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Martin O'Neill. an embarassment.

Wheres Me Jumper?

sorry folks but i've lost all respect for our erstwhile manager. his latest attempt to promote roy keane as his 2nd in command at Nottingham Forrest is nothing short of embarrassing.

O'Neill said: "I would dearly like him (Keane) to join us. Since this has happened very quickly he has a number of things to sort out himself. There's a spot open for him and I hope it happens. It may not, as he has a few things to sort out himself both personally and professionally.

"He was a great asset to me at Republic of Ireland and we had some really great days.

"He can be a handful. He was a special player, a fantastic footballer who drove Manchester United on for 10 years and you don't win those things just sitting around."

Give over Martin! isn't it time you accepted the guy is a liability, and do the decent thing and cut him loose.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/he-can-be-a-handful-martin-oneill-expresses-hope-that-special-roy-keane-will-join-him-at-nottingham-forest-37722024.html

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NIMAN

IMHO Forest won't get a play-off spot now, but sure there'll be a bit of craic at their press conferences.

magma69

What's so embarrassing about wanting to bring an assistant to a new job. Managers have been doing it for as long as the game existed?

This thread is just a big "I don't like Roy Keane" whinge. Dry your eyes pal.

Marengo

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

ONeill was bloody useless managing Ireland.

A has been. We’re very fond of has beens rather than up and coming talent. And then the one time they go for youth they pick Stan the Gaffer:o

The Talking Bread

Right I am off to the Forest fan forum to assess the carnage!

goose2005

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

i have always viewed keane as a wrecker. a good player but a terrible man-manager. i think his abrasive personality is unsuited for modernday management.

A good player doesn't make a good manager, anymore than a good chef makes a good farmer.

Atoms for Peace

Roy is the boy and anyone who thinks otherwise is an absolute Langer.

Marengo

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Roy is the boy and anyone who thinks otherwise is an absolute Langer.

Roy is the boy that never became the man:)

No that’s overly harsh. As a Man U footballer 1993-2005, he was the man. Just other aspects of his personality he never developed.

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NIMAN wrote: »

IMHO Forest won't get a play-off spot now, but sure there'll be a bit of craic at their press conferences.

reminds me of when keane took over at Ipswich Town. they were actually doing quite well having just missed out on promotion under Magilton.
Keane arrived. pi€€ed off the players. lost their backing and well the rest is history.

Church on Tuesday

I wouldn't call the man an embarrassment.

He's a highly decorated former player and manager and for the most part did a good job with a bang average Ireland team, just getting to the Euros was a huge achievement.

I wish him the very best at Forrest.

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Marengo wrote: »

Roy is the boy that never became the man:)

No that’s overly harsh. As a Man U footballer 1993-2005, he was the man. Just other aspects of his personality he never developed.

i would contend he is emotionally underdeveloped.
maybe he might feature on a Gillette advert?

DeanAustin

I’m amazed to see how far Keanes stock has fallen in the last 10-15 years in the eyes of the general public. You couldn’t move for the people telling you what a great manager he’d make because “he has a winning mentality and will always strive for perfection.”

You don’t manage people buy roaring at them or giving them the proverbial kick up the hole as your only motivational tool. And Keane was always going to be that type of manager.

Ill leave aside the rather ropey logic of him always wanting to win which was always bollox. Roy Keane was a great player but he always wanted what suited Roy Keane best. Most of the time that was winning football games and, as a player, he contributed a lot to that cause. But when Roy Keane wanted to settle scores (Haaland, McAteer, Southgate), he didn’t give a flying **** about winning games.

Marengo

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I wouldn't call the man an embarrassment.

He's a highly decorated former player and manager and for the most part did a good job with a bang average Ireland team, just getting to the Euros was a huge achievement.

I wish him the very best at Forrest.

6 years ago I would totally agree with you.

I think more than his results with Ireland I disliked how dismissive he was of the media. Decent guys like Tony O’Donohue. O’Neill became unbearably self righteous towards the end of his term.

Marengo

DeanAustin wrote: »

I’m amazed to see how far Keanes stock has fallen in the last 10-15 years in the eyes of the general public. You couldn’t move for the people telling you what a great manager he’d make because “he has a winning mentality and will always strive for perfection.”

You don’t manage people buy roaring at them or giving them the proverbial kick up the hole as your only motivational tool. And Keane was always going to be that type of manager.

Ill leave aside the rather ropey logic of him always wanting to win which was always bollox. Roy Keane was a great player but he always wanted what suited Roy Keane best. Most of the time that was winning football games and, as a player, he contributed a lot to that cause. But when Roy Keane wanted to settle scores (Haaland, McAteer, Southgate), he didn’t give a flying **** about winning games.

Exactly. That style of management is 1980s. Note how Alex Ferguson developed to get the best out of footballers in the 2000s.

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Skylinehead

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Soccer forum, not AH, for football please.