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Cost-Effective, High-Functionality, User-Friendly Replacement for Pay TV

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    davidm20 wrote: »
    Balls, I just renovated and AFAIK got standard coaxial cable run from the SAT in...

    Approx how many transponders are on Astra?

    Roughly 150.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    davidm20 wrote: »
    Balls, I just renovated and AFAIK got standard coaxial cable run from the SAT in...

    Approx how many transponders are on Astra?

    A single standard satellite coax feed will do for all the channels from a Unicable II LNB (up to 32 when last I checked).

    Presently my system is showing 133 muxes found on 28.2E Astra satellite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    davidm20 wrote: »
    Balls, I just renovated and AFAIK got standard coaxial cable run from the SAT in...

    Approx how many transponders are on Astra?

    The number of transponders really doesn’t matter. If you’ve got satellite grade cable run in you’ve multiple options to use this box, with all the channels. These are just some options:

    1. Fit a dish with a Unicable LNB.

    2. Fit a dish with a Unicable 2 LNB. (Won’t matter a Rat’s rear end to the Tiviar, but allows you to receive many channels, simultaneously, with more expensive boxes.)

    3. Fit a dish with a Sky Q LNB, with legacy outputs.

    4. Use a Multiswitch to convert from a universal/legacy LNB TO Unicable/Unicable 2

    If you don’t have a separate tv aerial cable you have various options to combine the satellite and terrestrial channels on the one cable.

    It really boils down to what you are trying to achieve and how much money you want to spend. If you post more details we can help ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭vidapura


    . The box supports a second terrestrial tuner , via usb. I’m going to order one of these, over the next week. (I have one, but it’s not compatible.) Some have a standard coax socket at the rear, giving an ok solution.

    Ooh.. any chance you'd throw up a link to the one you're getting ?
    Wouldn't have a clue which one to get..
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    vidapura wrote: »
    Ooh.. any chance you'd throw up a link to the one you're getting ?
    Wouldn't have a clue which one to get..
    Thanks

    I'm going to get this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-DVB-T2-Tuner-Enigma2-PC-/182632877162, unless someone has a better suggestion


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    I'm going to get this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-DVB-T2-Tuner-Enigma2-PC-/182632877162, unless someone has a better suggestion

    Let me know how it goes I'm thinking of adding the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I got some DVB-T dongles for about a third of the price of that ...... maybe it would not suit the receiver.

    I did not need T2 for Saorview.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    I got some DVB-T dongles for about a third of the price of that ...... maybe it would not suit the receiver.

    I did not need T2 for Saorview.

    It needs to be a chipset that has drivers available, working and included in OpenAtv or Vix


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    It needs to be a chipset that has drivers available, working and included in OpenAtv or Vix

    The chipset was Realtek RTL2832U which should have the drivers in the Linux kernel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    The chipset was Realtek RTL2832U which should have the drivers in the Linux kernel.

    There's no guarantee it will work unless someone has got it working before. Some even work but perform badly


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    There's no guarantee it will work unless someone has got it working before. Some even work but perform badly

    I see ....... better to be safe than sorry so ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    I see ....... better to be safe than sorry so ;)

    I'll let Clareman be the guinea pig


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    The chipset was Realtek RTL2832U which should have the drivers in the Linux kernel.

    That chipset is supported in OpenATV, where did you get them and how long did delivery take?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    That chipset is supported in OpenATV, where did you get them and how long did delivery take?

    I don't recall now, but did get two lots - from different suppliers. I know I posted in some thread a link or two, but most likely they are no longer valid.

    Searching on Ebay or Amazon for RTL2832U will show many choices.

    My only advice would be to get a device with a full sized socket for the aerial connector ..... some of the devices have a small connector and an adapter cable.
    Of course if the dongle is plugged in directly to a USB socket on the STB, then those with the adapter cable might be a preferred option so the strain of the coax is not applied to the plugged in dongle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    Searching on Ebay or Amazon for RTL2832U will show many choices.

    My only advice would be to get a device with a full sized socket for the aerial connector ..... some of the devices have a small connector and an adapter cable.
    Of course if the dongle is plugged in directly to a USB socket on the STB, then those with the adapter cable might be a preferred option so the strain of the coax is not applied to the plugged in dongle.

    Yeah, I've found a few on Amazon, I'm going to go with one fulfilled by Amazon.

