22 syrian families arrive in ireland, then what?

end of the road · 31-12-2018 03:35PM

DS86DS wrote: »

Spot on. Denmark and Sweden were once among the safest countries in the world. Scandinavians are a High IQ people and like Germans tend to be by the book when it comes to adhering laws, particularly when it comes to stuff like crossing the roads when there are red lights on display.

Basically a hard working, highly intelligent and law abiding (perhaps excessively so at times) that made these nice societies to live in. Their Leftist political leaders have signed them up for a cultural suicide pact.

They have imported into their countries in large waves what is essentially the world's most violent and oppressive religion. There is nowhere in the world, from Hungary to India that has not witnessed and been the victim of Islamic brutality.

And the Islamic Holy Book is quite clear on these matters. You are either in the House of Islam, or you are an Infidel worthy only of death. The Quaran encourages violence and beheading of those who do not submit to Islam.

It is sad to see such an intelligent and civilised people openly transforming their countries into low-IQ, high crime, Sharia Law hellholes.

it's amazing how so many who are so against islam and muslims are such experts on it, and have read, and are such experts in, it's holy book.

tretorn wrote: »

Merkels replacement has stated there will be no more large scale refugee influx allowed into Germany.

given the only reason merkel took in refugees was to ease the burdin on other european countries, the work is sufficiently done at this stage.

tretorn wrote: »

Its too late now though, the million that Merkel let in will be six million in twenty years because Muslims like all those religions that treat women like chattels have big familys and people marry while they are too young to protest about whether they actually want to marry or not, its not as if women would ever have a realistic choice anyway,they are the property of their father and then the property of whoever the father wants to pass on his property to.

big families are had by some non-religious as well funnily enough. and there is absolutely no proof what soever that all of the refugees who have arived in german will have big families. some of them may do but even so, they will only ever mount up to a very tiny proportion of germany's population.

tretorn wrote: »

Germany is a very bureaucratic country country and they will know which children are being born and where they goto school. If Germany insists that Muslim children attend mixed schools like all other German children then they may avoid Brussels, Dutch and Parisian ghettoes.

it was the governments housing refugees together that caused the ghettoes. insisting muslim children attend mixed schools won't eradicate that issue. not sticking all of them together in the first place would have dealt with the issue.

tretorn wrote: »

We cant even make traveller children attend school or get travellers to obey any laws

actually, we can. we just refuse to fund the resources we have to do such in a sufficient manner so that they can do it.

end of the road · 31-12-2018 03:35PM

tretorn wrote: »

so we will have no success integrating Muslims, they will come here and cherry pick the part of Irish society that they like and then live within their own communities and abide by Sharia law.

we have muslims in ireland. have had for a long time. yet i have saw no evidence what soever of the existence of sharia law in ireland. our laws effectively make it illegal anyway thankfully.

tretorn wrote: »

Even Hilary Clinton has seen the dangers of mass immigration and warned if Europe doesnt get a grip with it there will be mass movement of voters to far right parties.

there won't be mass movement to far right parties, but there will be some movement. however as we know, such parties will only focus on immigration and nothing else. if people are thick enough to move to far right parties then i guess that is what they deserve.

tretorn wrote: »

Those who influence decisions regarding immigration want truckloads of badly educated migrants because they will do dirty work for very little money and in many cases this work will be done in the black economy while the refugee lives off benefits.

living off benefits while working is not unique to refugees as we know. yes absolutely businesses want immigrants so that they can have cheaper labour and most people are against such exploitation, however at the end of the day it is business and getting labour as cheaply as possible is 1 aspect of both business and capitalism.

tretorn wrote: »

The wealthy then get richer and richer and they live in nice parts of the country and not beside ghettoes of anti social housing where its impossible for decent people to rear their families, in some areas people cant let their children out to play at all.

plenty of decent people are able to bring up their children in social housing, have done so and do so. yes there are problems with anti-social behaviour in areas and that absolutely needs to be addressed. however for the most part social housing aren't ghettoes and most people who live in such housing are decent.
as for the wealthy getting richer, that would continue whoever would be in government. some far right party would do absolutely nothing about it either.

tretorn wrote: »

Our politicans should go and visit the Muslim ghettoes in Brussels and Paris and some parts of the Netherlands, it might wake them up.

they have woken up already. that is why they have the policy on refugees and immigration they do, because it's what the majority are happy with.

BrokenArrows · 31-12-2018 03:41PM

end of the road wrote: »

there are actual reasons to refuse citizenship, this isn't one of them.

Actually i believe it is.
Its a very simple test if they can integrate with the society that they want to become citizens of.

If they are unable to set aside whatever their beliefs are for a brief moment and follow the rules for the sake of getting citizenship( ie. Simply shake hands) then you can be certain they will disregard any of the countries laws and prioritize their beliefs which is a very bad thing.

