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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    My meal merchant done well out of me this year.. I expect an extra box:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭MeheeHohee


    Any recomendations on where to send young bulls in the south west? Agent in Charleville is saying they are full


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Keep Sluicing


    Ive become so disillusioned with the whole beef farming industry, prices for heifers and bullocks for the last few years leave a small profit, but nothing better than a megre part time wage. I was going through the books this evening and i get more in my than 60% of my profit from SFP, Glas and ANC.
    To draw the payment takes approx 10 hours a year, the cattle take a 1000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,212 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    MeheeHohee wrote: »
    Any recomendations on where to send young bulls in the south west? Agent in Charleville is saying they are full

    With the present kill the processors will back up young bulls unless you are a regular supplier and maybe even then. Bulls can keep from going over fat and as well can be feed for 150+ days before going off feed. Can agent not book them in for 10-14 days time if not just try the AIBP plants in Nenagh and Rathkeale, Kepak in Ennis but I imagine if regular agent cannot get them in you will struggle elsewhere as well

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    MeheeHohee wrote: »
    Any recomendations on where to send young bulls in the south west? Agent in Charleville is saying they are full

    I was just typing charlville.... Don't really want them anywhere unless there u16 and have fat score 3


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Ive become so disillusioned with the whole beef farming industry, prices for heifers and bullocks for the last few years leave a small profit, but nothing better than a megre part time wage. I was going through the books this evening and i get more in my than 60% of my profit from SFP, Glas and ANC.
    To draw the payment takes approx 10 hours a year, the cattle take a 1000.

    The cattle have beef farming ruined.

    That is the fuxjed up situation we are in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,497 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    With the present kill the processors will back up young bulls unless you are a regular supplier and maybe even then. Bulls can keep from going over fat and as well can be feed for 150+ days before going off feed. Can agent not book them in for 10-14 days time if not just try the AIBP plants in Nenagh and Rathkeale, Kepak in Ennis but I imagine if regular agent cannot get them in you will struggle elsewhere as well

    same as 2013, bull price is first to suffer in a glut,
    County livestock rep was at our branch AGM, very poor demand for bulls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Fireside Solicitor


    Its more or less what i did this year. Sold 200 bales as a standing crop, rented out half the farm for 5 years goodish money, destocked to 35% of the animals i normally carry.
    I have a paye job to keep me from fighting with the wife all day.

    There’s a few lads round here getting some grief from the wife. One was told to get rid of it and get a full time job or she was leaving with the children. She blew up when she realized the guts of the SFP was already spent on losses for the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    Anyone see if continental cull will be worth more after Xmas than now or cut my losses ? Mart I’m thinking not enough cover for factory

    Any ideas will they be a shade better after Xmas or waste of time/ money / feed/fodder?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,839 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Mod note can we get back on topic, beef prices please.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,629 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Mod note can we get back on topic, beef prices please.
    Sorry blue, they probably should be in here https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057910894&page=4
    maybe you could move them :)


    Mod: Done. Hopefully the right ones. Now, be good, children! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,497 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    wrangler wrote: »
    same as 2013, bull price is first to suffer in a glut,
    County livestock rep was at our branch AGM, very poor demand for bulls

    Someone refuted this saying there was a good trade for bulls, post seems to have disappeared.
    Neighbour was asking me was there anywhere, was it a Cavan factory that was buying, neighbour very stuck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Last of this years finishers booked in for next Wedneaday. Agent sees no rise coming down tracks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Last 2 gone this morning. Lad that carries them for me struggled to get cattle for himself killed last week. Nothing but 3.75 everywhere. Over supply a huge problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Last 2 gone this morning. Lad that carries them for me struggled to get cattle for himself killed last week. Nothing but 3.75 everywhere. Over supply a huge problem

