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Brexit discussion thread V - No Pic/GIF dumps please

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  • #3572
    Anthracite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Anthracite


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    The problem that might emerge for the EU from a hard Brexit is that after a period of uncertainty and taking a major hit a resurgent UK regroups (rather like russia)-the EU would have no control over what may be a more attractive proposition to nations wavering about EU membership (and there are a few).
    Point of information: Russia's economy is still in the toilet. A similar GDP to mighty Canada, with nearly 4 times the population.


  • #3573
    RobMc59
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    The UK is the fifth largest economy in the world. Perhaps after Brexit they regroup. This certainly can't be said for the likes of Poland or most other European countries

    Why not?-and I imagine countries like Italy and Greece will be watching proceedings very closely.


  • #3574
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,351 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    Why not?-and I imagine countries like Italy and Greece will be watching proceedings very closely.

    The irony here is that London would essentially become the caricature of Brussels the tabloids have successfully sold to the British electorate. I don't think continental Europeans are this gullible to be honest.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #3575
    Imreoir2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Imreoir2


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    Why not?-and I imagine countries like Italy and Greece will be watching proceedings very closely.

    The Brexiteers keep saying Italy is next.

    Any day now...


  • #3576
    Anthracite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Anthracite


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    Why not?-and I imagine countries like Italy and Greece will be watching proceedings very closely.
    So...a union of (all of?) the UK, Italy and Greece. Well that makes economic sense.

    No wait, it can't be a union, that defeats the purpose of Brexit. So a trade deal. Awesome. I can totally see them walking out of a union of 500 million people for that.


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  • #3577
    RobMc59
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    The irony here is that London would essentially become the caricature of Brussels the tabloids have successfully sold to the British electorate. I don't think continental Europeans are this gullible to be honest.

    The people in power in the EU will be looking beyond the next few years and the last thing they want is the UK doing well on their own-that's why I believe the EU wants a deal as much as Britain-the old adage-"keep your friends close and your enemies closer" comes to mind.


  • #3578
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    Why not?-and I imagine countries like Italy and Greece will be watching proceedings very closely.

    Because most European countries are too small or to weak to compete on the world stage by themselves anymore. This isn't just a European issues, across the world trade blocks are forming or formed.


  • #3579
    ancapailldorcha
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    RobMc59 wrote: »
    The people in power in the EU will be looking beyond the next few years and the last thing they want is the UK doing well on their own-that's why I believe the EU wants a deal as much as Britain-the old adage-"keep your friends close and your enemies closer" comes to mind.

    There is no sign whatsoever that the UK's situation will improve post-Brexit.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #3580
    First Up
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    The irony here is that London would essentially become the caricature of Brussels the tabloids have successfully sold to the British electorate. I don't think continental Europeans are this gullible to be honest.

    The people in power in the EU will be looking beyond the next few years and the last thing they want is the UK doing well on their own-that's why I believe the EU wants a deal as much as Britain-the old adage-"keep your friends close and your enemies closer" comes to mind.
    Who are "the people in power in the EU"?


  • #3581
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    According to Claire Byrne just now on RTE, May saysbthat she won't compromise.
    Hard Brexit it is so!


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  • #3582
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Looks like May has run out of road.

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1062097914409992192


  • #3583
    Infini
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    According to Claire Byrne just now on RTE, May won't compromise

    She's screwed then. I'd say very likely the only way out of this whole mess at this point is a 2nd ref or crash out. Incompetent failures the lot of them in westminster.


  • #3584
    Water John
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    Sounds like TM is swaying that way tonight. But it won't go through the HoC. She's basically at this point deciding who will resign from the Cabinet.

    Some absolute loonies on CB Live.


  • #3585
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Looks like May has run out of road.

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1062097914409992192

    If a couple of those resign, May is gone. If May goes then it's hard to see any agreement this year.


  • #3586
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    According to Claire Byrne just now on RTE, May saysbthat she won't compromise.
    Hard Brexit it is so!

    I was aghast at the two Brexiters that opened the show.


  • #3587
    Call me Al
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    Hurrache wrote: »
    I was aghast at the two Brexiters that opened the show.

    Jim Allister is making an show of himself. He won't stop talking and shouting. Nobody can get a word in.


  • #3588
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Hurrache wrote: »
    I was aghast at the two Brexiters that opened the show.
    Funnier than Laurel & Hardy (except it's also scary)


  • #3589
    fly_agaric
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    Water John wrote: »
    Some absolute loonies on CB Live.

    It is "car crash" tv alright.
    Oh dear, what a shower of b-tards. I wish some adult would lock all the DUPers and Tory Brexiteers in a rubber room where they could wave their union jack underwear at each other + leave the rest of us in peace.


  • #3590
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Jim Allister doesn't accept the poll. Of course. Mind you, Nolan is a bit of a gob****e.


  • #3591
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,260 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Nolan just has a diff more aggressive style but it doesn't bother me. He is really showing up the idiots.


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  • #3592
    Call me Al
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    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Jim Allister doesn't accept the poll. Of course. Mind you, Nolan is a bit of a gob****e.

    Listening to him there. He gives credence to the concept of alternative facts.


  • #3593
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Jim Allister: "Only 44% of our trade is with the EU." That's okay then.


  • #3594
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Pro-Brexit voices in the north 'the South's economy will be much more damaged by Brexit than the UK's'

    Utter cluelessness and inability to do simple arithmetic never mind have a rudimentary understanding of economics.


  • #3595
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Pro-Brexit voices in the north 'the South's economy will be much more damaged by Brexit than the UK's'

    Utter cluelessness and inability to do simple arithmetic never mind have a rudimentary understanding of economics.

    I was just thinking the same thing. The majority unionist attitude seems to be, we might be fecked but you're going to be more fecked. So there.


  • #3596
    prawnsambo
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    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    I was just thinking the same thing. The majority unionist attitude seems to be, we might be fecked but you're going to be more fecked. So there.
    The economic theories of John Maynard Keystone Cops. We're going to shoot ourselves in the head, but the bullet is sure to carry on and clip you too.


  • #3597
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I watched some of May's speech earlier, talk about trade deals with Africa and Asia which they'll get working on after Brexit.


  • #3598
    Professor Moriarty
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    Jim Allister doing a great job of increasing the anti UI vote in the Republic.


  • #3599
    lawred2
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    Northern Ireland discourse seems to be not much more than an effort in shouting the loudest.. fairly immature discourteous stuff.

    This shows' whole concept is gimmickry


  • #3600
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Just a thought, If the backstop is legally written in with no preconditions, time limits etc. what's to stop Ireland playing real hardball over the trade agreement negotiations? Knowing they have nothing to worry about because the backstop is there.


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  • #3601
    charlie14
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    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Just a thought, If the backstop is legally written in with no preconditions, time limits etc. what's to stop Ireland playing real hardball over the trade agreement negotiations? Knowing they have nothing to worry about because the backstop is there.


    Why would they. What benefit would it be to the RoI ?


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