Taken Down [RTE]

JoeA3 · 11-11-2018 11:36PM

It’s incredibly slow. Waiting for something to happen and nothing much is really happening. The last 10 minutes, we just watched a lady wash dishes and do the ironing... Grim.

The lead Garda - I cannot abide her sighing voice. And the rest of the Gardai are a lazy cliche.

Icsics · 11-11-2018 11:36PM

Had high hopes for this, but it's a tough watch & just frustrating. Collecting the victims belongings next week....

11-11-2018 11:41PM

The only one who might save this programme is Jimmy Smallhorne (Who played Git in Love/Hate). He has great screen presence.

tylercheribini · 11-11-2018 11:42PM

Watchin your man eatin de biscuits was the highlight.

Graniteville · 11-11-2018 11:42PM

What is sad and an indictment of Irish society is that much of the commentary on direct provision centres and how residents are treated, is true.

Quite shameful.

Lisha · 11-11-2018 11:52PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The only one who might save this programme is Jimmy Smallhorne (Who played Git in Love/Hate). He has great screen presence.

He makes me want to scrub myself with Brillo pads...

Lisha · 11-11-2018 11:54PM

Graniteville wrote: »

What is sad and an indictment of Irish society is that much of the commentary on direct provision centres and how residents are treated, is true.

Quite shameful.

I agree, we are all very quick to condemn them and vilify them for being on the make, but their existence can only be described as misery. And then scum bags pull them into crime and seedy exploitation... it is shameful

11-11-2018 11:55PM

Graniteville wrote: »

What is sad and an indictment of Irish society is that much of the commentary on direct provision centres and how residents are treated, is true.

Quite shameful.

That whole system is a joke. The fact that people give years in it speaks volumes too.

FrancieBrady · 11-11-2018 11:55PM

Graniteville wrote: »

What is sad and an indictment of Irish society is that much of the commentary on direct provision centres and how residents are treated, is true.

Quite shameful.

While I totally agree with the above, it is a drama and something needs to start happening. Not enough there tonight to sustain an episode. I will though give it one more.

Beechwoodspark · 12-11-2018 12:06AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

While I totally agree with the above, it is a drama and something needs to start happening. Not enough there tonight to sustain an episode. I will though give it one more.

Very true. Slim pickings when you consider how it has barely moved the plot on from episode 1

goose2005 · 12-11-2018 12:23AM

Spon Farmer wrote: »

It is not a topic I've ever given much thought too, but why are asylum seekers not allowed to work?

because that would let them put down roots, which they could then use as a reason not to be deported

clfy39tzve8njq · 12-11-2018 12:30AM

Graniteville wrote:

Just been told by a colleague that knows someone who has seen more episodes (TV critic) that it is advisable not to have a recently eaten anything when watching episode 3.

I'm given it one more episode solely because of this

Graniteville · 12-11-2018 12:36AM

goose2005 wrote: »

because that would let them put down roots, which they could then use as a reason not to be deported

That's rubbish

Thankfully that changed from last July (Supreme Court ruling) and currently over 500 residents have work permits and it's expected to grow to over 3,000.

Once they are in employment, they must contribute to the cost of staying in the provision centre.

Plenty of rules around it, but it was a good step.

Disclosure - I employ a former direct provision member. She hopes to get Irish citizenship in 3 years and she is brilliant at her job.

Atlantic Dawn · 12-11-2018 12:42AM

4 episodes left, unless there's a major crime gang going to be revealed in the next episode it's going to go downhill.

RabbleRouser2k · 12-11-2018 01:03AM

Tried to watch it...gradually drifted away from interest. Seems to be trying to do the usual RTE thing of being 'modern'... when really behind the times.
Had a cheap 'Law and Order' feel to it. Orla Fitzgerald just makes the same face throughout, and the most interesting thing that occurred was yer wan needing to have a pee. But they even cut that bit short.

Some of the accents are really grating too-especially on the guards. Never spoken to any gardai with accents that bad. (And no-it's not because I was arrested, it was all to do with filling out forms, or renewing passports.)
Acting was a mixed bag too-as I said about Orla, and the main lead didn't seem convincing. She comes across as a new to the force gardai, not a seasoned detective.

Shame-all the promotion behind it... but it looks like it's going to go the way of Acceptable Risk, as in 'okay, shaky start, might improve' all the way to 'What the f**k was that s**t?!'

12-11-2018 01:57AM

Lisha wrote: »

He makes me want to scrub myself with Brillo pads...

A sign of a really top actor.

12-11-2018 02:48AM

It's fair bad..Jesus..the acting/accents..

hatrickpatrick · 12-11-2018 10:31AM

tylercheribini wrote: »

Digital forensics would recover that deleted cctv footage quite easily,its not fully gone until its been written over with other data.

