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Strokestown **Mod Note in Post #4461**

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    #1322
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I can't talk about the legality of the eviction but how in the name of God was the court order questionable?

    Just out of curiosity, where are you getting the above information? Is it in the media?

    It's just on some whackjob facebook page atm. No mention on any of the main media sites yet.


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    #1323
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    gandalf wrote: »
    It's just on some whackjob facebook page atm. No mention on any of the main media sites yet.

    I've seen it on the Liberal.ie but then again, that's a whackjob news source.


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    #1324
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I've seen it on the Liberal.ie but then again, that's a whackjob news source.

    That's not even a whackjob news source site, its just a plagiarism with an agenda site.


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    #1325
    Billcarson
    Registered Users Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    gandalf wrote: »
    That's not even a whackjob news source site, its just a plagiarism with an agenda site.


    LOL


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    #1326
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    The family are now back in their home. Anne kavanagh has it up on live feed.


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    #1327
    riemann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    If they're back in, this is not good news for anyone looking to reposess a property in the near future!


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    #1328
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    caff wrote: »
    Seems the be from the "call for an Irish revolution" Facebook page. Hope the legal advice is from a professional and not Ben Gilroy

    I know that page well. They usually post information about political scandals and conflicts of interest, in which case in my experience they tend to be fairly accurate - but usually, that information is compiled from public available data and reported on (for instance, videos of Dáil debates, tweets from politicians, etc). I have no idea as to their track record with breaking exclusive stories / scoops.

    Anyone else know if they have any proven record of being accurate when they report alleged facts before any other source has done so? Not casting aspersions, just genuinely unsure as to their record on this.


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    #1329
    megatron989
    Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭megatron989


    One rule for those of us who pay our way. Another rule for those who don't I guess. Funny, I keep seeing this, yet I keep paying.

    Maybe I should stop paying my bills and I can live free aswel.


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    #1330
    riemann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    I know next to nothing about this case or indeed the law in general, however if it's true that one of the lads has lived there for his entire life, will he not have a right to a share in the house and the property should not have been even allowed as collateral on a loan?

    If that's the case KBC, or whoever is involved, could be looking at paying out a few quid.


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    #1331
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    gctest50 wrote: »
    The 50 year old ?

    Some spanners putting up videos on youtube have them all as pensioners FFS.

    And these are the same ones that accuse others of fake news.
    riemann wrote: »
    If they're back in, this is not good news for anyone looking to reposess a property in the near future!

    And it's also not good news for decent people doing their best to pay off their debts.
    These type of stories will make sure no proper foreign lending institution will set foot in the country.


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    #1332
    riemann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    megatron989 wrote: »
    One rule for those of us who pay our way. Another rule for those who don't I guess. Funny, I keep seeing this, yet I keep paying.

    Maybe I should stop paying my bills and I can live free aswel.

    Sure what's stopping you from doing that?


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    #1333
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    riemann wrote: »
    If they're back in, this is not good news for anyone looking to reposess a property in the near future!

    So, are they illegally squatting in the bank's property - in breach of a court order?


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    #1334
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    riemann wrote: »
    I know next to nothing about this case or indeed the law in general, however if it's true that one of the lads has lived there for his entire life, will he not have a right to a share in the house and the property should not have been even allowed as collateral on a loan?

    .

    Presumably, unless he signed the papers putting the house up as collateral.

    Of course this could have been the cute whore plan of the bother all along. Defraud the bank (he likes a bit of that) by claiming he's the sole owner and signing a contract he had no legal right to sign.


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    #1335
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Grayson wrote: »
    As a side note, to diffuse the tension, cal we all agree that strokestown is a funny name?
    The Loyalists were hoping for a Stroke...but the Stroke came with a Poke .


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    #1336
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,755 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    riemann wrote: »
    I know next to nothing about this case or indeed the law in general, however if it's true that one of the lads has lived there for his entire life, will he not have a right to a share in the house and the property should not have been even allowed as collateral on a loan?

    If that's the case KBC, or whoever is involved, could be looking at paying out a few quid.


    It doesn't work that way unless he's registered owner on the deeds. And the owner still lives there and is alive.


    I'm afraid.


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    #1337
    upandcumming
    Registered Users Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭upandcumming


    listermint wrote: »
    It doesn't work that way unless he's registered owner on the deeds. And the owner still lives there and is alive.


    I'm afraid.

    He'll probably die of old age next week the way some posters are going on!


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    #1338
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,755 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    upandcumming wrote: »
    He'll probably die of old age next week the way some posters are going on!

    Sure he's gaining birthdays with every new page in the thread.


