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Do you give money to charity?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    murpho999 wrote: »
    What do you think a CEO of an organisation such as Concern Wordwide with over 3000 employees should be paid?

    Have you thought about what would happen to the people who need their help if the staff were paid less or not paid at all as many think should happen?

    Most families rely on 35 to 40 thousand to live, some live on less than 20, what is wrong with a normal wage, especially since it is coming from the good will of the hardworking tax payer in the first place to help the needy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭spodoinkle


    I never carry change/cash, used to work for a company on payday everyone gave a pound to that months charity, I would bring in change on that day for this. One day, I didnt and a manager hounded me for two weeks solid to bring in money. I havent gave a penny to charity since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    No , I work for a charity , they get it out of me in sweat and tears.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Ragnar Lothbrok


    Two charities directly out of my wages (one Irish, one for foreign aid). Only about a fiver a week, but over time this adds up and I don't miss such a small amount.

    I also regularly give books, clothes etc to local community centre and SVP or to the official plastic collection bags that come through the letterbox.

    Raffle tickets for various organisations and charities throughout the year cost me a small fortune, but I do occasionally win a prize :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    My extended family, friends, colleagues, work with many very needy folk. eg homeless, abandoned babies overseas. They live in extreme simplicity and work for their keep only and I trust them fully. So they get every cent I can spare. Other charities help me do that by running charity shops where I buy what I need ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    Foreign mainly.
    A school build in Kenya, bicycles for World Bicycle Relief (Africa), orphanage in Argentina, St Vincent de Paul in Ireland.
    I'm not paying the six figure salaries of the charities in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,098 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Nope. Don't give to any charity as I don't trust any of them. Especially the bigger ones with people earning over 100k a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,557 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    I give regularly to one of our local Mountain Rescue teams, I never know when I might need them :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    The Irish Cancer Society.

    I donate 15 euro a month.
    One of my family had cancer and although luckily they're better now you feel so helpless that the only thing I felt I could do was donate a regular amount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭DesperateDan


    Gave to concern for years. One day I met a Concern chugger and gladly acknowledged them and told them I'm all signed up thank you very much. Well they had me talking for 5 mins and managed to have me double the amount I was giving them.

    I can't even look at a chugger now for fear of doing that again :D

    Had to quit the direct debit after about 2 years of paying that, and forgot about it. Then someone from the Irish Hospice Foundation knocks on the front door and I'm signed up to them now :pac:

    But hey, at least they have a competition for a Fiesta.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Foreign mainly.
    A school build in Kenya, bicycles for World Bicycle Relief (Africa), orphanage in Argentina, St Vincent de Paul in Ireland.
    I'm not paying the six figure salaries of the charities in Ireland.

    Aw c'mon , I need to get the Porsche serviced before Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Capuchin Centre, Simon Community too riddled with left wing politics


  • Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I spend money in charity shops and give occasional donations to passive collectors.

    I refuse to donate to charities that employ chuggers - like most people, I am not a fan of harassment, bullying or intimidation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,312 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I never put money in an open bucket regardless of the cause or who is holding the bucket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,312 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Own your meanness.


    Don't be looking for excuses.

    The guy is perfectly entitled to not allowing himself/herself to feel pressurised into donating to a charity if the head honchos are on mega bucks and expenses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 276 ✭✭Kyle More


    Gave to concern for years. One day I met a Concern chugger and gladly acknowledged them and told them I'm all signed up thank you very much. Well they had me talking for 5 mins and managed to have me double the amount I was giving them.

    I can't even look at a chugger now for fear of doing that again :D

    Had to quit the direct debit after about 2 years of paying that, and forgot about it. Then someone from the Irish Hospice Foundation knocks on the front door and I'm signed up to them now :pac:

    But hey, at least they have a competition for a Fiesta.