I sincerely hope this is addressed in a future episode. If not, the show just blew the suspension of disbelief, at least in my view. In a real life investigation, they'd have got the drives fully imaged even before looking at any of the footage on them.

prunudo · 12-11-2018 11:57AM

Only 3 pages of new posts about the latest episode says it all really. It moves so slow, I was loosing interest before the first ad break.

tylercheribini · 12-11-2018 12:00PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I sincerely hope this is addressed in a future episode. If not, the show just blew the suspension of disbelief, at least in my view. In a real life investigation, they'd have got the drives fully imaged even before looking at any of the footage on them.

A freeware like Recuva would have even done the trick, so much for "the brains" wizzkid lad.

avfc1874 · 12-11-2018 12:01PM

jvan wrote: »

Only 3 pages of new posts about the latest episode says it all really. It moves so slow, I was loosing interest before the first ad break.

Same here. Too slow. Won't be watching it again

EPAndlee · 12-11-2018 12:14PM

I've given up on this show now its a pretty bad show but what's worst is anytime its mentioned on the radio etc its hailed as been amazing

robwen · 12-11-2018 01:06PM

EPAndlee wrote: »

I've given up on this show now its a pretty bad show but what's worst is anytime its mentioned on the radio etc its hailed as been amazing

RTE radio?

EPAndlee · 12-11-2018 02:32PM

robwen wrote: »

RTE radio?

Any station I've heard it mentioned on

hatrickpatrick · 12-11-2018 08:22PM

EPAndlee wrote: »

I've given up on this show now its a pretty bad show but what's worst is anytime its mentioned on the radio etc its hailed as been amazing

Honestly I'd say a lot of that is virtue signalling or praising it because of its preachy nature. That's the issue I have with so much drama currently - fictional TV is supposed to entertain. It's not good enough to say that a show is "good" just because it sends a particular message or highlights a particular area of life - that should be filed under current affairs, documentary or reality. This whole nonsense of ranking fictional entertainment based on the societal "messaging" it engages in, is utterly toxic and grating in my view.

Don't get me wrong, I actually like this show so far and I'm eager to see how it plays out, I'm just saying that in my view, fiction should be ranked on whether it's good, engaging fiction. Not on whether it's successfully promoting a real-life agenda. Too many are praising it because, for instance, "it shines a light on direct provision" - in my view, that's for Prime Time or the Six One to do, not a fictional drama. Love/Hate was good because it was well written and gripping, not because it was "educating the public on the realities of life in the criminal underworld" or anything like that.

IMO this ties into the wider cultural thing going on at the moment, of fiction being judged not on storytelling or acting, but on box-ticking. It's the same issue which has caused so much BS around video games and other forms of media lately - representation and agenda-pushing being considered more important than actually engaging the audience and piquing their interest through telling a good story.

In my view, Taken Down is a good enough story so far. But it's definitely not deserving of the grandiose acclaim some are heaping on it for reasons other than its storytelling.

BoroMan32 · 12-11-2018 08:37PM

Really disappointing second episode, nowhere near enough happening to keep a viewer properly engaged.

The Late Late Show · 12-11-2018 09:07PM

This is a very disappointing show 2 episodes in. The first episode was decent but episode 2 was slow and dull. There is potential here and maybe the next 4 episodes will be awesome but we'll just have to wait and see. Is 'Taken Down' a second 'Love/Hate', an Irish answer to 'The Handmaid's Tale' or yet another RTE drama that is watchable but tame like 'Rebellion', 'Acceptable Risk', and 'Clean Break'. It is unfortunately looking like the latter after last night. Why is it that the US can have quality series after quality series like 'The Sopranos'. then 'Breaking Bad' and then 'The Handmaid's Tale' while Ireland gave us the excellent 'Love/Hate' and cannot follow it up with anything as good since.

tylercheribini · 12-11-2018 09:15PM

Taken Down should be taken down.

The Late Late Show · 12-11-2018 09:37PM

jvan wrote: »

Only 3 pages of new posts about the latest episode says it all really. It moves so slow, I was loosing interest before the first ad break.

avfc1874 wrote: »

Same here. Too slow. Won't be watching it again

Same here. Episode 2 was way too slow and nothing happened in it. The backstory for this show is good and there is potential for this but this second episode was a waste of time. This is typical of RTE though. They run with a good idea and ruin it by not going the full way. 'Love/Hate' was a one off. Stuart Carolan's involvement with this series is probably minimal. I feel RTE said they'd try a series with a female lead duo as an answer to 'The Handmaid's Tale' but Jo Spain is no Margaret Atwood and there is no Elisabeth Moss quality stars in this either. And if this Wayne is the villain, then it is a joke. Wayne is portrayed as a clown and it is such a waste of Brian Gleeson who previously gave us Hughie, the main villain of the first Love/Hate series.

FixdePitchmark · 12-11-2018 09:39PM

depends how many seasons there are ?

Accepted a bit slow - but there are a lot of characters. If it is a who did it ?( I think that's what it is ) , you need a good few characters.

Not sure the lead can carry the lead. Not convincing on so many levels.

It's kind of timely with the McCabe documentary, but if the writer did research - it is a bit shocking if the behavior of the guards was what the writers felt was accurate.

People will go - it is only drama , but could be a bit close to the bone with how much we know so far.

Taken Down [RTE]

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