Clare GAA discussion thread

windy shepard henderson · 02-11-2018 06:06PM

Stationmaster wrote: »

I think Ballyea and Feakle both have a decent chance this weekend.

You'd imagine that Kilrush will be up against it and I'm not sure to be honest about Miltown.

agree , kilrush are in serious trouble regardless of home advantage , 9 of the east kerry team that lost to dingle in the kerry SFC semi final replay started for kilcumman 2 weeks ago , kilrush would be lucky to stay senior next year on some of there performances this year , the kerry side comfortably won the kerry intermediate championship and are a competitive division 1 league team in kerry to that game will be a write off

miltown if they decide to take this years munster championship serious they should progress to the munster final , but i doubt they would go much further

feakle are a decent senior team that ended up intermediate, they will be a handful for any team next year , like kilmaley last year i expect them to progress to the final , i dont know a whole lot about the waterford side though

fancy ballyea to beat ballygunner , both teams can be heavily reliant on frees at times , but given how sticky they have been at the back all year , and the vast improvement in several players since kevin sheehan took over has been impressive , they are full of inter county experience also so traveling down to waterford wont worry them

windy shepard henderson · 02-11-2018 09:13PM

2 all stars , for john conlon and peter duggan

probably as fair as you could ask for from a clare point of view , but i really think browne deserved an nomination at least especially ahead of the 2 wexford backs nominated

delighted for both clare lads especially duggan who seemed to be the scapegoat for the management when things were not going well he had a great season

Kristopherus · 02-11-2018 09:48PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

2 all stars , for john conlon and peter duggan

probably as fair as you could ask for from a clare point of view , but i really think browne deserved an nomination at least especially ahead of the 2 wexford backs nominated

delighted for both clare lads especially duggan who seemed to be the scapegoat for the management when things were not going well he had a great season

Can't complain with that.

windy shepard henderson · 03-11-2018 04:31PM

brave effort by the shams , played some excellent stuff before running out of steam in the last 10 minutes not the write off i predicted and they can head into next years senior championship with confidence and there heads held high after today

feakle make it into the munster intermediate final against charlivile in two weeks time , an impressive win down in waterford , a ray bane hatrick along with another fine outing by the excellent shane mcgrath saw them through to the final , i would give them a big chance in the final , in my opinion they are similar to kilmaley last year probably a side too good to be intermediate

https://twitter.com/KilcumminGAA/status/1058735096029691904

https://twitter.com/feaklegaa/status/1058733804863528962

Clareman · 03-11-2018 04:47PM

The likes of Feakle, Whitegate, Barefield, Clarecastle are all good enough for Senior and if it was a 20 team championship would stay up comfortably, the way it is now it's very competitive which in my opinion is the way it should be

windy shepard henderson · 03-11-2018 05:22PM

Clareman wrote: »

The likes of Feakle, Whitegate, Barefield, Clarecastle are all good enough for Senior and if it was a 20 team championship would stay up comfortably, the way it is now it's very competitive which in my opinion is the way it should be

i would rate them higher then nearly all of them sides , there main problem is numbers , one of the contributing factors in them going down last year , 2 years ago they came fair close to winning the senior championship

has shane mcgrath been called up to the clare squad for 2019 ?

Clareman · 03-11-2018 06:35PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

i would rate them higher then nearly all of them sides , there main problem is numbers , one of the contributing factors in them going down last year , 2 years ago they came fair close to winning the senior championship

has shane mcgrath been called up to the clare squad for 2019 ?

The draw and injuries can mean that almost any team could be either in the semi finals or relegation playoffs, with the increase in over county games teams without County players will have a big advantage.

I heard he's been given a gym program to work on a and all going well he'll be called up

supernova5 · 03-11-2018 08:07PM

Feakle V Chareville in Munster final

so Clonea [Waterford] beat Garryspillane [Limerick] in the quarter final and Feakle beat Clonea
Charleville [Cork] beat Lixnaw [Kerry] in the other semi final

question is, who beat the Tipperary champions?

Clareman · 03-11-2018 08:14PM

supernova5 wrote: »

Feakle V Chareville in Munster final

so Clonea [Waterford] beat Garryspillane [Limerick] in the quarter final and Feakle beat Clonea
Charleville [Cork] beat Lixnaw [Kerry] in the other semi final

question is, who beat the Tipperary champions?

Lixnaw beat Cashel

Pogue eile · 03-11-2018 08:24PM

supernova5 wrote: »

Feakle V Chareville in Munster final

so Clonea [Waterford] beat Garryspillane [Limerick] in the quarter final and Feakle beat Clonea
Charleville [Cork] beat Lixnaw [Kerry] in the other semi final

question is, who beat the Tipperary champions?

Thurles Sars won the Tipp final so Cashel who were runners up went through to represent Tipp, Lixnaw beat them by 3pts.

Kristopherus · 04-11-2018 04:03PM

Ballygunner 2-17, Ballyea 2-17. Excellent game. Extra time.

