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22 syrian families arrive in ireland, then what?

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  • #542
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    Kiith wrote: »
    Seeing people use James Connolly or any other 1916 rising member to somehow justify whatever random horrible ****e they believe is beyond pathetic.

    Not as pathetic as your uninformed commentary.

    I asked him twice to elaborate on his statement...

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=109002775&postcount=515


    Anyway, have a little bit of Tom Clarke, signatory of the 1916 Proclamation, as referenced by Diarmuid Ferriter in his review of Gerard MacTasney's 'Life, Liberty, Revolution'
    'THERE ARE ANY AMOUNT OF N.IGGERS LIVING HEREABOUTS AND WE IRISH AS A RULE DON'T CARE FOR COMING TOO MUCH INTO CONTACT WITH THOSE ABSURD FOLKS'

    - Irish Times Weekend supplement 16 March 2013

    From a letter written when Clarke was living in America, 1900.

    .


  • #543
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    DS86DS wrote: »
    He's attacking Irish Nationalism and the idea of putting the people of Ireland first just as the Civil War generation who founded this state intended

    Hostile to Irish Nationalism and pro-open borders nonsense.

    no he's not. He's attacking racism and bigotry. that is in turn true nationalism and putting irish and all people first. racism is not nationalism and your brand of nationalism does not put irish people or anyone first. and again, there are no pro-open borders people in this thread.
    DS86DS wrote: »
    It seems that "racist' is the new code word for been pro-Irish people in the state of Ireland.

    And what kind of nonsense, rewriting of history is that. Irish Nationalism was solely based on the will of the Irish people to govern themselves and for Ireland to belong to the Irish people. It is why it is thanks to Irish Nationalism that we had the Land Commission which gave small time Irish farmers the land that British landlords living in London had decided somewhere down the line was there's for turning a profit on

    We have never had some tepid Civic Nationalism based on a mere idea. The foundation of the Irish state and Irish Nationalism was first and foremost about putting the Irish people in charge of their destiny and the destiny of Ireland.

    No doubt this basic historical fact is uncomfortable to Liberals and pro-EU sorts with their hostile hatred for the idea of Irish Nationalism and the idea of the Irish people been an ethnicity with the ancient right to inhabit and control the destiny of Ireland.

    Open borders and EU membership are the banes of 21st century Ireland. It's high time that we take our country back, particularly with the 100th anniversary of Irish Independence approaching.

    racist is not the code word for supposibly being "pro-irish people in the state of ireland" . irish nationalism remains to be based on the will of the irish people to govern themselves and to be in charge of our own destiny. for ireland to belong to the irish people. it is not based on being bigoted, racist or discriminatory to other people however and that brand of nationalism is constantly rejected by the majority quite rightly. so there is no re-writing of history in relation to what nationalism is about, just people telling the actual truth of what nationalism really is
    there are no open borders in ireland. there is very little support for open borders in ireland. we do not have any policies that allow for or relate to open borders in ireland. the EU while it has many faults, has been good for ireland. without it ireland would still be back in the 1950s in terms of infrastructure and more. we have our country, nobody has taken it. there is nobody for us to take it back from. we govern ourselves, and the politicians and those who elect them are responsible for the issues. the brand of nationalism you subscribe to is not welcome in ireland.
    DS86DS wrote: »
    You underestimate the Irish people. There is a large silent majority who are afraid to voice their opinions due to obnoxious leftist thugs who will shout them down the second they dare raise an opinion that leftists disagree with.

    And as for James Connolly. Since when did his vision of Ireland come to fruition? The Irish people choose Nationalism over his brand of Socialism and thankfully so.

    James Connolly would not get elected today anymore than he would at any other time in the State's history. The Irish are a fundamentally conservative lot. Although I still respect the man and he was a nationalist in his own right and fought for Ireland, unlike our leaders today.

    We are only experiencing such rapid and destructive changes due to a few traitors who hold Ireland in contempt. The people who run the media and universities with an agenda, and then brainwash the gullible with their Cultural Marxist indoctrination.

    It's obvious that many gullible people here have fallen for it. But this site is a liberal anomaly in an otherwise conservative society.

