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Executive Officer Campaign 2019 Mod warning #1682

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  • #2
    tgdaly
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭tgdaly


    Here we go again! Good luck to all


  • #3
    chillmad
    Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭chillmad


    Thanks for the link! Good luck all!


  • #4
    mdwexford
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Actually this is just for DPER.

    Was half asleep reading it earlier.

    Maybe a mod can change the thread title.


  • #5
    Whatchemean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ✭Whatchemean


    mdwexford wrote: »
    Actually this is just for DPER.

    Was half asleep reading it earlier.

    Maybe a mod can change the thread title.

    DPER is just the authority over it, it seems to be the new nationwide competition (except Dublin).


  • #6
    Ernesto Guevara
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭Ernesto Guevara


    Currently on a panel for a CO position, am I right in thinking the 2 years service doesn't apply to open competitions?


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  • #7
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Ernesto Guevara wrote: »
    Currently on a panel for a CO position, am I right in thinking the 2 years service doesn't apply to open competitions?


    Correct.


  • #8
    Noseyaf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭Noseyaf


    Awaiting a position from the CO com
    Def gunna apply for this
    Will this be a year long process aswell


  • #9
    Ctb2390
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Ctb2390


    Anybody know the starting salary?


  • #10
    tgdaly
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭tgdaly


    Ctb2390 wrote: »
    Anybody know the starting salary?
    €29,609, scale is in the information booklet


  • #11
    Vologda69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    Video interviews (guideline notes)? Is that a new thing to EO campaigns?


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  • #12
    CandyCane_81
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭CandyCane_81


    Vologda69 wrote: »
    Video interviews (guideline notes)? Is that a new thing to EO campaigns?

    Hopefully not!!!! I did one before and got so distracted by trying to focus camera and then my sound was off! I nearly had my head stuck in my laptop to hear my answers to the questions.

    I know having to travel to Dublin can be a pain for some, but I would take it any day over a video interview! 😂


  • #13
    Vologda69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    Daydreamer94 wrote: »
    Hopefully not!!!! I did one before and got so distracted by trying to focus camera and then my sound was off! I nearly had my head stuck in my laptop to hear my answers to the questions.

    I know having to travel to Dublin can be a pain for some, but I would take it any day over a video interview! 😂

    Yes. Same here. Did one before and was traumatised after it lol


  • #14
    Noseyaf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭Noseyaf


    Vologda69 wrote: »
    Yes. Same here. Did one before and was traumatised after it lol


    Same did one and stared at two ppls shoulders for forty mins


  • #15
    TheJet
    Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭TheJet


    I’m going to give this a go. Didn’t make it to stage 2 in the previous nationwide comp so hopefully will fair better this time.


  • #16
    searlasod89
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭searlasod89


    I'm currently working for NICS but think I'm going to give this one a go. Noticed in the booklet it said that candidates should be aware that not all locations will have roles - I was considering applying for Meath or Louth but wondering if it would be better for me to apply somewhere like Galway or somewhere else?


  • #17
    marmieB
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭marmieB


    searlasod89 wrote: »
    I'm currently working for NICS but think I'm going to give this one a go. Noticed in the booklet it said that candidates should be aware that not all locations will have roles - I was considering applying for Meath or Louth but wondering if it would be better for me to apply somewhere like Galway or somewhere else?

    I posted on the EO 2016 thread just now asking how far they recruited from the Galway panel. I was on the list for Galway but my second choice county came up and I took that. Will probably reapply this campaign just to get back to Galway.


  • #18
    Rikand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    How do they feel about people going for EO when they are waiting to start as a CO ?

    Does it make any difference to anyone or is it frowned upon ? :)


  • #19
    TheJet
    Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭TheJet


    searlasod89 wrote: »
    I'm currently working for NICS but think I'm going to give this one a go. Noticed in the booklet it said that candidates should be aware that not all locations will have roles - I was considering applying for Meath or Louth but wondering if it would be better for me to apply somewhere like Galway or somewhere else?

    I selected Cork as my preferred job location in the last EO comp. Towards the end of that campaign I rang public jobs and was surprised to be told me that they called very little to the next stage of the selection process in Cork. I’ve not applied yet for this competition but I wonder do you get to select two location preferences?


  • #20
    lisabiscuit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭lisabiscuit


    Yes you can choose two locations for this one also. :)


  • #21
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Rikand wrote: »
    How do they feel about people going for EO when they are waiting to start as a CO ?

    Does it make any difference to anyone or is it frowned upon ? :)

    Makes no difference


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  • #22
    Crunchymomma
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Crunchymomma


    Rikand wrote: »
    How do they feel about people going for EO when they are waiting to start as a CO ?

