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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Deliveroo cyclist down under a left turning private coach at fitzwilliam place/leeson street.

    Bike didnt look bad, but the cyclist was being attended to, very close to the front wheel of the bus. Police and fire brigade in attendance.

    Hoping for the best, but it didn't look good at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Heading home this evening through the Phoenix Park - cycle lanes chock a block with pedestrians heading to something on in the zoo. All the little ones and there ma’s and da’s offloading from their cars.

    “Oh look, a cyclist”. “Hey, that light is very bright”. “Watch where you’re cycling - there’s kids about”.

    The joys of cycling in a cycling lane in Ireland, facing people who’ve just come from their cars.

    The park is a disaster in fairness... the much disputed position of the cycle lane/path along the avenue. I would personally remove all the parking along it and put in proper lanes..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Heading home this evening through the Phoenix Park - cycle lanes chock a block with pedestrians heading to something on in the zoo. All the little ones and there ma’s and da’s offloading from their cars.

    “Oh look, a cyclist”. “Hey, that light is very bright”. “Watch where you’re cycling - there’s kids about”.

    The joys of cycling in a cycling lane in Ireland, facing people who’ve just come from their cars.

    Last year they did a lot of publicity and a general 'careful now' message: "the park’s management are asking people cycling to be mindful of families crossing the cycle path in the hours of darkness. Flood lighting is also being provided."

    http://irishcycle.com/2017/11/03/park-users-asked-to-be-mindful-as-night-time-dublin-zoo-event-starts/

    I haven't seen anything similar this year at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    [Not mine]

    Two in one, Tesco first then run off the road at Rathmines Garda Station (yesterday evening)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭site_owner


    ED E wrote: »
    [Not mine]

    Two in one, Tesco first then run off the road at Rathmines Garda Station (yesterday evening)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUt58tpzPhU

    52s and 3m15s for the impatient :)


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    ED E wrote: »
    Two in one, Tesco first then run off the road at Rathmines Garda Station (yesterday evening)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUt58tpzPhU
    Oh my - swearing like a flipping docker :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    Oh my - swearing like a flipping docker :eek:

    It's beyond me how he didn't erupt like a volcano, seriously, that tesco van could have gone much worse only for the cyclist was very alert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Lodged a complaint against a bus eireann this evening. A driver of an expressway close passed me on my way home. He beeped me and gave me a fright much to his amusement and then close passed me. I decided to pull up beside his window and he plain refused to acknowledge me. Some prick.
    I don't have any faith that they'll do anything but felt i had to make it known to the company.
    Seriously considering getting a cam.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Lodged a complaint against a bus eireann this evening. A driver of an expressway close passed me on my way home. He beeped me and gave me a fright much to his amusement and then close passed me. I decided to pull up beside his window and he plain refused to acknowledge me. Some prick.
    I don't have any faith that they'll do anything but felt i had to make it known to the company.
    Seriously considering getting a cam.
    Get a FOI request in quickly before they loose the footage. Apparently they are far better at responding to these. Then go to the Gardai, their internal complaints system has been poor to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    The thing is would the Gardai do anything as I wasn't knocked off my bike. It was clearly intimidating behaviour


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Mc Love wrote: »
    The thing is would the Gardai do anything as I wasn't knocked off my bike. It was clearly intimidating behaviour

    Depends on the Gardai but if the camera shows intent it would help them to be more proactive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Mc Love wrote: »
    The thing is would the Gardai do anything as I wasn't knocked off my bike. It was clearly intimidating behaviour

    Chase it.


    Seriously. There is nothing like a Garda traffic Sergeant calling and asking to speak to the fleet manager requesting driver personals to light a fire under the depot managers proverbial.

    The video from onboard will be enough for driving without due care (using the horn is an offence which helps), get the pulse ID and if the Gard assigned is unenthusiastic email Dublin Castle to move it along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭rushfan


    Few weeks ago, weather forecast was showing wet and windy. Woke up around 12 after a night shift to clear dry sunny skies. So off I headed. As I'm spinning along towards Ballyboughal on the R129, VW driving towards me , suddenly became aware of an artic right behind me, he moves out to pass me, uncomfortably close. I gestured my extreme disapproval Mourinho style, and as he cleared me I noticed the VW had braked hard. I shouted my thanks to Mr VW as if he hadn't braked the artic driver would have probably pulled me under. Tried unsuccessfully to catch him but I made a note of the company name. So the following morning I emailed them, no response. That was on a Thurs. Following Tues, I was a bit thick about it so I emailed them again. The transport manager replied asking for my number, he rang & we had a good chat about it. Turns out they have 3 cameras in the cab, he had reviewed the footage & gave the driver a verbal warning. Next step would be a written warning & after that dismissal. I felt at least some satisfaction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Lodged a complaint against a bus eireann this evening. A driver of an expressway close passed me on my way home. He beeped me and gave me a fright much to his amusement and then close passed me. I decided to pull up beside his window and he plain refused to acknowledge me. Some prick.
    I don't have any faith that they'll do anything but felt i had to make it known to the company.
    Seriously considering getting a cam.

    Do get a cam; it makes drivers much more civil, in general.

    Good piece by Irish Cycling here on how to report using GDPR - if it's not already in a sticky, could I request that it be added? http://irishcycle.com/2018/10/21/how-to-request-cctv-from-dublin-bus-using-gdpr/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭site_owner


    Weepsie wrote: »
    I'm still not entirely sure how accurate that irish cycle GDPR thing is.

