hassenforder · 18-01-2019 07:00PM

In fairness though Ray, you're a bit all over the place, and you still cant grasp salient points, despite your avowed intelligence, no doubt which contributed to you amassing your property portfolio, points made repeatedly by several posters. We're seeing diminishing returms on our efforts.

Ive no issue with supporting a traveller wanting to send his kids to school, get a job, have a life. They need all the help and supports they can get. Money well spent if you will. No issue with providing refuge for the traveller women who is 16 times as likely to have the shıt beaten out of her. Its the right thing to do.

Ive just got an issue with:
(*sighs, copies and pastes)

Criminality Fraud Violence Domestic violence Family fueding Child neglect Theft Bigotry Aggression Intimidation Anti social behaviour Dumping waste Animal cruelty Irresponsibility & Unaccountability
....and continuing to indulge a proportion of society who have no intention of working an honest days work, and who see society as but a soft touch to rob, cheat and mug off.

So, that would be a "no". You've absolutely nothing, other than saying I'm a racist, based on no evidence, other than you have called me one.
Chapeau. Excellent debating skills.

Ive been thinking though, maybe we could cut funding to rural communities affected by storm damage as punishment for the Council not spending their traveller budget? Because you're not suggesting anything, only repeating yourself. You've no one convinced. I doubt you even believe yourself.

tretorn · 18-01-2019 07:42PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Yes it does, building a house costs so much and additional size is cheaper to build after the initial costs.
Seriously you all think I am some liberal idiot commie but you lot are proving yourselves to have very poor comprehension and understanding on basic stuff.

I dont think its a case of us thinking you are an idiot liberal idiot, you have posted enough idiotic nonsense to prove that you are an idiot commie.

If people are stupid enough to pay for private schooling then let them off. This means the only part of that schooling the Government pays for is the teaching, the teachers have to be employed and paid for no matter where the private school pupils go so private schools are a benefit to the exchequer.

Fine Gael will never allow moves against private schools or private hospitals. The main reason people pay for private schools is so their children can go to school with people like themselves and go their whole lives long without ever having to cross paths with Cashes children. its the same with private hospitals, you have less chance of being stuck in award with drunks and smokingobese addicts so the peace you will get if you are unwell is worth every cent. The Government encourage private health insurance through tax reliefs so private hospitals arent going anywhere either.

Goldengirl · 18-01-2019 10:38PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Can you imagine getting so drunk and stoned that you'd end up setting your house on fire and putting your son in that position?

No but I never said I condoned that , what I said is the council were accountable ALSO.

Plumbthedepths · 18-01-2019 11:02PM

Goldengirl wrote:

No but I never said I condoned that , what I said is the council were accountable ALSO.

Council are not accountable. The only one accountable became a victim by his own stupidity.

tuxy · 18-01-2019 11:09PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

No but I never said I condoned that , what I said is the council were accountable ALSO.

Are you taking about steps to clamp down on illegal activity that make halting sites unsafe? That's more of a matter for the Gardi than the council.

They tampered with the fire hydrant so that had to be shut off.
They tampered with the electricity.
They added a prefab to the site without permission.

So the issues are not council but the lake of enforcement of the law.
The Garda can't catch every traveller that comments a crime and their is no room in prisons for them anyway.

gormdubhgorm · 18-01-2019 11:16PM

How is this thread still going?

What has Margaret done now?

Or is the thread just going around in the same circles?

Mad_maxx · 18-01-2019 11:35PM

tretorn wrote: »

I dont think its a case of us thinking you are an idiot liberal idiot, you have posted enough idiotic nonsense to prove that you are an idiot commie.

If people are stupid enough to pay for private schooling then let them off. This means the only part of that schooling the Government pays for is the teaching, the teachers have to be employed and paid for no matter where the private school pupils go so private schools are a benefit to the exchequer.

Fine Gael will never allow moves against private schools or private hospitals. The main reason people pay for private schools is so their children can go to school with people like themselves and go their whole lives long without ever having to cross paths with Cashes children. its the same with private hospitals, you have less chance of being stuck in award with drunks and smokingobese addicts so the peace you will get if you are unwell is worth every cent. The Government encourage private health insurance through tax reliefs so private hospitals arent going anywhere either.

Myself and my partner are unlikely to be able to afford to send our son to private school but I would if I could, im dreading sending my boy into a leftists dominated public education system

gormdubhgorm · 18-01-2019 11:48PM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Myself and my partner are unlikely to be able to afford to send our son to private school but I would if I could, im dreading sending my boy into a leftists dominated public education system

It must keep you up at night....!

freshpopcorn · 18-01-2019 11:51PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

How is this thread still going?

What has Margaret done now?

Or is the thread just going around in the same circles?

Margaret has campaigned to improve her situation.
The thread keeps going because people want to discuss the matter.

sligojoek · 19-01-2019 12:19AM

Goldengirl wrote: »

No but I never said I condoned that , what I said is the council were accountable ALSO.

You're going on about the council all the time.

Tell us exactly how the council are to blame. As I said already, The council can't send a minder to each site every night in case somebody collapses in a heap while the chip pan is still on.

StinkyMunkey · 19-01-2019 12:21AM

This woman is so much more clever than people give her credit for, she has a gaggle of kids and it's milking the system that pampers to her ilk. While everyone ones moans and give out, she is sitting with her feet up laughing at us eejits working for a living.

All she has to do is keep popping out kids and the gravy train gets better and better. Her spawn will milk the system after mammy shows them just how easy it is. Personally I couldn't be a leech like her, but her kind will leech as long as they can get away with it.

Don't know who sickens me more, her kind or the kind that defend her.