    I was looking foe one with a full sized socket, but, as you say, the adapter cable is actually a better option, in this case. I can just plug in to a rear usb and connect the adapter cable to the coax out on the box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Yeah, I've found a few on Amazon, I'm going to go with one fulfilled by Amazon.

    I was looking foe one with a full sized socket, but, as you say, the adapter cable is actually a better option, in this case. I can just plug in to a rear usb and connect the adapter cable to the coax out on the box.

    Just make sure the one you purchase has the wee cable included ..... there are a couple of different specs for those small sockets ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭trabpc


    I've cancelled all timers but it's seems to be filling HDD with recorded programmes. Any idea what else I can do to stop recordings. Nothing shows up on timers or auto timers. It's seems like rte 2 is recording constantly.

    I've just disabled auto record. Hopefully that will sort it.

    What's the difference between auto timers and timers?
    TIA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    trabpc wrote: »
    I've cancelled all timers but it's seems to be filling HDD with recorded programmes. Any idea what else I can do to stop recordings. Nothing shows up on timers or auto timers. It's seems like rte 2 is recording constantly.

    I've just disabled auto record. Hopefully that will sort it.

    What's the difference between auto timers and timers?
    TIA

    It's permanent timeshift. Find timeshift in recording settings it's set to save recordings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    trabpc wrote: »
    I've cancelled all timers but it's seems to be filling HDD with recorded programmes. Any idea what else I can do to stop recordings. Nothing shows up on timers or auto timers. It's seems like rte 2 is recording constantly.

    I've just disabled auto record. Hopefully that will sort it.

    What's the difference between auto timers and timers?
    TIA

    You’re on an early image, which was set to auto record the timeshift buffet. Disabling it will solve the problem.

    The real issue was not auto record but that the recordings were stored, but that the recordings were stored in the same directory as other programmes. Had they been stored in a seperarpte directory, as they are in the current image, auto recording would have been fine. As the directory filled, older programmes would have been deleted, without impacting the space available for normal programmes.

    Timers are one offs, i.e. record a specific program, or episode. Auto timers are similar to series link, though based on the programmer name, rather than the series link id.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭trabpc


    I'm on your current image. I downloaded the latest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    trabpc wrote: »
    I'm on your current image. I downloaded the latest.

    Thanks for the reply - somehow the latest image inherited an old setting.
    Turning off autorecord, solves the problem, and will meet most needs.

    Just for information:

    The timeshift starts after 20s to allow rewind of live TV. However, this means that the hard drive is being written to continuously, which is not ideal for laptop grade hard drives. The wear on the drive can be reduced considerably by disabling this function, increasing it’s expected lifetime. This still allows live TV to be paused. An alternative is to use a PVR grade hdd, I’ve given a link earlier in this thread.

    (I tried avoiding this issue altogether by using usb storage, a class 10 memory card, for time-shifting. When/if this failed, it would be a simple matter to replace it, with no effect on permanent recordings. This approach gave intermittent on-screen errors, over a month, or so. I couldn’t find the reason and had to switch back. (Wifey doesn’t like error messages - things are expected to just work, like Sky!)

    When using the external storage for usb, I automatically recorded the timeshift, so that I could watch paused programs, at another time. These recordings were automatically deleted, when the free space went below 8GB. I was going to replicate this functionality, using a dedicated partition on the hdd for time shifting. However, I understand from other forums that multiple partitions can be problematic.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭trabpc


    Luckily I saw the recommendation about the HDD so I got the recommended PVR drive.

    Thanks for that. As you said my recording are mixed-up with other stuff I've downloaded can u share you settings so tv recordings are separate to the other .


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 HolyMolly


    I flashed your image but the missus was too used to THHB's one so will need to restore from backup. I also noticed all the recordings on the HDD have disappeared, she's not happy! Will these be there when I restore the old image?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    HolyMolly wrote: »
    I flashed your image but the missus was too used to THHB's one so will need to restore from backup. I also noticed all the recordings on the HDD have disappeared, she's not happy! Will these be there when I restore the old image?

    The recordings will be fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    trabpc wrote: »
    Luckily I saw the recommendation about the HDD so I got the recommended PVR drive.

    Thanks for that. As you said my recording are mixed-up with other stuff I've downloaded can u share you settings so tv recordings are separate to the other .