    Yip thats same story i got. Oversupply is king for factories. If we at least got the proper grading and no over trim for what we have, I think this would be as good as we will ever get. Beef plan has work cut out to get changes re price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    literally the opposite of the lamb trade , economics 101, supply slows down = demand (price) going up. maybe its jjust that simple


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,801 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    wrangler wrote: »
    Someone refuted this saying there was a good trade for bulls, post seems to have disappeared.
    Neighbour was asking me was there anywhere, was it a Cavan factory that was buying, neighbour very stuck

    Think it was me last week or the week before. Clonee but we kill a good few and suppose we have a "relationship" with them as the papers say so might get them away that bit quicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,497 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Think it was me last week or the week before. Clonee but we kill a good few and suppose we have a "relationship" with them as the papers say so might get them away that bit quicker.

    Have you good heifers as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,801 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    wrangler wrote: »
    Have you good heifers as well.

    Have neither good nor bad heifers here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Have neither good nor bad heifers here.

    You can't beat a middle of the road heifer. Reasonable bought and reasonable gain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,212 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    TBH it was standing out since the drought that there would be a lot of cattle for slaughter from late autumn on until well into the New Year. With the scarcity of silage and high rations prices it was on the cards that lads would finish cattle as early/quick as possible this winter. With the good autumn and good grass growth it added more cattle to the kill. It has been my opinion for a while that the economics of winter finishing are skewed all wrong even in a normal year. However some lads are trapped on the merry go round of the 70-100 day system and turning cattle over in that timescale forces lads to kill at least once if not twice over the winter. It is hard at present to see numbers fall off a cliff. From the end of next week the processors will struggle to keep beef from fridges moving as the change over to white meat happens. Consumer demand will not rise again for beef until after Christmas. Processors may not kill at all between Christmas and the New Year if fridges are full. If we see a price rise in the New Year it will be to 3.9/kg at most IMO which with ration/nuts heading towards 300/ton leaves little of a margin

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Any quotes for the week? Not hearing good things....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,385 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Sterling taking a hammering. Not good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    MfMan wrote: »
    Any quotes for the week? Not hearing good things....

    3.75 and mumbling of if they quoted 3.50 they'd be as busy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,497 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Sterling taking a hammering. Not good.

    where is it now,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,385 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    £0.90 = Euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    £0.90 = Euro

    To be fair it’s been at £0.89 for the last week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Did cow prices fall again today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,497 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    TBH it was standing out since the drought that there would be a lot of cattle for slaughter from late autumn on until well into the New Year. With the scarcity of silage and high rations prices it was on the cards that lads would finish cattle as early/quick as possible this winter. With the good autumn and good grass growth it added more cattle to the kill. It has been my opinion for a while that the economics of winter finishing are skewed all wrong even in a normal year. However some lads are trapped on the merry go round of the 70-100 day system and turning cattle over in that timescale forces lads to kill at least once if not twice over the winter. It is hard at present to see numbers fall off a cliff. From the end of next week the processors will struggle to keep beef from fridges moving as the change over to white meat happens. Consumer demand will not rise again for beef until after Christmas. Processors may not kill at all between Christmas and the New Year if fridges are full. If we see a price rise in the New Year it will be to 3.9/kg at most IMO which with ration/nuts heading towards 300/ton leaves little of a margin

    Why do you keep insisting that they're backing up bulls, surely they're moving stock as quick as they can with the. massive kills going on at the moment. now you say the fridges are full, We were always told that bull beef was difficult to sell and first to suffer I'd be surprised if we're heading into the same crisisi as 14 with the lessons farmers got then....if they heeded it is suppose


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    wrangler wrote: »
    Why do you keep insisting that they're backing up bulls, surely they're moving stock as quick as they can with the. massive kills going on at the moment. now you say the fridges are full, We were always told that bull beef was difficult to sell and first to suffer I'd be surprised if we're heading into the same crisisi as 14 with the lessons farmers got then....if they heeded it is suppose

    You can block posters you feel are talking bolx.


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