What happens if I drive with an expired driving licence ?

Irexit · 13-01-2019 08:10PM #1

My driving licence has almost expired.

I'm just wondering what are the consequences if I don't update my licence.

In the 10 years I have been driving I have never once being asked to produce a driving licence.

My car is fully tax and and insured but I don't see much point in updating my licence seeing that I've never needed to use it.

raabbles · 13-01-2019 08:19PM

The point is it's the law. Aside from that, its a lot less stressful to fill out a renewal form then deal with that one time you need it, followed by your car being taken and court.

Risk/reward is a no brainer here

Samuel T. Cogley · 13-01-2019 08:19PM

0/10

Fann Linn · 13-01-2019 08:20PM

Irexit wrote: »

My driving licence has almost expired.

I'm just wondering what are the consequences if I don't update my licence.

In the 10 years I have been driving I have never once being asked to produce a driving licence.

My car is fully tax and and insured but I don't see much point in updating my licence seeing that I've never needed to use it.

You're not insured if ye haven't got a current licence.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy · 13-01-2019 08:21PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

You're not insured if ye haven't got a current licence.

Aaaaaaaand you bit.

Fann Linn · 13-01-2019 08:23PM

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

Aaaaaaaand you bit.[/quote

I believe it's called 'check'.

Under His Eye · 13-01-2019 08:43PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

You're not insured if ye haven't got a current licence.

Incorrect.

aaakev · 13-01-2019 08:45PM

Irexit wrote: »

My driving licence has almost expired.

I'm just wondering what are the consequences if I don't update my licence.

In the 10 years I have been driving I have never once being asked to produce a driving licence.

My car is fully tax and and insured but I don't see much point in updating my licence seeing that I've never needed to use it.

Just get the license ya lazy bastaad

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Caranica · 13-01-2019 09:00PM

1994 Road Traffic Act requires you to carry a valid driving licence. If yours is almost out of date get booking an appointment fast, they book out weeks in advance!

Eggs For Dinner · 13-01-2019 10:33PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

You're not insured if ye haven't got a current licence.

"Holds a licence, or having held a licence and is not disqualified from holding...."

You are insured with an expired licence

4ensic15 · 14-01-2019 01:09AM

Being discovered not to be carrying a licence may result in a charge and conviction. That will result in penalty point and penalty points may lead to difficulties with insurance.

GM228 · 14-01-2019 03:32PM

4ensic15 wrote: »

Being discovered not to be carrying a licence may result in a charge and conviction. That will result in penalty point and penalty points may lead to difficulties with insurance.

There are no penalty points associated with no driving licence offences.

coylemj · 14-01-2019 03:32PM

Irexit wrote: »

In the 10 years I have been driving I have never once being asked to produce a driving licence.

Your house probably didn't burn down in that 10 years either but I bet you still pay the insurance.

ezra_ · 14-01-2019 03:58PM

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

"Holds a licence, or having held a licence and is not disqualified from holding...."

You are insured with an expired licence

I can never understand that clause. Why don't Insurance companies mandate a current licence when getting a policy?

Tacitus Kilgore · 14-01-2019 04:06PM

ezra_ wrote: »

I can never understand that clause. Why don't Insurance companies mandate a current licence when getting a policy?

Troll thread, but anyway -

Why does it even matter? Not like a renewal comes from the result of a test.

ArrBee · 14-01-2019 04:12PM

A friend of mine had a license that was 10yrs expired.
Didn't cop until he was asked for it when getting an NCT.

ezra_ · 14-01-2019 04:54PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Troll thread, but anyway -

Why does it even matter? Not like a renewal comes from the result of a test.

Licence enforcement in this country isn't great as it is. Having the insurers crack down on at least having a valid licence isn't a bad thing IMO

Tacitus Kilgore · 14-01-2019 05:01PM

ezra_ wrote: »

Licence enforcement in this country isn't great as it is. Having the insurers crack down on at least having a valid licence isn't a bad thing IMO

Meh, once a driver passes their test and applies for their licence, they are now 'licenced' to drive, the physical document to verify this comes with an expiry - however the driver's licencing does not expire. So it's a waste of time doing this.

Plus, there's already plenty sticks in the bag for beating Irish motorists, why add more?