Edit: Ballyea 2-19, 'gunner 2-19 after extra 5 mins.

Clareman · 04-11-2018 05:03PM

J@ysus that was some battle, in fairness both teams had their chances to win it at different times, neither deserved to lose, it'll be a long trip home for Ballyea tonight.

ready4liftoff · 04-11-2018 05:36PM

If the powers that be in GAA consider Fergal Horgan as a good ref, then they are completely out of touch with the players who has burst a gut since January and get this gutless display by a ref, who is completely out of his depth. Once again Mr. Horgan has proved to be a homer, when it comes to big calls in the biggest and tightest of matches. I'm sorry but this is part of a wider problem of the GAA, where players who have put their lives on hold and dedicated themselves for the game they love, but have been let so down by incompetent refereeing and officiating. Simply unacceptable, but like Modern Ireland in the 21st century, there will be no accountability. Horgan will continue to get games.

But for Ballyea, they make the long trek home extremely disappointed. They get no second chance. Fergal Horgan will get more chances though. That is the way that GAA works. Sad.

Stationmaster · 04-11-2018 09:30PM

Horgan made some bad calls for both sides. I was cheering on Ballyea and, at he time, only saw the bad decisions against them but watched it back again after and he definitely made some bad ones against Ballygunner too.

Congrats to Ballyea on a great year and they gave it all today too. They can be very proud of their achievements over the last few years.

windy shepard henderson · 04-11-2018 10:03PM

horgan makes some bad calls but i dont think you can blame him for the defeat , it was an excellent game played in terrible conditions best of luck to ballygunner in the final

Clareman · 04-11-2018 10:50PM

I thought Hogan was easily swayed by players throwing themselves on the ground or spinning in the air, the county players on both sides seemed very fond of doing it.

Stacksofwacks · 04-11-2018 11:13PM

Hard luck to Ballyea, was a real sickner for them conceding that last gasp goal in normal time, i think a replay would have been the least they deserved

windy shepard henderson · 05-11-2018 12:05AM

Clareman wrote: »

I thought Hogan was easily swayed by players throwing themselves on the ground or spinning in the air, the county players on both sides seemed very fond of doing it.

horgan ****ed up big time in the kerry county final this year , but overall he is no worse then most ref's he cant be blamed for any team losing today ,

i do feel though that referees are given too many rules to implement and to avoid being fussy the ref as a result becomes inconsistent , the gaa in my opinion really need to help the officials a lot more its almost a case of too many rules at the moment

i agree with the diving today , both teams heading into the game today were very reliant on there free taker's so its probably no surprise they tried to bend the rules

Clareman · 05-11-2018 10:17AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

horgan ****ed up big time in the kerry county final this year , but overall he is no worse then most ref's he cant be blamed for any team losing today ,

i do feel though that referees are given too many rules to implement and to avoid being fussy the ref as a result becomes inconsistent , the gaa in my opinion really need to help the officials a lot more its almost a case of too many rules at the moment

i agree with the diving today , both teams heading into the game today were very reliant on there free taker's so its probably no surprise they tried to bend the rules

For me there's too much for the ref to be keeping an eye on, there's 30 players on a huge pitch with a load of technical fouls to be checking before goign near players fouling each other. I don't know what could be done to make it better, it sounds simple to have 2 refs but it's hard enough to get a ref for a match as it is let alone get 2. Linesmen could be used more but they aren't involved in the play so only get a view from 1 side so I don't think they are the solution either.

Pogue eile · 06-11-2018 09:56PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

Clareman wrote: »

I thought Hogan was easily swayed by players throwing themselves on the ground or spinning in the air, the county players on both sides seemed very fond of doing it.

horgan ****ed up big time in the kerry county final this year , but overall he is no worse then most ref's he cant be blamed for any team losing today ,

i do feel though that referees are given too many rules to implement and to avoid being fussy the ref as a result becomes inconsistent , the gaa in my opinion really need to help the officials a lot more its almost a case of too many rules at the moment

i agree with the diving today , both teams heading into the game today were very reliant on there free taker's so its probably no surprise they tried to bend the rules

Not a fan of his reffing style per say but he was 100% correct in the Kerry County Final

Pogue eile · 06-11-2018 09:56PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

Clareman wrote: »

I thought Hogan was easily swayed by players throwing themselves on the ground or spinning in the air, the county players on both sides seemed very fond of doing it.

horgan ****ed up big time in the kerry county final this year , but overall he is no worse then most ref's he cant be blamed for any team losing today ,

i do feel though that referees are given too many rules to implement and to avoid being fussy the ref as a result becomes inconsistent , the gaa in my opinion really need to help the officials a lot more its almost a case of too many rules at the moment

i agree with the diving today , both teams heading into the game today were very reliant on there free taker's so its probably no surprise they tried to bend the rules

Not a fan of his reffing style per say but he was 100% correct in the Kerry County Final

ready4liftoff · 08-11-2018 07:58PM

Is Derrick Lynch leaving Clare FM? His twitter feed now describes himself as a "sports journalist". I for one will be very sad, to see him leave the station. In my opinion he was one of the best sports broadcast journalists around and I always loved his passion for GAA and in particular Gaelic football.