Filmer Paradise · 19-01-2019 12:45AM

StinkyMunkey wrote: »

This woman is so much more clever than people give her credit for, she has a gaggle of kids and it's milking the system that pampers to her ilk. While everyone ones moans and give out, she is sitting with her feet up laughing at us eejits working for a living.

All she has to do is keep popping out kids and the gravy train gets better and better. Her spawn will milk the system after mammy shows them just how easy it is. Personally I couldn't be a leech like her, but her kind will leech as long as they can get away with it. 7

Don't know who sickens me more, her kind or the kind that defend her.

Two cheeks of the same arse.

The Elites 'earn' so much that they're never going to have to live beside them. 'Shure aren't they great craic with their quaint little customs'. All that guff.:rolleyes:

The underclass inhabit the same envionment as the pavees & see them as quite normal.

Meanwhile, the working/coping class have to pick up the the tab for all of the wasters mentioned above.

Pavees, Elites & the underclass need to be strung up and shot.

None of them are worth their weight in rabbit droppings.

Edit; At least rabbit droppings can make your grass grow!

gormdubhgorm · 19-01-2019 01:28AM

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

Two cheeks of the same arse.

The Elites 'earn' so much that they're never going to have to live beside them. 'Shure aren't they great craic with their quaint little customs'. All that guff.:rolleyes:

The underclass inhabit the same envionment as the pavees & see them as quite normal.

Meanwhile, the working/coping class have to pick up the the tab for all of the wasters mentioned above.

Pavees, Elites & the underclass need to be strung up and shot.

None of them are worth their weight in rabbit droppings.

Edit; At least rabbit droppings can make your grass grow!

Not true, the 'elites' can hate travellers just as much as anyone else can.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/howth-halting-sites-plan-deferred-at-heated-fingal-council-meeting-1.80570

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/council-approves-controversial-traveller-halting-sites-26123015.html

Filmer Paradise · 19-01-2019 01:34AM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Not true, the 'elites' can hate travellers just as much as anyone else can.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/howth-halting-sites-plan-deferred-at-heated-fingal-council-meeting-1.80570

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/council-approves-controversial-traveller-halting-sites-26123015.html

They have the power to keep them off their doorsteps.

The rest of us haven't got that luxury.

gormdubhgorm · 19-01-2019 01:43AM

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

They have the power to keep them off their doorsteps.

The rest of us haven't got that luxury.

I can definitely see the hypocrisy of certain high profile members of the media.

Pat Kenny fights against a development beside his home against a property developer.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/broadcaster-pat-kenny-objects-to-ill-thought-housing-development-next-to-his-dalkey-home-883587.html

But in Finglas:

Pat Kenny on walkabout says the traveller's live 'third world conditions'.

https://www.thejournal.ie/travellers-living-conditions-2421692-Nov2015/

NIMAN · 19-01-2019 01:58AM

sure 5 of the 6 presidential candidates basically said, "move a halting site in beside my house, I'd love one there".

pjohnson · 19-01-2019 07:37AM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Myself and my partner are unlikely to be able to afford to send our son to private school but I would if I could, im dreading sending my boy into a leftists dominated public education system

Then you shouldnt have had a kid. Is that not one of the staple points of this thread? Cash had kids she couldn't afford seems you did to.

xi5yvm0owc1s2b · 19-01-2019 08:45AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Then you shouldnt have had a kid. Is that not one of the staple points of this thread? Cash had kids she couldn't afford seems you did to.

That poster has one child, who will be educated with the support of the state, just like the vast majority of other Irish children. But I assume the poster and their partner will provide for many other aspects of the child's upbringing.

Margaret Cash has seven children, who are being raised entirely on income provided by the state. Food, clothing, housing, etc. The taxpayer provides 100 percent of the costs of raising those seven kids, while Margaret and her estranged husband provide 0 percent.

Moreover, Margaret's children are unlikely to get much of an education, if typical Traveller patterns prevail, and will be likely to go on and become dependent on the state themselves.

There's no comparison, in short.

pjohnson · 19-01-2019 08:49AM

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

That poster has one child who will be educated with the support of the state (just like the vast majority of other Irish children)

But the poster does not want their child in a public "leftist" school. If the poster wants a private education for their child should they not ensure they have the money to guarantee a private education?

xi5yvm0owc1s2b · 19-01-2019 08:51AM

pjohnson wrote: »

But the poster does not want their child in a public "leftist" school. If the poster wants a private education for their child should they not ensure they have the money to guarantee a private education?

There's a big difference between having one child you cannot afford to educate privately and having seven children you cannot afford to house, feed, and clothe.

Atoms for Peace · 19-01-2019 08:56AM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Myself and my partner are unlikely to be able to afford to send our son to private school but I would if I could, im dreading sending my boy into a leftists dominated public education system

Just don't send them to an educate-together then.

pjohnson · 19-01-2019 08:57AM

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

There's a big difference between having one child you cannot afford to educate privately and having seven children you cannot afford to house, feed, and clothe.

Obviously in terms of the actual cost but it seems in both cases the parent isn't able to fully provide for their child. Irresponsibe behaviour.

normanoffside · 19-01-2019 09:27AM

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

The taxpayer provides 100 percent of the costs of raising those seven kids, while Margaret and her estranged husband provide 0 percent.

That’s probably not true, even though the taxpayer provides her a healthy income I’d be fairly sure she has a few means of topping it up

. The thread title should give a few clues as to what I mean.

Roger Hassenforder · 19-01-2019 09:35AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Obviously in terms of the actual cost but it seems in both cases the parent isn't able to fully provide for their child. Irresponsibe behaviour.

We've reached peak obtuse on this thread.

They might prefer a private school and prefer a fabulous house in a coastal view in Killiney, and prefer a Maserati as a runaround, but they're working their holes off to do their best.
Unlike our thead subject.

But i think you know this, and think you're being clever.

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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