MeheeHohee wrote: » Any recomendations on where to send young bulls in the south west? Agent in Charleville is saying they are full
Keep Sluicing wrote: » Ive become so disillusioned with the whole beef farming industry, prices for heifers and bullocks for the last few years leave a small profit, but nothing better than a megre part time wage. I was going through the books this evening and i get more in my than 60% of my profit from SFP, Glas and ANC. To draw the payment takes approx 10 hours a year, the cattle take a 1000.
Bass Reeves wrote: » With the present kill the processors will back up young bulls unless you are a regular supplier and maybe even then. Bulls can keep from going over fat and as well can be feed for 150+ days before going off feed. Can agent not book them in for 10-14 days time if not just try the AIBP plants in Nenagh and Rathkeale, Kepak in Ennis but I imagine if regular agent cannot get them in you will struggle elsewhere as well
Keep Sluicing wrote: » Its more or less what i did this year. Sold 200 bales as a standing crop, rented out half the farm for 5 years goodish money, destocked to 35% of the animals i normally carry. I have a paye job to keep me from fighting with the wife all day.
blue5000 wrote: » Mod note can we get back on topic, beef prices please.
wrangler wrote: » same as 2013, bull price is first to suffer in a glut, County livestock rep was at our branch AGM, very poor demand for bulls
CHOPS01 wrote: » Last 2 gone this morning. Lad that carries them for me struggled to get cattle for himself killed last week. Nothing but 3.75 everywhere. Over supply a huge problem
wrangler wrote: » Someone refuted this saying there was a good trade for bulls, post seems to have disappeared. Neighbour was asking me was there anywhere, was it a Cavan factory that was buying, neighbour very stuck
Cavanjack wrote: » Think it was me last week or the week before. Clonee but we kill a good few and suppose we have a "relationship" with them as the papers say so might get them away that bit quicker.
wrangler wrote: » Have you good heifers as well.
Cavanjack wrote: » Have neither good nor bad heifers here.
MfMan wrote: » Any quotes for the week? Not hearing good things....
patsy_mccabe wrote: » Sterling taking a hammering. Not good.
patsy_mccabe wrote: » £0.90 = Euro
Bass Reeves wrote: » TBH it was standing out since the drought that there would be a lot of cattle for slaughter from late autumn on until well into the New Year. With the scarcity of silage and high rations prices it was on the cards that lads would finish cattle as early/quick as possible this winter. With the good autumn and good grass growth it added more cattle to the kill. It has been my opinion for a while that the economics of winter finishing are skewed all wrong even in a normal year. However some lads are trapped on the merry go round of the 70-100 day system and turning cattle over in that timescale forces lads to kill at least once if not twice over the winter. It is hard at present to see numbers fall off a cliff. From the end of next week the processors will struggle to keep beef from fridges moving as the change over to white meat happens. Consumer demand will not rise again for beef until after Christmas. Processors may not kill at all between Christmas and the New Year if fridges are full. If we see a price rise in the New Year it will be to 3.9/kg at most IMO which with ration/nuts heading towards 300/ton leaves little of a margin
wrangler wrote: » Why do you keep insisting that they're backing up bulls, surely they're moving stock as quick as they can with the. massive kills going on at the moment. now you say the fridges are full, We were always told that bull beef was difficult to sell and first to suffer I'd be surprised if we're heading into the same crisisi as 14 with the lessons farmers got then....if they heeded it is suppose