PuppyMcPupFace · 31-12-2018 03:46PM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

Actually i believe it is.
Its a very simple test if they can integrate with the society that they want to become citizens of.

If they are unable to set aside whatever their beliefs are for a brief moment and follow the rules for the sake of getting citizenship( ie. Simply shake hands) then you can be certain they will disregard any of the countries laws and prioritize their beliefs which is a very bad thing.

My husband's workplace was visited by a very venerable world leader. One of the greeting committee refused to shake her hand.

A colleague pointed out how disrespectful that was. Met with "I choose not to shake hands with females". The reply was "How would you feel if she said I don't shake hands with Muslims?"

The answer is telling "she has no right to say that".

end of the road · 31-12-2018 04:14PM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

Actually i believe it is.
Its a very simple test if they can integrate with the society that they want to become citizens of.

it's actually not though. people will refuse to shake hands with someone for many different reasons. how do we prove that the person refusing to shake hands is doing so because someone is the opposite sex for example, rather then them simply meeting before and not liking each other.

BrokenArrows wrote: »

If they are unable to set aside whatever their beliefs are for a brief moment and follow the rules for the sake of getting citizenship( ie. Simply shake hands) then you can be certain they will disregard any of the countries laws and prioritize their beliefs which is a very bad thing.

actually, you can't be certain of it at all. someone may refuse to shake hands with someone for whatever reason, but would be whole heartedly against the committal of the majority or all of the acts that would be against the law in their host country.

Captain Obvious · 31-12-2018 04:17PM

end of the road wrote: »

it's actually not though. people will refuse to shake hands with someone for many different reasons. how do we prove that the person refusing to shake hands is doing so because someone is the opposite sex for example, rather then them simply meeting before and not liking each other.

What are you talking about? It's a foolproof test for extremist terrorists. Just offer to shake their hand and if they don't then point at them and scream "ISIS".

Peter Flynt · 31-12-2018 04:18PM

Immigrants in
Racist boards.ie posters OUT.
Take the FG supporters with you.

enricoh · 31-12-2018 04:24PM

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Immigrants in
Racist boards.ie posters OUT.
Take the FG supporters with you.

Wonderful contribution peter, thanks a mill

PuppyMcPupFace · 31-12-2018 04:24PM

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Immigrants in
Racist boards.ie posters OUT.
Take the FG supporters with you.

Yeah dude. That simple eh ?

batgoat · 31-12-2018 04:27PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

What are you talking about? It's a foolproof test for extremist terrorists. Just offer to shake their hand and if they don't then point at them and scream "ISIS".

It reminds me of the anti terror training in Sacha Baron Cohen's new TV show. The amount of stupid things that people come to believe.

PuppyMcPupFace · 31-12-2018 04:32PM

batgoat wrote: »

It reminds me of the anti terror training in Sacha Baron Cohen's new TV show. The amount of stupid things that people come to believe.

No one is saying it's a way of spotting a terrorist.

It is however a way of showing you've no intention of leaving your backward customs behind.

end of the road · 31-12-2018 04:32PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

What are you talking about? It's a foolproof test for extremist terrorists. Just offer to shake their hand and if they don't then point at them and scream "ISIS".

you are actually right. i don't know what i was thinking of. must be the old christmas drinking.

on a serious note, the anti-islam types on here actually seem to believe this would be a way of detecting isis members.

end of the road · 31-12-2018 04:36PM

PuppyMcPupFace wrote: »

No one is saying it's a way of spotting a terrorist.

It is however a way of showing you've no intention of leaving your backward customs behind.

how is it. as i said above, the person refusing to shake the hand may have met the person who's hand they are expected to shake before, and may just not like them. nothing to do with them being the opposite sex. perhapse they don't like shaking hands with anyone at any time. they may even have a varient of OCD by where they have issues touching strangers. all sorts of possibilities that ultimately make shaking hands as a test for anything unviable and unworkable and unreliable.

QuintusFabius · 31-12-2018 04:38PM

baldbear wrote: »

2 families coming to my town in Longford. Locals did a collection for them because they wanted to make them feel welcome.

I prefer to see them in my town that all the lazy dole heads.

Hope you don't have any young daughters

McGiver · 31-12-2018 04:40PM

PuppyMcPupFace wrote: »

No one is saying it's a way of spotting a terrorist.

It is however a way of showing you've no intention of leaving your backward customs behind.

Orthodox Jews, of which there were plenty in pre-WW2 Europe and in many places still are even now, are doing exactly that. Stick to their, you could say "backward" customs. Back to you.

McGiver · 31-12-2018 04:42PM

QuintusFabius wrote: »

Hope you don't have any young daughters

Why so? Please explain.

Billy86 · 31-12-2018 04:47PM

DS86DS wrote: »

Spot on. Denmark and Sweden were once among the safest countries in the world.