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 14-01-2019 05:09PM

Sense of entitlement to not have a licence?

A person can renew their licence/permit 3 months in advance if the expiry date.

Anyone who has a licence that has lapsed, like the nct guy, shouldn’t be left near a motor vehicle.

It takes all of 10 seconds to take the licence/permit out of the wallet/purse/handbag to check the expiration date.

I’ve bern to the NDLS twice in the last 10 days without an appointment, fairly good service.

Is the fear of renewing the licence/permit the new fear of taking a test?

Tacitus Kilgore · 14-01-2019 05:15PM

Entitlement yeah :rolleyes:

An expiry date has nothing to do with the ability to drive a motor vehicle. Hell a lot of licenced drivers have never even spent the 20 minutes demonstrating that they can actually drive a motor vehicle in the first place. The ability to walk into a NDLS office doesn't demonstrate it either.

It's a box ticking exercise in bureaucracy, that's all.

ArrBee · 14-01-2019 05:15PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

...however the driver's licencing does not expire...

Not sure the above is correct.
After the document is expired there is a grace period to get it renewed, but after that you are no longer licensed to drive.

As mentioned above a friend had this happen recently.
They had to start again as if the were applying for a new license.

But, I do agree the insurance companies should not be policing this.

Tacitus Kilgore · 14-01-2019 05:16PM

ArrBee wrote: »

Not sure the above is correct.
After the document is expired there is a grace period to get it renewed, but after that you are no longer licensed to drive.

As mentioned above a friend had this happen recently.
They had to start again as if the were applying for a new license.

That would be news to me, I'm happy to be wrong if I can see something to confirm

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 14-01-2019 05:21PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Entitlement yeah :rolleyes:

An expiry date has nothing to do with the ability to drive a motor vehicle. Hell a lot of licenced drivers have never even spent the 20 minutes demonstrating that they can actually drive a motor vehicle in the first place. The ability to walk into a NDLS office doesn't demonstrate it either.

It's a box ticking exercise in bureaucracy, that's all.

Follow the UK so and issue until 70 years old is it with no renewal until then, not a chance in this great country :rolleyes:

ArthurG · 14-01-2019 05:22PM

Why on earth would you want to take the risk?

splinter65 · 14-01-2019 05:22PM

Irexit wrote: »

My driving licence has almost expired.

I'm just wondering what are the consequences if I don't update my licence.

In the 10 years I have been driving I have never once being asked to produce a driving licence.

My car is fully tax and and insured but I don't see much point in updating my licence seeing that I've never needed to use it.

Your insurance is invalid if you don’t have an up to date licence.

Tacitus Kilgore · 14-01-2019 05:24PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Your insurance is invalid if you don’t have an up to date licence.

That's already been debunked. In the thread.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 14-01-2019 05:25PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Your insurance is invalid if you don’t have an up to date licence.

They’ll only pay out for third parties I believe but have a right of recovery

coylemj · 14-01-2019 05:28PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Meh, once a driver passes their test and applies for their licence, they are now 'licenced' to drive, the physical document to verify this comes with an expiry - however the driver's licencing does not expire.

This is nonsense. When your driving licence expires, you are no longer licensed to drive.

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

That would be news to me, I'm happy to be wrong if I can see something to confirm

38.—(1) A person shall not drive a mechanically propelled vehicle in a public place unless he holds a driving licence for the time being having effect and licensing him to drive the vehicle.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1961/act/24/section/38/enacted/en/html#sec38

If your licence expired more than 10 years ago and you want to get a new one, you are required to start from scratch - do the theory test, get a learner permit and do the driving test. But during that 10 years (after your licence expires), you are not licensed to drive.

.G. · 14-01-2019 05:39PM

ArrBee wrote:

A friend of mine had a license that was 10yrs expired. Didn't cop until he was asked for it when getting an NCT.

They would have had to re sit the driving test in that case.

Tacitus Kilgore · 14-01-2019 05:41PM

Cap in hand, I was way off.

macnug · 14-01-2019 05:44PM

I havnt been asked for my licence in over ten years until last week when I was asked twice at two different check points, seems to be a bit of a crackdown lately.

What happens if I drive with an expired driving licence ?

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