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UFC 232 SAT. DEC. 29, JONES VS GUSTAFSSON 2

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    #62
    Zero-Cool
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    I like Megan but I'm a big Cat fan, hope she can pull off a big win here.

    Also, classy stuff out of DC.

    https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1078750174032195584?s=19


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    #63
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    I like Megan but I'm a big Cat fan, hope she can pull off a big win here.

    Also, classy stuff out of DC.

    https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1078750174032195584?s=19

    Classy how? He was basically stripped when the fight was announced. They both made weight, the fight is definetley going ahead so he is stripped.


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    #64
    Paully D
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    DC is one of the biggest role models in all of sports.

    Has gone through adversity in his life that is so great it is impossible to truly understand, does so much for his community, a proper family man, has only ever lost to a known cheat, and has won numerous titles in numerous divisions across numerous organisations.

    A true legend and arguably the greatest to ever do it.


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    #65
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Paully D wrote: »
    DC is one of the biggest role models in all of sports.

    Has gone through adversity in his life that is so great it is impossible to truly understand, does so much for his community, a proper family man, has only ever lost to a known cheat, and has won numerous titles in numerous divisions across numerous organisations.

    A true legend and arguably the greatest to ever do it.

    He is all of those things. I don't see how he gets credit for being stripped of a title though.


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    #66
    Zero-Cool
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    He could easily keep claiming to be the LHW champ and carry both belts around. Instead he's letting it go. I think it's a nice move anyway, especially how he has clung to Jones's shadow for so long, sign that he might be at peace with the whole thing.

    I was never a big fan of DC but I hope he can retire early 19 or get one more money fight before riding off into the sunset, he deserves it


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    #67
    Paully D
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    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    He could easily keep claiming to be the LHW champ and carry both belts around. Instead he's letting it go. I think it's a nice move anyway, especially how he has clung to Jones's shadow for so long, sign that he might be at peace with the whole thing.

    I was never a big fan of DC but I hope he can retire early 19 or get one more money fight before riding off into the sunset, he deserves it

    As long as he never fights Jones again, I’ll be happy.

    Bounce Brock off the canvas for a round or two until he quits, make one last big payday, and ride off into the sunset as heavyweight champ.

    It’d be the perfect ending IMO. He doesn’t need the Jones fight any more. His legacy far exceeds it.


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    #68
    Bubblegummers
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    Have lost huge interest in 232 due to jones once again popping. It’s getting old and Dana cannot even hide the lies anymore, he pAwned it all into Jeff novitzky last night when it got sticky.

    Cmon the **** Gus


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    #69
    Teddy Daniels
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    Paully D wrote: »
    DC is one of the biggest role models in all of sports.

    Has gone through adversity in his life that is so great it is impossible to truly understand, does so much for his community, a proper family man, has only ever lost to a known cheat, and has won numerous titles in numerous divisions across numerous organisations.

    A true legend and arguably the greatest to ever do it.

    He’s a cheat, he used a magic towel to make weight.


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    #70
    Teddy Daniels
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    Bubblegummers wrote: »
    Have lost huge interest in 232 due to jones once again popping. It’s getting old and Dana cannot even hide the lies anymore, he pAwned it all into Jeff novitzky last night when it got sticky.

    Cmon the **** Gus

    It’s not a a fail it’s a long term metabolite from his previous fail.


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    #71
    dashoonage
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    Teddy Daniels wrote: »
    It’s not a a fail it’s a long term metabolite from his previous fail.

    Jon Jones pops more than a bag of popcorn for **** sake..


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    #72
    Bubblegummers
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    Teddy Daniels wrote: »
    It’s not a a fail it’s a long term metabolite from his previous fail.

    Have you ever heard of Frank Mir, He had less then a “Pictogram” in him and got sent on his way. A picogram did not stay in his body for that length of time and Jon saying his body reacts a certain way is balls. The mans a sted head has always been a dread head end of story. I hope Gus slaps the **** out of him.


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    #73
    dave1982
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    Good old chael breaking it down. As soon as jon tested clean anything found after that is a new fail. Nobody says jon took a picogram...thats whats left.

    Also said chael himself had more juice in him than a tropicana the night the fought jon haha


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    #74
    Bubblegummers
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    dave1982 wrote: »
    Good old chael breaking it down. As soon as jon tested clean anything found after that is a new fail. Nobody says jon took a picogram...thats whats left.

    Nobody said he took a picogram. He is trying to say he couldn’t possibly of took it, I agree he couldn’t of took a picogram. His last test in August showed him clean- why fail in December?


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    #75
    dashoonage
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    Bubblegummers wrote: »
    Nobody said he took a picogram. He is trying to say he couldn’t possibly of took it, I agree he couldn’t of took a picogram. His last test in August showed him clean- why fail in December?

    erm he failed in august and sept too...

    https://mmajunkie.com/2018/12/ufc-jeff-novitzky-usada-jon-jones-drug-tests-ufc-232-doping

    in fact in sept i think he had 19 of those pico mother ****ers in him


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    #76
    Bubblegummers
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    dashoonage wrote: »
    erm he failed in august and sept too...

    https://mmajunkie.com/2018/12/ufc-jeff-novitzky-usada-jon-jones-drug-tests-ufc-232-doping

    in fact in sept i think he had 19 of those pico mother ****ers in him


    I thought he passed in August. Anyway the fockers a cheat


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    #77
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Does anyone else think USADA stopped announcing people who failed tests in September was specifically to keep this under wraps? If NSAC had let this fight go ahead we would never have heard about it?