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    #1339
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    I'm sure all the lads here defending the poor aul farmer were absolutely up in arms when Brian O'Donnell was getting put out of his Killiney mansion, too.


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    #1340
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    upandcumming wrote: »
    He'll probably die of old age next week the way some posters are going on!

    That man fought in two world wars. You have some bloody respect


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    #1341
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,261 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    riemann wrote: »
    I know next to nothing about this case or indeed the law in general, however if it's true that one of the lads has lived there for his entire life, will he not have a right to a share in the house and the property should not have been even allowed as collateral on a loan?

    If that's the case KBC, or whoever is involved, could be looking at paying out a few quid.

    The answer here is, it depends. It wouldn't be unusual for one son to inherit a farm but that there would be an understanding that other relatives could live there with no legal property entitlement.

    Even up until very recently you could disinherit a spouse. Living there doesn't grant automatic title.


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    #1342
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    gandalf wrote: »
    The irony is the Belgian taxpayers bailed out KBC bank :rolleyes:
    The Belgians were very Nasty in the Congo . A Right Nasty Bunch of Barstewards .

    We’re not having their Congo carry on over here !


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    #1343
    riemann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    listermint wrote: »
    It doesn't work that way unless he's registered owner on the deeds. And the owner still lives there and is alive.


    I'm afraid.

    Doesn't always work that simply my good man.

    If he has been 55 years living in the house, and if his sister has done the same, not many judges are going to send them to the side of the road.

    He probably built the house.

    I've heard of several instances like this, usually comes up after a bereavement where two siblings live together and the property has been willed to a niece or nephew for example. Again I don't really have a clue but time will tell.


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    #1344
    gctest50
    Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    All this will do is make banks go for the much easier Garnishee Order in future cases

    here's the Sherlick lad having a meltdown :


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/rise-in-farm-assets-being-frozen-in-credit-actions-404978.html




    “Garnishee orders can also be applied to other monies and payments available to the debtor but EU payments due to farmers are the most obvious and straightforward target in most cases,”


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    #1345
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    The family are now back in their home. Anne kavanagh has it up on live feed.

    Do you know what, I'm not gonna bother my bollox paying my mortgage from here on out. I'm sick of the banks. I'm sick of the politicians. I'm sick of the way Monster Munch don't have that lovely spice on them anymore. I'm sick of pressing the pedestrian crossing button three times before it changes.


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    #1346
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    riemann wrote: »
    Doesn't always work that simply my good man.

    If he has been 55 years living in the house, and if his sister has done the same, not many judges are going to send them to the side of the road.

    He probably built the house.

    I've heard of several instances like this, usually comes up after a bereavement where two siblings live together and the property has been willed to a niece or nephew for example. Again I don't really have a clue but time will tell.

    Going by that logic, if I get a mortgage on my family home and don't pay it back, they can't kick me out because my wife lives there? Is that what you are saying?


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    #1347
    Lackey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    Someone, somewhere,
    probably earning a six figure salary had to sit at a desk in a suit and decide that hiring a British ‘security firm’ to evict Irish farmers off their land was a good idea,
    draw up the paper work and sign it
    I would love to know who that bright spark was :)


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    #1348
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Lackey wrote: »
    Someone, somewhere,
    probably earning a six figure salary had to sit at a desk in a suit and decide that hiring a British ‘security firm’ to evict Irish farmers off their land was a good idea,
    draw up the paper work and sign it
    I would love to know who that bright spark was :)

    While that bit above is true, someone somewhere who we know who they are - probably earning a six figure salary - owe money to the local quarry, bank and revenue because they didn't pay their bills.


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    #1349
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    Lackey wrote: »
    Someone, somewhere,
    probably earning a six figure salary had to sit at a desk in a suit and decide that hiring a British ‘security firm’ to evict Irish farmers off their land was a good idea,
    draw up the paper work and sign it
    I would love to know who that bright spark was :)

    Someone somewhere
    decided they didn't have to pay the revenue, or co-operate with the revenue investigation,
    decided they didn't need to pay the mortgage.
    decided they didn't need to pay some of their suppliers

    Well then what happened?


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    #1350
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Topgear on Dave wrote: »
    Someone somewhere
    decided they didn't have to pay the revenue, or co-operate with the revenue investigation,
    decided they didn't need to pay the mortgage.
    decided they didn't need to pay some of their suppliers

    Well then what happened?

    All the SJWs on the Interwebs jumped to their aid and they lived happily ever after again :)


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    #1351
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Jesus lads, I'm going out to get a mortgage and no bother paying it back at this rate.

    This country is fecked and in the short term it's only going to get worse.


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