    Does it make any difference to anyone or is it frowned upon ? :)


    Makes no difference, I applied for EO 2016 while on co panel list. Took co when it came up and got EO right months later.


  • #23
    336699
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭336699


    Rikand wrote: »
    How do they feel about people going for EO when they are waiting to start as a CO ?

    Does it make any difference to anyone or is it frowned upon ? :)

    It doesn’t matter as they are separate competitions, you can apply for as many as you like.

    I was going to type that Crunchymomma will reply to you but she beat me to it.

    Best of luck with this campaign if you do apply and the CO campaign.


  • #24
    fergald
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭fergald


    Hi,

    My sister was going to apply but was unsure if she met the requirements. She had a diploma in computer science from carlow 3 years full time, it was Ncea, does anyone know or understand what fetac level this would be. She has tons of management experience etc etc etc.

    Any help
    Thanks Fergald


  • #25
    Mc Love
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    think that might be a level 6


  • #26
    livetelevision
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭livetelevision


    what kind of work do EOs do outside of Dublin if all the main departments are there?


  • #27
    fergald
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭fergald


    Not all the main departments are in Dublin. Huge amounts of other lines of business outside Dublin.


  • #28
    livetelevision
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭livetelevision


    does the recuitment drive include posts in local councils?


  • #29
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    livetelevision wrote: »
    does the recuitment drive include posts in local councils?

    No Civil Service only


  • #30
    livetelevision
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭livetelevision


    fergald wrote: »
    Not all the main departments are in Dublin. Huge amounts of other lines of business outside Dublin.

    Is there anywhere that gives a comprehensive list of departments and agencies? Knowing this will guide my choice for what counties i choose in my application. The roles could presumably be very different depending on the choices made.


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  • #31
    fergald
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭fergald


    You would have to check what departments are based where. The thing is you never know what area you get posted too anyway. You are on a panel and if a position arises you get it.


  • #32
    beardo81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭beardo81


    How quickly can you work up the pay scale in a job like this?

    Starting salary isn't great but would be a comfortable job I would imagine?


  • #33
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    beardo81 wrote: »
    How quickly can you work up the pay scale in a job like this?

    Starting salary isn't great but would be a comfortable job I would imagine?

    Yearly increments based on receiving satisfactory rating in performance rating


  • #34
    tringle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭tringle


    fergald wrote: »
    Hi,

    My sister was going to apply but was unsure if she met the requirements. She had a diploma in computer science from carlow 3 years full time, it was Ncea, does anyone know or understand what fetac level this would be. She has tons of management experience etc etc etc.

    Any help
    Thanks Fergald

    3 years would normally be a level 7. She could look up the course prospectus now and see what it is, or just contact the college. Or see if the QQI website had any info.


  • #35
    336699
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭336699


    fergald wrote: »
    Hi,

    My sister was going to apply but was unsure if she met the requirements. She had a diploma in computer science from carlow 3 years full time, it was Ncea, does anyone know or understand what fetac level this would be. She has tons of management experience etc etc etc.

    Any help
    Thanks Fergald

    Would her Leaving Cert results not meet the requirements? You don’t a 3rd level education to apply for this.


  • #36
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    livetelevision wrote: »
    Is there anywhere that gives a comprehensive list of departments and agencies? Knowing this will guide my choice for what counties i choose in my application. The roles could presumably be very different depending on the choices made.
    Google is your friend


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  • #37
    livetelevision
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭livetelevision


    Tristan Obnoxious Leakage wrote: »
    Google is your friend

    What was the point of this post exactly? There is nowhere to my knowledge that lists government departments and agencies according to geographical location. It was not beyond the realms of possibility that someone else was privy to such information.


  • #38
    November Golf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭November Golf


    livetelevision wrote: »
    Tristan Obnoxious Leakage wrote: »
    Google is your friend

    What was the point of this post exactly? There is nowhere to my knowledge that lists government departments and agencies according to geographical location. It was not beyond the realms of possibility that someone else was privy to such information.

    You can get the map on the dper hr website under mobility. If you had googled it, you might have found it.

    P.S: I took the liberty to google it for you.

    https://dper.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=83eb12efc9c7478a982d39a89f759663


  • #39
    November Golf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭November Golf


    Mike Foxtrot wrote: »
    livetelevision wrote: »
    Tristan Obnoxious Leakage wrote: »
    Google is your friend

    What was the point of this post exactly? There is nowhere to my knowledge that lists government departments and agencies according to geographical location. It was not beyond the realms of possibility that someone else was privy to such information.