2018 safest countries - https://amp.businessinsider.com/safest-countries-in-the-world-2018-6

Denmark - 5th safest
Sweden - 14th safest
USA - ???

It's also interesting that you want Ireland to take in more migrants from Kazhakstan, what with your preoccupation with IQ and them having a higher average IQ than Ireland.

batgoat · 31-12-2018 04:48PM

PuppyMcPupFace wrote: »

No one is saying it's a way of spotting a terrorist.

It is however a way of showing you've no intention of leaving your backward customs behind.

No, it was claimed that it was sure fire way to spot a person willing to break the country's laws. It's not. You'd also imagine by the way you're speaking that only Muslims can have backward attitudes. Mike Pence won't trust himself to be in a room on his own with a woman... Christians are perfectly capable of warped attitudes but if you're a Muslim who isn't comfortable shaking hands, for whatever reason, you're a potential suicide bomber.

jmreire · 31-12-2018 04:51PM

end of the road wrote: »

how is it. as i said above, the person refusing to shake the hand may have met the person who's hand they are expected to shake before, and may just not like them. nothing to do with them being the opposite sex. perhapse they don't like shaking hands with anyone at any time. they may even have a varient of OCD by where they have issues touching strangers. all sorts of possibilities that ultimately make shaking hands as a test for anything unviable and unworkable and unreliable.

End of the road.. just wondering if you have ever lived abroad in a Muslim Country for any length of time ? It's generally the Women who will not shake hands with you..but the same women will also refuse to shake hands with any non-related male, even fellow Muslims. But again, it's not every Muslim Woman will refuse.. general rule is, if the Woman offers you her hand, then it's Ok to shake it ( and an insult to refuse ) For a male to refuse, that's a whole different ballgame..and nothing to do with OCD, or you have BO or any of the excuses you are putting forward. If I was in a situation with a Muslim, and in his Country and he refused to shake hands with me, I would get the hell away from there as fast as I could. And putting forward an opinion on this forum or any other forum, does not make any one anti-muslim or racist.

jochenstacker · 31-12-2018 04:52PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

What are you talking about? It's a foolproof test for extremist terrorists. Just offer to shake their hand and if they don't then point at them and scream "ISIS".

It is much easier than that.

Simples!

JPCN1 · 31-12-2018 04:55PM

Billy86 wrote: »

2018 safest countries.

Denmark - 2nd safest
Sweden - 14th safest
USA - ???

It's also interesting that you want Ireland to take in more migrants from Kazhakstan, what with your preoccupation with IQ and them having a higher average IQ than Ireland.

I was in Copenhagen recently and they had 24 hour armed security around the local synagogue.

batgoat · 31-12-2018 05:12PM

JPCN1 wrote: »

I was in Copenhagen recently and they had 24 hour armed security around the local synagogue.

And in America, they had one of the worst anti-semetic attacks in their history only a few months ago. It wasn't by a Muslim. Plenty of far right anti semetic groups in Europe too btw.

QuintusFabius · 31-12-2018 05:13PM

McGiver wrote: »

Why so? Please explain.

You know exactly what I mean.

end of the road · 31-12-2018 05:17PM

QuintusFabius wrote: »

You know exactly what I mean.

indeed we do. the problem for you is that your claim could be thrown at people from all walks of life and society.

Billy86 · 31-12-2018 05:18PM

QuintusFabius wrote: »

McGiver wrote: »

Why so? Please explain.

You know exactly what I mean.

Why so reluctant to just come out and say whatever it is that you're dancing around?

DS86DS · 31-12-2018 06:07PM

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Immigrants in
Racist boards.ie posters OUT.
Take the FG supporters with you.

Such a patriotic Irishman.

Why don't you move to Saudi Arabia or Sierra Leone if they are so great and you hate Ireland so much.

batgoat · 31-12-2018 06:08PM

DS86DS wrote: »

Such a patriotic Irishman.

Why don't you move to Saudi Arabia or Sierra Leone if they are so great and you hate Ireland so much.

Because he's opposed to racism?

Captain Obvious · 31-12-2018 06:10PM

PuppyMcPupFace wrote: »

No one is saying it's a way of spotting a terrorist.

It is however a way of showing you've no intention of leaving your backward customs behind.

No it isn't.

Odhinn · 31-12-2018 06:13PM

DS86DS wrote: »

Such a patriotic Irishman.

Why don't you move to Saudi Arabia or Sierra Leone if they are so great and you hate Ireland so much.

He isn't attacking Ireland, just racists. That surely wouldn't bother you.

DS86DS · 31-12-2018 06:21PM

Odhinn wrote: »

He isn't attacking Ireland, just racists. That surely wouldn't bother you.

He's attacking Irish Nationalism and the idea of putting the people of Ireland first just as the Civil War generation who founded this state intended

Hostile to Irish Nationalism and pro-open borders nonsense.

22 syrian families arrive in ireland, then what?

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