    It really depends on what you want to achieve. I use:
    • /media/hdd/timeshift/ as the timeshift and auto-record locations.
    • /media/hdd/movie for films (I set this location manually, at recording time.)
      (From time-to-time I move/archive films to external media, manually.)
    • I let Movie Organisor manage the series folders.
    • For films, I let Movie Browser manage the views and filters. As you can see in my posts on that topic, this gives a great deal of flexibility, and I don’t need a formal folder structure. However, Movie Browser accommodates a folder structure, at least two levels deep.
    • For IPTV I set the recording location to either, RecordedTVProgrammes, Films, Music or Classical, depending or the particular plugin, and associated content.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭trabpc


    Thanks for all the Help. My 11yr old pioneer plasma will live on for a bit longer. Had considered moving in my Freesat box from other room and combine this with a new saorview telly. This Tiviar allows me to keep my existing setup. Sky cancelled today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,931 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    trabpc wrote: »
    Thanks for all the Help. My 11yr old pioneer plasma will live on for a bit longer. Had considered moving in my Freesat box from other room and combine this with a new saorview telly. This Tiviar allows me to keep my existing setup. Sky cancelled today.

    Keep that Pioneer plasma for as long as you can ,modern sets still cant compete with them for SD and HD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭trabpc


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Keep that Pioneer plasma for as long as you can ,modern sets still cant compete with them for SD and HD.

    Ta I do. Only reason I was thinking of getting rid was it had no saorview tuner. But solved now. Yea fantastic pic on it still. Some sound off it too. Is has one massive set of speakers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,931 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    trabpc wrote: »
    Ta I do. Only reason I was thinking of getting rid was it had no saorview tuner. But solved now. Yea fantastic pic on it still. Some sound off it too. Is has one massive set of speakers


    Yes thats another factor to keep it ,the sound on the modern thin sets is crap .
    You need to have depth to get good sound and bass, and modern sets are too thin to achieve that .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    I can now record multiple terrestrial channels, using a DTV dongle, plugged in at the rear. I found a driver for an existing dongle, based on the AF9015 chipset.
    This gives me the flexibility I, and more importantly wifey, needs.

    467962.jpg

    The driver was listed under package management, under advanced settings. After the driver is installed you need to fully reboot the box, rather than just the GUI application. Also, if the box reboots with the usb tuner plugged out, it will not be recognized until a further reboot with it plugged in.

    I also found that a standard scan, even with legacy mode selected, did not pick up any channels. I had to select the correct frequency, which I found from the inbuilt tuner settings, manually.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Do you have a link to the dongle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Do you have a link to the dongle?

    It has an Afatech 9015/9013 chipset ...... and those dongles are old.
    It was the first one I bought many years ago, and continues to work to this day.
    I doubt there are any new ones made currently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    It has an Afatech 9015/9013 chipset ...... and those dongles are old.

    Well spotted! It is at least 8 years old and doesn't even have windows 10 drivers. Cost a couple of euro.

    There are plenty of Realtek ones on Amazon, for around a tenner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Well spotted! It is at least 8 years old and doesn't even have windows 10 drivers. Cost a couple of euro.

    There are plenty of Realtek ones on Amazon, for around a tenner.

    If memory serves it was one of the first dongles to be supported on Linux - I recall waiting for about 18 months for support to reach the kernel. :D

    I have since used the Realtek dongles ..... great fun if you have a radio aerial.
    There is even a radio app for them (browser related) which includes full band use (depending on the dongle) .... SW, LW, MW, FM, SSB etc etc :D


    radio.png

    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/radio-receiver/miieomcelenidlleokajkghmifldohpo?hl=en


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    I use a play tv tuner, it allow you to record both Saorview Muxes at the same time, appears as two tuners in the set up menu of my current image.

    https://www.ebay.ie/itm/ps3-PLAY-TV-Disc-Tuner-Freeview-TV-on-your-PS3-Watch-Pause-Record-View/192747393620?hash=item2ce0a3d254:g:GJAAAOSwg-tcBou9:rk:2:pf:0

    Desktop PC Boards discount code on https://www.satellite.ie/ is boards.ie



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭trabpc


    So how many channels can you now record on saorview at once?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    trabpc wrote: »
    So how many channels can you now record on saorview at once?

