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Ray Palmer wrote: »

Asked and answered. I repeat what level of racist are you?
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Given the standards by which you are judging what it is to be racist, can you tell me which of the following statements you agree with and which you believe to be racist?


1. The culture of criminality, misogyny and homophobia within the travelling community in Ireland should be condemned, particularly how it manifests itself in seeing young girls being taken out of school at 12/13, married off a few years later to close relatives, being turned into baby factories and occupying a disproportionate share of women's refuges (All of these are facts, backed up in census statistics and independent reports).

2. The culture of criminality within the Mafia community in Italy should be condemned.

3. The culture of misogyny within certain African tribes which sees young babies subject to FGM should be condemned.

4. The culture of misogyny and homophobia within certain Islamic societies and cultures should be condemned, particularly how it results in prosecutions for sodomy and adultery.

5. The culture of expansion of the state of Israel in order to oppress Palestinians should be condemned.


You can just list 1-5 and whether you agree or disagree with the statements. It will help me classify where you fit in to the type of racist you are.

blanch152 wrote: »

No issue with taking funding away from private schools. It should be done on a phased basis over a number of years so that there isn't a sharp shock with all the pupils suddenly wanting places in overcrowded existing public schools.



Private schools do not get the same level of funding from the government. They get paid for the same number of teachers, but they do not get capitation funding and generally are not eligible for most capital funding. If private schools closed overnight, there would be a significant cost to the taxpayer hence my suggestion above of a phased move.

P.S. I had children, some of whom were educated publicly, some privately, it depended on their needs and wants.

You dont have an issue with taking funding away from private schools but in the same post you say that they cost the taxpayers less money than public schools? WTF??

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Who dafuq is George?
You talking to me?

You are right I made a mistake ment Roger.

blanch152 wrote: »

Private schools cost the taxpayers less money than public schools, yes, but my objection is to them being subsidised at all. I have no issue with someone paying €7k to have their child educated privately, I just don't think the State should contribute in that case. If that means fees going up to €10k or €12k or more, sure some people will stop paying it and revert to the public system, but plenty of them will pay the higher fee, so I don't think the state will be down money.

It only costs the State more money if every pupil in a private school subsequently transfers to a public school. I would guesstimate that if as few as 15% of pupils stay in private schools, then the State would be up money by abolishing the existing subsidy.

I don't understand your logic.

You are advocating taking money from private schools that save the State money.

So if you take money away from private schools, the State has to step in and spend more money.

Can you not see that the private schools are actually providing a good service and benefiting the State.

Why would you shoot yourself in the foot and penalise private schools that are actually saving you money?


Can't say I agree with your guestimate either.

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Anyone else waiting on something?

An alibi

Well in relation to the death of a homeless man in Belfast Margaret has posted "How many more people gonna did on the streets on the cold R.I.P'

Alos reposted that TRAVELLER FAMILIES WIN REPRIEVE FROM EVICTION

Five Traveller families threatened with eviction have won a reprieve to stop their removal from a site in Clondalkin.

This comes after local councillors called for a solution to the standoff between the families and South Dublin County Council.

The families, who have 28 children including two toddlers, have been living in caravans on an old school site in Balgaddy with no electricity or running water, for the last two months.

They were due to be evicted by South Dublin County Council on Friday 11th, but it was called off after the families refused to leave.

Martin Collins, Director of Pavee Point, called on Housing Minister Eoghan Murphy to help the families.

“Ongoing evictions by local authorities and other public landowners is causing Travellers unnecessary hardship and suffering,” he said.

“The Minister has a humanitarian responsibility here to intervene.

“Evictions get us nowhere and Travellers feel like they are being persecuted for simply trying to survive.

“It is not fair to punish individual Traveller families, who are just trying to survive, for the failures of the State and general society overall.”

https://dublingazette.com/news/west-dublin-news/travellers-eviction-23896/

Yeah cause the families are being persecuted for being able to pull up and enter a site which they don't own

They didn't abide the agreement they entered in

I fail to see how moving these families who have no rights to be there is is causing Travellers unnecessary hardship and suffering

All the fault of society overall

BattleCorp wrote: »

Why would you shoot yourself in the foot and penalise private schools that are actually saving you money?
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The reason you are confused is because you think it saves money when it doesn't.
It costs public school funding because of economy of scales. It hoovers up funding and make public schools worse off. Less pupils in local schools restricts their access to facilities and teachers. It is going to be stopped but it should have happened sooner. Private school pupils don't really do that much better either anyway

Ray Palmer wrote: »

The reason you are confused is because you think it saves money when it doesn't.
It costs public school funding because of economy of scales. It hoovers up funding and make public schools worse off. Less pupils in local schools restricts their access to facilities and teachers. It is going to be stopped but it should have happened sooner. Private school pupils don't really do that much better either anyway

the only word for that is bollix. they get the same grant per pupil as public schools. Economies of scale do not apply to schools.

punisher5112 wrote: »

So basically let yourself onto any land or property and state you are a traveller.


You now have the best chance of getting away with whatever you want.

Amazing.

hell yeah, great idea

Economy of scale doesn't apply to the topic of this thread. If it did child number 7 would cost us next to nothing.

punisher5112 wrote: »

So basically let yourself onto any land or property and state you are a traveller.


You now have the best chance of getting away with whatever you want.

Amazing.

Yeah pity the trespass law isn't being used as it should and the caravans confiscated off them

"When RTÉ Investigates first met Patrick McInerney in October, he had moved illegally onto a disused construction site in Tullamore. When we went back a week later, the family had already been moved on - the site was blocked up and a single security guard sat in a car outside the main entrance, to stop any further unauthorised entry. The Traveller families, ten in all, had relocated to a Retail Park not far away. They lasted four days there before receiving an eviction notice posted to their caravan doors. That notice warned them of prosecution under a provision of the so-called 2002 Trespass Act, which made trespass a criminal offence for the first time.

Under that Act Gardaí can evict without a written notice and if the trespassers refuse to leave they can confiscate their caravans or vehicles.

It is one of a number of laws that Councils can use to evict people and it is the most feared by Travellers, because it allows the State to confiscate a family home without going to court."

https://www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2018/1217/1017612-travellers-in-local-authorities-data/

Local councils should move them on as soon as they know they are there

In the case in Clondalkin the family A planned eviction was postponed before Christmas to allow the families time to arrange somewhere to go.

The families said they would leave but now haven't

Stay somewhere you shouldn't should = caravan confiscation

Yeah true enough

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Economy of scale doesn't apply to the topic of this thread. If it did child number 7 would cost us next to nothing.

Yes it does, building a house costs so much and additional size is cheaper to build after the initial costs.
Seriously you all think I am some liberal idiot commie but you lot are proving yourselves to have very poor comprehension and understanding on basic stuff.