Whoever replaces Derrick, for when he does leave, will have some tough boots to fill, that is for sure.

On a separate note, any word on who will become Clare U20 hurling manager for 2019. John Carmody was U21 manager for the last two years.

windy shepard henderson · 08-11-2018 08:22PM

Pogue eile wrote: »

Not a fan of his reffing style per say but he was 100% correct in the Kerry County Final

not sure if i agree , that decision lacked commonsense , it was a county final everything at stake and he blows it up with the ball not dead , commonsense from a referee is next dead ball of free conceded , that was a complete disaster of a decision

Pogue eile · 08-11-2018 08:27PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

not sure if i agree , that decision lacked commonsense , it was a county final everything at stake and he blows it up with the ball not dead , commonsense from a referee is next dead ball of free conceded , that was a complete disaster of a decision

He told the free taker it was the last puck of the game, not the last play, it isn't rugby, whay if the ball didnt go out of play for a couple of minutes?

I do agree with you in the sense that commonsense would dictate you dont put yourself in that position but he was 100% correct by the rules, its a problem with a strict set of rules and assessors in the stands, referees are no longer in a position to use the common sense rule. Horgan got to the very top very quickly and there is a reason for that..........I will reiterate again that despite being a Tipp man I am not a fan of Fergal's refereeing, I remember when he first started in Tipp, he was excellent, best in the county y a long way, then he got on the intercounty referees panel and it was all down hill from there, essientially you have to play to the assesors to stay on the panel and there is something inherently wrong with that.

windy shepard henderson · 08-11-2018 08:38PM

ready4liftoff wrote: »

Is Derrick Lynch leaving Clare FM? His twitter feed now describes himself as a "sports journalist". I for one will be very sad, to see him leave the station. In my opinion he was one of the best sports broadcast journalists around and I always loved his passion for GAA and in particular Gaelic football.

Whoever replaces Derrick, for when he does leave, will have some tough boots to fill, that is for sure.

On a separate note, any word on who will become Clare U20 hurling manager for 2019. John Carmody was U21 manager for the last two years.

i doubt it he is leaving , probably looking for more freelance work along side what he is already doing

carmody was the only name put forward at last months meeting , unless someone else comes forward to challenge it will be his again i assume

big_drive · 09-11-2018 01:55PM

I see Clare have given a walkover this weekend in the Munster junior club hurling vs Boherlahan from Tipp. What club should have been playing this or whats the reason?

Clareman · 09-11-2018 05:49PM

big_drive wrote: »

I see Clare have given a walkover this weekend in the Munster junior club hurling vs Boherlahan from Tipp. What club should have been playing this or whats the reason?

Second teams aren't allowed play in it, Ogonnelloe were the Clare nominated team but decided not to go forward.

conor05 · 09-11-2018 07:42PM

Pogue eile wrote: »

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

not sure if i agree , that decision lacked commonsense , it was a county final everything at stake and he blows it up with the ball not dead , commonsense from a referee is next dead ball of free conceded , that was a complete disaster of a decision

He told the free taker it was the last puck of the game, not the last play, it isn't rugby, whay if the ball didnt go out of play for a couple of minutes?

I do agree with you in the sense that commonsense would dictate you dont put yourself in that position but he was 100% correct by the rules, its a problem with a strict set of rules and assessors in the stands, referees are no longer in a position to use the common sense rule. Horgan got to the very top very quickly and there is a reason for that..........I will reiterate again that despite being a Tipp man I am not a fan of Fergal's refereeing, I remember when he first started in Tipp, he was excellent, best in the county y a long way, then he got on the intercounty referees panel and it was all down hill from there, essientially you have to play to the assesors to stay on the panel and there is something inherently wrong with that.

Funnily enough at the final whistle in the Kerry County when all hell broke lose, the only Kilmoyley player who didn’t make a charge for Horgan was the penalty taker himself Daniel Collins.

He dropped to the ground on his knees so Horgan must of told him you need to score this penalty as it is the last puck of the game!

caddy16 · 10-11-2018 03:14PM

I really don't see the issue with what happened in the Kerry final, he told the penalty taker it was the last puck and it was beyond the indicated injury time.

I do agree that he has gone backwards as a referee, he was a very consistent and reffed with common sense.

ready4liftoff · 11-11-2018 03:55PM

Huge victory for St. Joseph's Miltown who went down to Fraher Field and defeated The Nire on a scoreline of 2-11 to 0-9, to book a spot in the Munster club final against Dr Crokes. Congrats to one and all. Their 1st time in a senior provincial decider too. Delighted for them.

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