    And anybody who tries to claim that the EU doesn't impact on Irish sovereignty is not only lying, but doing a terrible job of it


    there is supposibly a "silent majority" yet your brand of nationalism continues to be rejected large scale. how is that possible. it's not the fault of the media, the liberals, the leftists or the universities or anyone else that the actual majority have no time for your brand of nationalism or conservatism.
    road_high wrote: »
    What can we do? We can’t export them. Cut welfare for them all which I’m all in favor of, rewarding workers. Unfortunately Leo and co are not too keen on that

    because they realise it's ultimately not a workible idea and that it won't bring the outcomes people would hope for.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #544
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Then we've got a problem: Ireland's average IQ is 92.

    https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html

    OR, if you had read the link...
    One implication, if this turns out to be true, is that immigration could pose a serious threat to the West, especially those countries and regions that are closest to the breaking point. The sad part is that since everything is going so well at 98 they may dismiss this risk. This is especially true for those countries and states who are right at 98 and whose immigrants have the lowest IQs, for instance France or Texas. As for California that state has now clearly passed the breaking point, it will be interesting to see if they will break the pattern. I suspect they won’t, given that the few countries that do fairly well below 98 (Ireland, Slovenia, Uruguay etc) are all small and lacking in diversity, which is the opposite of California.

    :D


  • #545
    TeaBagMania
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭TeaBagMania


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    Originally Posted by Billy86 View Post
    Then we've got a problem: Ireland's average IQ is 92.

    https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html


    :D

    LOL i about fell off my chair laughing, Italy ranked number 5 with a 102 IQ

    that chart just lost all credibility


  • #546
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,947 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Ah yes, Ireland's mysterious "silent majority" that are so silent they forget to ever vote. Identity Ireland got something like 1% last election, get out of that little fantasy land you've built inside your head. It's leading you to all kinds of stupidity like accidentally calling for ireland to take more migrants from Kazakhstan due to their higher IQs.

    Not a silent majority but 23% voted for casey when he asked a few questions about travelers n the irish welfare state.
    In the last census iirc 17% of population was foreign but 33% of the homeless list are foreign. Who's enriching who?


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  • #547
    123balltv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    If I can't get into Australia with little money or good qualifications
    give the economic migrants the boot


  • #548
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    Not as pathetic as your uninformed commentary.

    I asked him twice to elaborate on his statement...

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=109002775&postcount=515


    Anyway, have a little bit of Tom Clarke, signatory of the 1916 Proclamation, as referenced by Diarmuid Ferriter in his review of Gerard MacTasney's 'Life, Liberty, Revolution'



    - Irish Times Weekend supplement 16 March 2013

    From a letter written when Clarke was living in America, 1900.

    .

    I know you did, while plenty of our revolutionaries may have held racist views. There was no tenet of our state's foundation that relied upon racism. You're merely trying to find one that does justify it. It's a bit telling that you really want to legitimise racism as core to Irish nationalism, do you think racism is good?


  • #549
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,947 ✭✭✭enricoh


    123balltv wrote: »
    If I can't get into Australia with little money or good qualifications
    give the economic migrants the boot

    The uk is bringing in that migrants must earn the average wage to live there, i wonder where the spongers will go instead?!! -

    A consultation on a minimum salary requirement of £30,000 for skilled migrants seeking five-year visas


  • #550
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    batgoat wrote: »
    I know you did, while plenty of our revolutionaries may have held racist views. There was no tenet of our state's foundation that relied upon racism.

    You see, now you're moving the goalposts. You originally said -
    Irish nationalism was not based upon racism.

    But now you want to squirm and change it to -
    no tenet of our state's foundation... relied upon racism

    Those are two quite distinct things, not least given that Irish nationalism long pre-dates the foundation of our state.


    To take your original statement, which is what I asked you to clarify -

    ... you're now telling me that 'plenty' of our revolutionaries 'may have' held racist views.

    What's your evidence for that, and how does it reconcile with your original statement ?

    In other words, considering the sacrifices they made, do you think the attitudes you attribute to them would have been merely incidental to how they would have wished the republic to develop ?


  • #551
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    You see, now you're moving the goalposts. You originally said -



    But now you want to squirm and change it to -



    Those are two quite distinct things, not least given that Irish nationalism long pre-dates the foundation of our state.


    To take your original statement, which is what I asked you to clarify -

    ... you're now telling me that 'plenty' of our revolutionaries 'may have' held racist views.

    What's your evidence for that, and how does it reconcile with your original statement ?