    They saw you coming :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭bertsmom


    I'm not mad about charities who lecture on policy issues and on how the more fortunate should be almost guilted into feeling bad for having a home (provided for by working a long hard week not other tax payers) so I give to my local hospice sporadically and two local animal charities who do amazing work on a regular basis.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Guide dogs and ispca. That's it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,280 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    I donate to Teach Tom (Suicide And Counselling) and with the week that was, definitely needed and of course Puppy Recuse :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    goat2 wrote: »
    Most families rely on 35 to 40 thousand to live, some live on less than 20, what is wrong with a normal wage, especially since it is coming from the good will of the hardworking tax payer in the first place to help the needy

    Because good and genuine CEOs are very capable people and lead organisations.

    Their skills are very marketable and their services would be in demand and they could command high salaries in a commercial organisation.

    Charities have to compete with that.

    The people you are talking about being on 35k to 40k are not capable of working at the level of a CEO.

    If charities did not pay the money they would not get quality people and their programs, projects etc would not happen and people would not get the help they need.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,254 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Because good and genuine CEOs are very capable people and lead organisations.

    Their skills are very marketable and their services would be in demand and they could command high salaries in a commercial organisation.

    Charities have to compete with that.

    The people you are talking about being on 35k to 40k are not capable of working at the level of a CEO.

    If charities did not pay the money they would not get quality people and their programs, projects etc would not happen and people would not get the help they need.

    I am in agreement with the above and IMO a lot of charities could be amalgamated resulting in lower wage bills leaving more money for frontline services


  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I am in agreement with the above and IMO a lot of charities could be amalgamated resulting in lower wage bills leaving more money for frontline services

    This. How many cancer charities exist in Ireland, each with admin expenses and salaries for CEOs? If there was one overall cancer charity, headed up by a well paid and very organised CEO who could allocate funds into various different cancer research projects and funds it would be a far better use of money. I also think people would give more generously to 1 umbrella charity like this rather than splitting donations amongst several competing charities. And they could really promote 1 donation day, such as daffodil day, where again the public might be tempted to donate €50 instead of €2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Charities receive significant funding from the state. The state receives tax form me every week and on every purchase I make. So yes I give to charities indirectly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Not really no. Our home gives bags of good quality items to local charity shops at least a few times a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    Charities receive significant funding from the state. The state receives tax form me every week and on every purchase I make. So yes I give to charities indirectly.

    Do you know how much they get? For example St. Francis Hospice in Raheny (who I support). They receive funding for staff costs from the HSE and other than that very limited amounts from the government. In fact the building of the new unit in Blanchardstown was completely funded by donations and the loans related to the same are also paid off using the donations (this is made clear in their annual report) as they did not receive money to do this from the government but it's a much needed and utilised facility.
    This. How many cancer charities exist in Ireland, each with admin expenses and salaries for CEOs? If there was one overall cancer charity, headed up by a well paid and very organised CEO who could allocate funds into various different cancer research projects and funds it would be a far better use of money. I also think people would give more generously to 1 umbrella charity like this rather than splitting donations amongst several competing charities. And they could really promote 1 donation day, such as daffodil day, where again the public might be tempted to donate €50 instead of €2.

    I can see where you're coming from but there are some reasons why. For example, individual hospices are set up as charities so as to exempt them from tax implications. It also allows them to fund-raise to receive funding for day-to-day activities of the hospice. The Irish Cancer Society does provide some support to them and other aspects of support to individuals but it would require a major overhaul of how certain services are run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    irish guide dogs (love the doggies), local meal on wheels. thats it. wont donate to the main ones and the homeless etc doesnt really interest me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Do you know how much they get? For example St. Francis Hospice in Raheny (who I support). They receive funding for staff costs from the HSE and other than that very limited amounts from the government. In fact the building of the new unit in Blanchardstown was completely funded by donations and the loans related to the same are also paid off using the donations (this is made clear in their annual report) as they did not receive money to do this from the government but it's a much needed and utilised facility.


    I don't know what they get but I do know taxes I pay and paid by others support these organisations. So indirectly I've done my bit. ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Nope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,114 ✭✭✭OU812


    Don’t give money to charity but decided this year to buy toys with my Tesco Xmas club vouchers and giving them to the local women’s aid refuge.

    I’m sure there’ll be kids that turn up Xmas eve still counting on Santa.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭cavan4sam


    I pay to local charities & SVP because i know first hand of the good work they do at this time of the year


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