    You can get the map on the dper hr website under mobility. If you had googled it, you might have found it.

    P.S: I took the liberty to google it for you.

    https://dper.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=83eb12efc9c7478a982d39a89f759663

    You can also get a list of organisations and agencies by zone at https://hr.per.gov.ie/civil-service-mobility/

    Last thing the civil service needs is junior managers that can't or won't do basic research. Tristan Obnoxious Leakage wasn't joking, Google is your friend.


  • #40
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Mike Foxtrot wrote: »
    You can also get a list of organisations and agencies by zone at https://hr.per.gov.ie/civil-service-mobility/

    Last thing the civil service needs is junior managers that can't or won't do basic research. tatranska wasn't joking, Google is your friend.

    Agreed, a big part of my current role is detective work. You won't get far without some initiative. It's s decision making role.


  • #41
    fergald
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭fergald


    I think the requirement is to have 5 honors in 5 higher level subjects. She have 4 honors in honors subjects and a pass in 1 honor subject.

    Found this on wikipedia so should be ok.

    The National Diploma has been replaced by the Ordinary Bachelor's Degree under the National Framework of Qualifications. This was decided by the National Qualifications Authority of Ireland recently. The National Diploma has not been awarded since June 2006, however holders of a National Diploma can claim equivalence to the newer award, the Ordinary Bachelor's Degree.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Diploma_(Ireland)


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  • #42
    myate
    Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    This is correct...old NCEA Diploma, usually a one year follow on from a national certificate, is now classed as an ordinary bachelors degree - it's what I have also. Classified as Level 7, so you can apply for the EO panel with it.


    fergald wrote: »
    I think the requirement is to have 5 honors in 5 higher level subjects. She have 4 honors in honors subjects and a pass in 1 honor subject.

    Found this on wikipedia so should be ok.

    The National Diploma has been replaced by the Ordinary Bachelor's Degree under the National Framework of Qualifications. This was decided by the National Qualifications Authority of Ireland recently. The National Diploma has not been awarded since June 2006, however holders of a National Diploma can claim equivalence to the newer award, the Ordinary Bachelor's Degree.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Diploma_(Ireland)


  • #43
    fergald
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭fergald


    perfect myate thank you.


  • #44
    lateron
    Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭lateron


    Has anyone done the online test yet. Do you know if they are using Cut-e or SHL tests?


  • #45
    finla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭finla


    Just wondering if anyone here would know if a level 5 cert would be enough to apply for this comp? Thanks.


  • #46
    eroc79
    Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭eroc79


    lateron wrote: »
    Has anyone done the online test yet. Do you know if they are using Cut-e or SHL tests?
    Test part isn't out yet. It's just filling out previous work experience at the mo


  • #47
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    finla wrote: »
    Just wondering if anyone here would know if a level 5 cert would be enough to apply for this comp? Thanks.

    You can apply with a leaving cert. Read the application form!


  • #48
    finla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭finla


    Tristan Obnoxious Leakage wrote: »
    You can apply with a leaving cert. Read the application form!

    I'm aware of that, what if you don't have the leaving cert?


  • #49
    lateron
    Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭lateron


    eroc79 wrote: »
    Test part isn't out yet. It's just filling out previous work experience at the mo

    Thanks. Good luck with it


  • #50
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    finla wrote: »
    I'm aware of that, what if you don't have the leaving cert?

    Contact PAS


  • #51
    irish_goat
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Tristan Obnoxious Leakage wrote: »
    Contact PAS

    Regarding this, I contacted PAS as I have A-Levels and GCSEs. I got a helpful response back...
    Please note that, given the volume of applications, PAS is not in a position to consider or offer advice on the qualifications/eligibility of individuals unless they come under consideration. The onus is on the candidate to ensure they fulfil the eligibility requirements set out in the information booklet.

    Qualifications/eligibility may not be confirmed until the final stage of the process, therefore, those candidates who do not possess the essential requirements, on the date specified in the booklet, and proceed with their application are putting themselves to unnecessary effort/expense and will not be offered a position from this competition.

    PAS reserves the right to deem an applicant ineligible at any stage if it is apparent that the candidate does not hold the required eligibility/qualifications e.g. from the submitted application form. Candidates who come under consideration following the final selection stage will be required to provide documentary evidence of their eligibility, including qualifications.

    Candidates who are unable to show that they hold the required qualifications may be withdrawn from the competition at any stage. An invitation to tests, interview or any element of the selection process is not acceptance of eligibility.

    There's no mention of what PAS consider to be equivalent so I've no idea if my ALevels and GCSEs suffice. I have 2 years of an undergrad finished so I think that covers but it's not clear either.


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