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Martin O'Neill. an embarassment.

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  • #32
    NIMAN
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    IMHO Forest won't get a play-off spot now, but sure there'll be a bit of craic at their press conferences.


  • #33
    magma69
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    What's so embarrassing about wanting to bring an assistant to a new job. Managers have been doing it for as long as the game existed?

    This thread is just a big "I don't like Roy Keane" whinge. Dry your eyes pal.


  • #34
    Marengo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Marengo


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    ONeill was bloody useless managing Ireland.

    A has been. We’re very fond of has beens rather than up and coming talent. And then the one time they go for youth they pick Stan the Gaffer:o


  • #35
    The Talking Bread
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    Right I am off to the Forest fan forum to assess the carnage!

    giphy.gif


  • #36
    goose2005
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    Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »
    i have always viewed keane as a wrecker. a good player but a terrible man-manager. i think his abrasive personality is unsuited for modernday management.

    A good player doesn't make a good manager, anymore than a good chef makes a good farmer.


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  • #37
    Atoms for Peace
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    Roy is the boy and anyone who thinks otherwise is an absolute Langer.


  • #38
    Marengo
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    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    Roy is the boy and anyone who thinks otherwise is an absolute Langer.

    Roy is the boy that never became the man:)

    No that’s overly harsh. As a Man U footballer 1993-2005, he was the man. Just other aspects of his personality he never developed.


  • #39
    Wheres Me Jumper?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Wheres Me Jumper?


    NIMAN wrote: »
    IMHO Forest won't get a play-off spot now, but sure there'll be a bit of craic at their press conferences.

    reminds me of when keane took over at Ipswich Town. they were actually doing quite well having just missed out on promotion under Magilton.
    Keane arrived. pi€€ed off the players. lost their backing and well the rest is history.


  • #40
    Church on Tuesday
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    I wouldn't call the man an embarrassment.

    He's a highly decorated former player and manager and for the most part did a good job with a bang average Ireland team, just getting to the Euros was a huge achievement.

    I wish him the very best at Forrest.


  • #41
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    Marengo wrote: »
    Roy is the boy that never became the man:)

    No that’s overly harsh. As a Man U footballer 1993-2005, he was the man. Just other aspects of his personality he never developed.

    i would contend he is emotionally underdeveloped.
    maybe he might feature on a Gillette advert?


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  • #42
    DeanAustin
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    I’m amazed to see how far Keanes stock has fallen in the last 10-15 years in the eyes of the general public. You couldn’t move for the people telling you what a great manager he’d make because “he has a winning mentality and will always strive for perfection.”

    You don’t manage people buy roaring at them or giving them the proverbial kick up the hole as your only motivational tool. And Keane was always going to be that type of manager.

    Ill leave aside the rather ropey logic of him always wanting to win which was always bollox. Roy Keane was a great player but he always wanted what suited Roy Keane best. Most of the time that was winning football games and, as a player, he contributed a lot to that cause. But when Roy Keane wanted to settle scores (Haaland, McAteer, Southgate), he didn’t give a flying **** about winning games.


  • #43
    Marengo
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    Church on Tuesday wrote: »
    I wouldn't call the man an embarrassment.

    He's a highly decorated former player and manager and for the most part did a good job with a bang average Ireland team, just getting to the Euros was a huge achievement.

    I wish him the very best at Forrest.

    6 years ago I would totally agree with you.

    I think more than his results with Ireland I disliked how dismissive he was of the media. Decent guys like Tony O’Donohue. O’Neill became unbearably self righteous towards the end of his term.


  • #44
    Marengo
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    DeanAustin wrote: »
    I’m amazed to see how far Keanes stock has fallen in the last 10-15 years in the eyes of the general public. You couldn’t move for the people telling you what a great manager he’d make because “he has a winning mentality and will always strive for perfection.”

    You don’t manage people buy roaring at them or giving them the proverbial kick up the hole as your only motivational tool. And Keane was always going to be that type of manager.

    Ill leave aside the rather ropey logic of him always wanting to win which was always bollox. Roy Keane was a great player but he always wanted what suited Roy Keane best. Most of the time that was winning football games and, as a player, he contributed a lot to that cause. But when Roy Keane wanted to settle scores (Haaland, McAteer, Southgate), he didn’t give a flying **** about winning games.

    Exactly. That style of management is 1980s. Note how Alex Ferguson developed to get the best out of footballers in the 2000s.


  • #45
    Wheres Me Jumper?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Wheres Me Jumper?




  • #46
    Skylinehead
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    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=151

    Soccer forum, not AH, for football please.


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