    And you still haven't provided a basis that it actually held a role in Irish nationalism or defined an aspect of Irish nationalism. Would you like us to be a bit more racist or something? Cause you seem to have a longing.


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  • #552
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    batgoat wrote: »
    And you still haven't provided a basis that it actually held a role in Irish nationalism or defined an aspect of Irish nationalism. Would you like us to be a bit more racist or something? Cause you seem to have a longing.

    I didn't make a claim that it 'actually held a role in Irish nationalism or defined an aspect of Irish nationalism'.

    YOU made the claim that it did not.

    I asked you to explain that.

    When pressed, you now make the claim that some of our revolutionaries may have held racist views.

    These seem to be interesting things to me, in need of clarification.

    I have a longing for you to answer the questions I asked you. That is all.


  • #553
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Uboat wrote: »
    Send them back. The war is almost over in Syria.

    Why dont you goto Syria if you feel its perfectly safe.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #554
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    OR, if you had read the link...



    :D

    As are many of the countries below 97 who are not doing well.

    Added to that, numerous countries do not make the top 20s listed as the supposed criteria, despite having an average above 97: Hungary, Taiwan, Ukraine, Russia, Malta, Andorra, Mongolia.

    Added to that, he appears to have completely left several countries off of these lists:
    For GDP - UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi, Bahrain, Oman.
    For corruption - UAE
    For murder rate - Burkina Faso, Kuwait, Qatar

    Added to that, he lists homicide rate as a marker and then turns around to shift to goalposts claiming murder rate does not matter in dictatorships. If I did not know any better I would think this might be why he seems to have completely forgotten to list democratic Burkina Faso (avg IQ of 168) for otherwise unknown reasons.

    It seems your blogger may need to rethink his methodology, because as is it is so flawed as to almost come over as deceptively having an agenda behind it.


  • #555
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    enricoh wrote: »
    Not a silent majority but 23% voted for casey when he asked a few questions about travelers n the irish welfare state.
    In the last census iirc 17% of population was foreign but 33% of the homeless list are foreign. Who's enriching who?
    Im not sure what the traveling community have to do with Syrian migrants?


  • #556
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,560 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Why dont you goto Syria if you feel its perfectly safe.

    Because I doubt the poster is Syrian?


  • #557
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    What you read...
    Billy86 wrote: »
    claiming murder rate does not matter in dictatorships.

    What was actually written...
    However, if we are looking for a point at which modern civilization begins to crumble, then we shouldn’t look at dictatorships at all. They can keep the murder rate low with social control and oppression, but at in doing so they disqualify themselves as candidates for civilized societies.

    Get a grown-up to read it to you.


  • #558
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    end of the road wrote: »
    no he's not. He's attacking racism and bigotry. that is in turn true nationalism and putting irish and all people first. racism is not nationalism and your brand of nationalism does not put irish people or anyone first. and again, there are no pro-open borders people in this thread.



    racist is not the code word for supposibly being "pro-irish people in the state of ireland" . irish nationalism remains to be based on the will of the irish people to govern themselves and to be in charge of our own destiny. for ireland to belong to the irish people. it is not based on being bigoted, racist or discriminatory to other people however and that brand of nationalism is constantly rejected by the majority quite rightly. so there is no re-writing of history in relation to what nationalism is about, just people telling the actual truth of what nationalism really is
    there are no open borders in ireland. there is very little support for open borders in ireland. we do not have any policies that allow for or relate to open borders in ireland. the EU while it has many faults, has been good for ireland. without it ireland would still be back in the 1950s in terms of infrastructure and more. we have our country, nobody has taken it. there is nobody for us to take it back from. we govern ourselves, and the politicians and those who elect them are responsible for the issues. the brand of nationalism you subscribe to is not welcome in ireland.




    there is supposibly a "silent majority" yet your brand of nationalism continues to be rejected large scale. how is that possible. it's not the fault of the media, the liberals, the leftists or the universities or anyone else that the actual majority have no time for your brand of nationalism or conservatism.



    because they realise it's ultimately not a workible idea and that it won't bring the outcomes people would hope for.

    A load of rambling nonsense. You are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole with all of these attempts to pull Irish Nationalism into the Left Wing and One world open borders camp. It's extremely disingenuous to try and claim that the modern state of Ireland was not founded as a home for the Irish people and a home means a home, not to be eventually become a minority in our own land.