    With two tuners the limitation would be hardware ...... can the components of the device handle all that data concurrently? HDD writing speed for instance.
    So theoretically all broadcast channels could be recorded concurrently, while watching any one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    trabpc wrote: »
    So how many channels can you now record on saorview at once?

    I recorded 4 terrestrial channels, 3 satellite, and watched a 5th terrestrial. I use a PVR grade internal HDD, and recorded each channel for over an hour. I skimmed through the recordings last night, and all seemed grand.

    Funny enough, PIP using the second terrestrial tuner is very jittery, particularly on sports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I recorded 4 terrestrial channels, 3 satellite, and watched a 5th terrestrial. I use a PVR grade internal HDD, and recorded each channel for over an hour. I skimmed through the recordings last night, and all seemed grand.

    Funny enough, PIP using the second terrestrial tuner is very jittery, particularly on sports.

    It might also affect things if the channels are all (or most) in full HD ... bigger data rates.

    I wonder if that affects PIP also?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Got one of these boxes today and a bit lost now. I did a full channel scan and now have loads of sky channels that can’t be viewed. Is there an easy way just to get the free to air channels in a nice little set up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Got one of these boxes today and a bit lost now. I did a full channel scan and now have loads of sky channels that can’t be viewed. Is there an easy way just to get the free to air channels in a nice little set up.

    It's much easier for us to support and troubleshoot if you flash one of the members images to your box. See the first post of this thread and my own image and flashing guide is here
    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057827739/11/#post106783394


  • Registered Users Posts: 816 ✭✭✭cuculainn


    It's much easier for us to support and troubleshoot if you flash one of the members images to your box. See the first post of this thread and my own image and flashing guide is here
    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057827739/11/#post106783394

    Hi,

    I have one of these boxes waiting for me at home. hoping to have it set up for the Christmas. I am waiting for a HDD to arrive.
    Am i better to wait and flash it when i have the HDD installed or can i do the flash now and add the HDD when it arrives?

    Also whose image would you recommend, THHBs or NCMs?
    Obviously i expect ye to be biased in one direction or another!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    cuculainn wrote: »
    Hi,

    I have one of these boxes waiting for me at home. hoping to have it set up for the Christmas. I am waiting for a HDD to arrive.
    Am i better to wait and flash it when i have the HDD installed or can i do the flash now and add the HDD when it arrives?

    Also whose image would you recommend, THHBs or NCMs?
    Obviously i expect ye to be biased in one direction or another!!

    There’s no harm in flashing immediately, to start getting familiar with it. In regard to which image,that really depends on what you want to achieve. THHB’s image is a great general purpose image and is where I started. If you want to dig under the bonnet and get to know all about enigma2, it’s a brilliant starting point. My image is specifically designed for general family use. It has been made as easy to use as possible, for users with high expectations for ease of use. It is heavily customized, based on extensive feedback from family and other users. Most settings are locked down and it would probably frustrate technically proficient “twiddlers”.


  • Registered Users Posts: 816 ✭✭✭cuculainn


    There’s no harm in flashing immediately, to start getting familiar with it. In regard to which image,that really depends on what you want to achieve. THHB’s image is a great general purpose image and is where I started. If you want to dig under the bonnet and get to know all about enigma2, it’s a brilliant starting point. My image is specifically designed for general family use. It has been made as easy to use as possible, for users with high expectations for ease of use. It is heavily customized, based on extensive feedback from family and other users. Most settings are locked down and it would probably frustrate technically proficient “twiddlers”.
    Thanks NCM, I suppose there's nothing stopping me from flashing one and trying it and then flashing another?

    I am a definite twiddler, but might not have the time for it at the moment!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 SportsJess


    Hi,
    I am new to Boards and this thread, but have been reading for few days – NCM, THHB and GW you guys have done great job. I have one of these boxes from WOS and comes with OpenATV 6.2 and no int HDD. I already started twiddling with it, but results so far are not great: lots of channels not easy to browse and can only view ‘Last Scanned’ for some reason. I now would like to use NCM or THHB custom build/image and would appreciate your help in this, starting with:

    1. To install one of the builds, do I always start with the flashing process described by NCM ? Would you recommend another way given I already have OpenATV 6.2?

    2. I am about to install a 500GB internal HDD; would you recommend doing this before or after flashing?

    3. Do I need the box connected to the internet for the installation? Currently I don’t have a network cable, only a WiFi connectivity using a mini 150Mbps USB-WiFi dongle but, as you flagged, not very stable.