    The footage doesn't actually contain any data that makes a person readily identifiable in the strictest of terms that GDPR is intended for, particularly becasue filming is taking place in a public place.

    Footage of you on a public road is not personal Data. If I were Dublin bus, I feel like I'd be well within my right to tell someone to go away.

    I would also take customer complaints more seriously though and feel like there should be a formal complaints process etc

    https://www.dataprotection.ie/docs/Data-Protection-CCTV/242.htm
    Recognisable images captured by CCTV systems are personal data


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Ferris


    Not really a near miss as such, more blind ignorance - or maybe just blind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Ferris wrote: »
    Not really a near miss as such, more blind ignorance - or maybe just blind.



    That's a terrible light break by the car!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Rechuchote wrote: »
    Do get a cam; it makes drivers much more civil, in general.

    Good piece by Irish Cycling here on how to report using GDPR - if it's not already in a sticky, could I request that it be added? http://irishcycle.com/2018/10/21/how-to-request-cctv-from-dublin-bus-using-gdpr/

    I think all road users should have a dashcam. We have one in our car and came very handy when we saw a incident with a bike and car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,164 ✭✭✭homer911


    Mc Love wrote: »
    I decided to pull up beside his window and he plain refused to acknowledge me.
    Stop in front of him next time!


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    homer911 wrote: »
    Stop in front of him next time!
    What if he doesn't stop in time?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    That's a terrible light break by the car!!

    It's hardly unusual nowadays though. Every morning at least one drives across a pedestrian green before I am 5 minutes from my house, flip of a coin if people will stop on red at most N11 junctions between 730 and 900 within the first 5 seconds. I used to get annoyed but am guilty of complacency now. I don't even get ready to push off on green as I'll be ready to go far too early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Lodged a complaint against a bus eireann this evening. A driver of an expressway close passed me on my way home. He beeped me and gave me a fright much to his amusement and then close passed me. I decided to pull up beside his window and he plain refused to acknowledge me. Some prick.
    I don't have any faith that they'll do anything but felt i had to make it known to the company.
    Seriously considering getting a cam.
    All drivers are trained in a highly professional manner it is common for drivers to hoot cyclists to give advance warning that they are going to overtake them in a narrow section of the road.

    That's the response from Bus Eireann


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Mc Love wrote: »
    That's the response from Bus Eireann

    Ah, so you misheard his hoot, it was a friendly one. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    Mc Love wrote: »
    All drivers are trained in a highly professional manner it is common for drivers to hoot cyclists to give advance warning that they are going to overtake them in a narrow section of the road.
    That's the response from Bus Eireann

    Wtf, a 'hoot' absolves them of any wrong doing does it? What a ridiculous statement for them to make. And get that cam, plenty of cheap options out there and they come in handy in situations like the above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    Mc Love wrote: »
    That's the response from Bus Eireann

    That's shocking, a loud unexpected noise is certain to cause more harm than good!
    Using a horn
    Only use a horn to:
    warn other road users of on-coming danger; or make them aware of your presence for safety reasons when reasonably necessary.
    Remember, the horn does not give you the right of way.
    Do not use a horn in a built-up area between 23.30hrs and 07.00hrs unless
    there is a traffic emergency


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    What if he doesn't stop in time?

    Now your dealing with reality, first mistake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,760 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Mc Love wrote: »
    That's the response from Bus Eireann
    That's insane - was that an email response? From a named individual or from a generic address?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    That's a terrible light break by the car!!

    That’s pretty normal behavior now. Every junction in my way to work from Carpenterstown to the city centre, at least one car per junction will break a red light. Some more. Every single junction almost without fail. So Myos pub, coming down the hill, 2 or 3 not unusual - across a green man as well where there’s school kids crossing. Auburn Avenue in Castleknock, 2 or 3 on a red pretty normal. At the end of the park at park gate street, it’s almost comical the cars from chapelizod breaking reds - you can count to 5 plus and still have 2 or 3 coming at you well after a red. They even put in a new set of lights at the bus stataion, presumably to address this. But without enforcement and consequences it’s a waste of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    That’s pretty normal behavior now. Every junction in my way to work from Carpenterstown to the city centre, at least one car per junction will break a red light. Some more. Every single junction almost without fail. So Myos pub, coming down the hill, 2 or 3 not unusual - across a green man as well where there’s school kids crossing. Auburn Avenue in Castleknock, 2 or 3 on a red pretty normal. At the end of the park at park gate street, it’s almost comical the cars from chapelizod breaking reds - you can count to 5 plus and still have 2 or 3 coming at you well after a red. They even put in a new set of lights at the bus stataion, presumably to address this. But without enforcement and consequences it’s a waste of money.

    Same on my route, there are particular junctions where it's, as you say, almost comical. Leonards Corner has a massive delay between lights going red and pedestrian lights going green, and even still you have cars going through after the green man is on. N81 to Templeogue bridge, Sundrive cross, Harolds Cross park, Patrick St/Bride road, Christ Church junction, etc, all will have average 3 cars speeding through after the other direction has green. It's mental.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Wtf, a 'hoot' absolves them of any wrong doing does it? What a ridiculous statement for them to make. And get that cam, plenty of cheap options out there and they come in handy in situations like the above.

    Got any suggestions Alan? Wouldnt need anything too expensive as its only a 15 min each way cycle
    That's insane - was that an email response? From a named individual or from a generic address?

    Named (first name anyway) from the Service Managers Office


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