    If what you are trying to get at is true, then why didn't the Irish State open its doors to unlimited immigration back in 1922? Why is it that Ireland remained an ethnically and culturally homogeneous society until the turn of the millennium?

    Where is it said in the 1916 Proclamation that we should be an uber-tolerance multiculturalism society with anybody who feels like it welcome into the Irish State?

    And have you actually asked many Irish people what they think, have you researched and actually listen to people with a different view?

    Or maybe you just mop up whatever you hear in the media and then return here to the Liberal echo chamber.....then deem anything not approved by the former and the latter to be an abomination. It certainly seems that many are too arrogant to step outside of their own bubble for once.


  • #559
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    What you read...
    Billy86 wrote: »
    claiming murder rate does not matter in dictatorships.

    What was actually written...
    However, if we are looking for a point at which modern civilization begins to crumble, then we shouldn’t look at dictatorships at all. They can keep the murder rate low with social control and oppression, but at in doing so they disqualify themselves as candidates for civilized societies.

    Get a grown-up to read it to you.
    Thanks for backing up my point,they used a criteria and then decided to shift it when it wasn't convenient. And then just left out Burkina Faso for no reason whatsoever. Which, along with the rest of the blogs various inconsistencies, I can't help but notice you don't seem able to defend.


  • #560
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Thanks for backing up my point,they used a criterion and then decided to shift it when it wasn't convenient. And then just left out Burkina Faso for no reason whatsoever. Which, along with the rest of the blogs various inconsistencies, I can't help but notice you don't seem able to defend.

    I didn't write the blog, and people can read it for themselves.

    How you revealing yourself to be a disingenuous poster backs up your point, I have no idea.


  • #561
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    Billy86 wrote: »
    Thanks for backing up my point,they used a criterion and then decided to shift it when it wasn't convenient. And then just left out Burkina Faso for no reason whatsoever. Which, along with the rest of the blogs various inconsistencies, I can't help but notice you don't seem able to defend.

    I didn't write the blog, and people can read it for themselves.

    How you revealing yourself to be a disingenuous poster backs up your point, I have no idea.
    No, I said the article claims murder rates in dictatorships do not matter for their analysis.... You showed the text to back this up. Again, thanks for that.

    I also showed your link to be apparently very disingenuous/inconsistent and rather than try to claim it is in any way credible, you're instead throwing a tantrum and arguing with my phones autocorrect feature. It's kind of telling.

    Let's start smal before moving on to all of the blogs other flaws... if you can't tell me why they left off Burkina Faso can you then just be honest and tell us why you're hiding behind something you now know to be false?


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  • #562
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    DS86DS wrote: »
    A load of rambling nonsense. You are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole with all of these attempts to pull Irish Nationalism into the Left Wing and One world open borders camp. It's extremely disingenuous to try and claim that the modern state of Ireland was not founded as a home for the Irish people and a home means a home, not to be eventually become a minority in our own land.

    If what you are trying to get at is true, then why didn't the Irish State open its doors to unlimited immigration back in 1922? Why is it that Ireland remained an ethnically and culturally homogeneous society until the turn of the millennium?

    Where is it said in the 1916 Proclamation that we should be an uber-tolerance multiculturalism society with anybody who feels like it welcome into the Irish State?

    And have you actually asked many Irish people what they think, have you researched and actually listen to people with a different view?

    Or maybe you just mop up whatever you hear in the media and then return here to the Liberal echo chamber.....then deem anything not approved by the former and the latter to be an abomination. It certainly seems that many are too arrogant to step outside of their own bubble for once.


    we will never become a minority in our country. it's not going to happen. ever. as for this left wing one world open borders camp, such a camp likely only has a few members as i'd say most people who are left wing don't agree with or want open borders. and again there is no unlimited immigration to ireland. there never has been and it's unlikely quite rightly that there ever will be. i don't need to ask irish people what they think, the majority show what they think at the ballot box and the minority show what they think online. so i know the majority don't believe there is unlimited immigration to ireland or that we have open borders. i know a minority think otherwise however because they are online trying to convince us otherwise.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #563
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Then we've got a problem: Ireland's average IQ is 92.

    https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html

    Maybe explains why we kept voting in Fianna Fail so many times....