    4. Do I have to do a new scan (satellite and terrestrial) once installation is complete? if so, would you recommend auto/manual scan – only have one cable from dish to Tuner A (LNB1 IN), feedthrough cable from LNB1 OUT to LNB2 IN, and aerial cable to ANT IN.

    Sorry for the long list of Qs, I am really hoping to get it sorted for Christmas with your kind help – thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭swoofer


    1. Yes, when you flash the high horse image it overwrites the existing and its a very good image for beginners, read the thread if you can find the time as all your questions that you may have will have been answered. There is no other way unless you want to build an image yourself.

    2. yes put in hdd first and for best results you should use a usb stick as well, about 8gb for picons etc.

    3. NO. If you want to use a dongle get a good one ie this one vu+ wireless look on amazon
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/VU-300-Mbps-Wireless-Adapter-Adaptors-black/dp/B00AFX847S/ref=sr_1_2?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1544705154&sr=8-2&keywords=vu%2B+wireless

    4. No all the channels will be there. All you scan is the DTT ones as you may be in a different area from THB.

    5. I would not do a loop through yet as my understanding of loop through is that its for another sat box. I'll ask a separate question as you must have seen it somewhere!! NB dont use loop through!!

    One final tip if you read the thread carefully and make a few notes it will help you no end. Once you have image working do a backup and it will give you options to save to usb or HDD. Save to a USB as in time the reason willl be obivious. You can aslo save to HDD and if you do make a c...k up you can revert back so do a backup fairly frequently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 SportsJess


    swoofer wrote: »
    1. Yes, when you flash the high horse image it overwrites the existing and its a very good image for beginners, read the thread if you can find the time as all your questions that you may have will have been answered. There is no other way unless you want to build an image yourself.

    2. yes put in hdd first and for best results you should use a usb stick as well, about 8gb for picons etc.

    3. NO. If you want to sue a dongle get a good one ie this one vu+ wireless look on amazon


    4. No all the channels will be there. All you scan is the DTT ones as you may be in a different area from THB.

    5. I would not do a loop through yet as my understanding of loop through is that its for another sat box. I'll ask a separate question as you must have seen it somewhere!! NB dont use loop through!!

    One final tip if you read the thread carefully and make a few notes it will help you no end. Once you have image working do a backup and it will give you options to save to usb or HDD. Save to a USB as in time the reason willl be obivious. You can aslo save to HDD and if you do make a c...k up you can revert back so do a backup fairly frequently.


    ===================
    Thanks for your kind reply swoofer and tips - much appreciated. Just to clarify:

    3. Does your NO means no internet connection is needed to complete the full installation?

    5. The box I am talking about is the Tiviar AlphaPlus triple-tuner receiver, and according to the original manual of the box (link posted by NewClareman previously), in 2.2 Satellite Dish Connection:

    "Connect the cable from the satellite dish to LNB IN of TUNER 1. In most situations, connect LNB OUT of TUNER 1 to LNB IN of TUNER 2 using the loop-through cable. Only when two satellite dishes are available without any multi-dish switch, users should connect the cable from the other dish to LNB IN of TUNER 2." ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭swoofer


    You dont need an internet connection to set up box. When you mentioned dongle I thought it a good idea to use one that actually works properly.

    I know its the Tiviar alpha plus and when you load the THB image you must forget about that manual. This box was originally launched a few years ago with a proprietary operating system but never really took off. Some clever people devised a bootloader that would allow it to run on enigma 2 images, ie openatv etc. The instructions for enigma 2 wont be the same as that manual so ignore.

    Out of curiousity I will try loop out on the tiviar and see what it does if anything and report back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    @swoofer As i tried to explain in your other thread, the output loop will be controlled by whatever band and polarity tuner 1 is watching. This means that you will only have a limited range of channels available on the loop which will change as tuner 1 changes channel. Trying to keep track of what would be available to tuner 2 at any particular moment would be a nightmare. That is why I reckon it is not worth the hassle.

    @SportsJess If you only have one feed from the dish to the box it is essential to go into the tuner setup and disable tuner 2 otherwise you will get failed recordings and EPG download errors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭swoofer


    I know but when you look in the original manual for the tiviar manual it makes a specific reference to loop through and after having another read it still makes no sense.

    I tried that loop out and a waste of time.


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