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    #78
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    Yes. And combined with not disclosing them to CSAC last week either, and the convoluted mess since... shocking. I'm sure the newly announced 'preapproved' supplement providers will be Onnit (as thanks/quid pro quo to Joe rogan for use of his platform). Novitsky better be very very careful of everything he's saying and doing, because Dana will have him under a bus as the fall guy in a pico-second if this gets even messier...

    And if the twitter rumors about UFC 145 are true - that's how Jones got them tangled up in a web: support me now or else I will talk. Nothing more dangerous than a man with nothing to lose.


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    #79
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Cali_girl wrote: »
    Yes. And combined with not disclosing them to CSAC last week either, and the convoluted mess since... shocking. I'm sure the newly announced 'preapproved' supplement providers will be Onnit (as thanks/quid pro quo to Joe rogan for use of his platform). Novitsky better be very very careful of everything he's saying and doing, because Dana will have him under a bus as the fall guy in a pico-second if this gets even messier...

    And if the twitter rumors about UFC 145 are true - that's how Jones got them tangled up in a web: support me now or else I will talk. Nothing more dangerous than a man with nothing to lose.

    Read something on Twitter about some journalist having "evidence" on 145 but not able to share it. Can you go into a bit more detail please?


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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Read something on Twitter about some journalist having "evidence" on 145 but not able to share it. Can you go into a bit more detail please?

    https://twitter.com/MIKERUSSELLMMA And scroll/google a bit!

    That's all I know - long night in babysitting, so I got clicking. And conspiracy theorising... He seems to have journalist accreditations.


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    #81
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Cali_girl wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/MIKERUSSELLMMA And scroll/google a bit!

    That's all I know - long night in babysitting, so I got clicking. And conspiracy theorising... He seems to have journalist accreditations.

    That's what I saw earlier. I know something but I can't tell you kind of bull**** attention seeking really


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    #82
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    Aww, but I had so much fun getting 2+2+2+2 to add up :D

    Something very wrong with the whole mess though.


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    #83
    EagererBeaver
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    Some physique on Douglas de Andrade, even after nearly 12 hours of rehydration.

    It must be down to the fact that he works harder than everyone else in the gym.


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    #84
    Paully D
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    Mike Russell clearly does some good investigative work, and I know his wife is quite sick at the moment so I don’t want to sound like a dick, but he does have a habit of saying things, saying he’s working on confirmation, and never really ever following up to back it up.

    Now, I completely understand that he has to be absolutely bang on with what he says given the nature of the claims he make, but at a certain point continually missing deadlines makes him seem less credible.

    His work on Ali is clearly good though, given the nature of the claims and no litigation from Ali.

    That said, it is very interesting if the results from UFC 145 weren’t made available, yet lots before and after it were, especially when you see who was on the card.


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    #85
    Bubblegummers
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    Paully D wrote: »
    Mike Russell clearly does some good investigative work, and I know his wife is quite sick at the moment so I don’t want to sound like a dick, but he does have a habit of saying things, saying he’s working on confirmation, and never really ever following up to back it up.

    Now, I completely understand that he has to be absolutely bang on with what he says given the nature of the claims he make, but at a certain point continually missing deadlines makes him seem less credible.

    His work on Ali is clearly good though, given the nature of the claims and no litigation from Ali.

    That said, it is very interesting if the results from UFC 145 weren’t made available, yet lots before and after it were, especially when you see who was on the card.


    I hate Ali Abdel Azizz but MR is also a snake. There is litigation too, none of his claims are ever backed up.


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    #86
    Gamb!t
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    No Moa Johansson in embedded :(


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    #87
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    BJ Penn's BJJ game is levels ahead of anything Hall ever was. And I say that as a big fan of Ryan Hall.

    BJ will win that fight handily. It's the worst matchup possible for Ryan Hall to be honest. So someone who can comfortably outstrike him who can also pretty comfortably out grapple him.

    Just doing my bets there and see BJ is 4/1 to win.


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    Subcomandante Marcos
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Just doing my bets there and see BJ is 4/1 to win.

    That'll be my bet tonight so. I just have zero faith in Hall's striking and don't think he can sub BJ.


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    #89
    mailburner
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    you're brave taking bj who is so far past it imo
    the price is probably a bit too big however but when he couldnt beat siver
    last year I doubt he'll beat hall

    not sure he's levels above anybody these days and losing to siver last time wouldnt inspire confidence

    can see hall getting cut if he loses also as he'll never be a draw of any sort


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    #90
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    People are seriously sleeping on how good BJs jiu-jitsu is.


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    #91
    dashoonage
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    People are seriously sleeping on how good BJs jiu-jitsu is.

    People forget. Also remember the mcnugglites don't know what a BJ Penn or jiujitsu is.


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