    :D


  • #564
    Mr. teddywinkles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    end of the road wrote: »
    we will never become a minority in our country. it's not going to happen. ever. as for this left wing one world open borders camp, such a camp likely only has a few members as i'd say most people who are left wing don't agree with or want open borders. and again there is no unlimited immigration to ireland. there never has been and it's unlikely quite rightly that there ever will be. i don't need to ask irish people what they think, the majority show what they think at the ballot box and the minority show what they think online. so i know the majority don't believe there is unlimited immigration to ireland or that we have open borders. i know a minority think otherwise however because they are online trying to convince us otherwise.

    You mustn't look around you much when your out do you?


  • #565
    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭tretorn


    When you wueue in a shop in Bray and you are the only non national there you know there is a problem.
    You go into Dublin city centre and half the people on the bus are non national, the whole city is full of foreigners so much so that you leave early and dont go back.
    You drive past schools in West Dublin and the entire primary school appears to be black. There is a big secondary school near Blanchardstown shopping centre and hardly any white teens at school closing time either.
    We have no idea of the numbers coming in except what we see ourselves. The official figure is 12 per cent of the population is non national but they make up 33 per cent of the homeless numbers, 12 percent is probably the official number, like the travellers the true number is multiples of that.
    I wont get into a taxi with a non national but all taxis late at night in Dublin are being driven by non nationals, where are Irish taxi drivers gone.


  • #566
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    tretorn wrote: »
    When you wueue in a shop in Bray and you are the only non national there you know there is a problem.
    You go into Dublin city centre and half the people on the bus are non national, the whole city is full of foreigners so much so that you leave early and dont go back.
    You drive past schools in West Dublin and the entire primary school appears to be black. There is a big secondary school near Blanchardstown shopping centre and hardly any white teens at school closing time either.
    We have no idea of the numbers coming in except what we see ourselves. The official figure is 12 per cent of the population is non national but they make up 33 per cent of the homeless numbers, 12 percent is probably the official number, like the travellers the true number is multiples of that.
    I wont get into a taxi with a non national but all taxis late at night in Dublin are being driven by non nationals, where are Irish taxi drivers gone.


    Would you consider yourself racist at all?


  • #567
    Robocop Corcoran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Robocop Corcoran


    tretorn wrote: »
    When you wueue in a shop in Bray and you are the only non national there you know there is a problem.
    You go into Dublin city centre and half the people on the bus are non national, the whole city is full of foreigners so much so that you leave early and dont go back.
    You drive past schools in West Dublin and the entire primary school appears to be black. There is a big secondary school near Blanchardstown shopping centre and hardly any white teens at school closing time either.
    We have no idea of the numbers coming in except what we see ourselves. The official figure is 12 per cent of the population is non national but they make up 33 per cent of the homeless numbers, 12 percent is probably the official number, like the travellers the true number is multiples of that.
    I wont get into a taxi with a non national but all taxis late at night in Dublin are being driven by non nationals, where are Irish taxi drivers gone.

    A lot of them are giving it up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNEcxCIm9_k


  • #568
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,965 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Would you consider yourself racist at all?

    Ah the usual dismissive tactic of the liberals

    It's not "racist" to point out things you see around you.


  • #569
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Ah the usual dismissive tactic of the liberals

    It's not "racist" to point out things you see around you.


    Indeed it isn't. But if all you can see around you is foreigners and it makes you uncomfortable to be around them, or to see them in education and you refuse to use their services then I would consider that racist.


    But you keep playing your victim card. The white man is the true victim of the 21st century right? :rolleyes:


  • #570
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Ah the usual dismissive tactic of the liberals

    It's not "racist" to point out things you see around you.

    It is point blank racist to say you wouldn't get a taxi solely on the basis of the drivers ethnicity. Pretending that is not is very telling.


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  • #571
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,965 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Indeed it isn't. But if all you can see around you is foreigners and it makes you uncomfortable to be around them, or to see them in education and you refuse to use their services then I would consider that racist.


    But you keep playing your victim card. The white man is the true victim of the 21st century right? :rolleyes:

    You as usual have that completely the wrong way around.

    This ridiculous self-loathing, white guilt complex and American buzzwords and terminology that sees racism and discrimination everywhere is irrelevant to Ireland. Despite looking similar on the surface, we're a completely different country and culture with a very different history.

    But by all means, keep projecting your own issues and need for validation if that helps you get through the day.


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