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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Got any suggestions Alan? Wouldnt need anything too expensive as its only a 15 min each way cycle

    +1, looking for a cheap one myself. Had some very close calls recently.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    That’s pretty normal behavior now. Every junction in my way to work from Carpenterstown to the city centre, at least one car per junction will break a red light.
    i had a funny one yesterday; dunno if you know the pinch point on philipsburgh avenue. it narrows to the point where only one direction of traffic can move through a light controlled junction at one time.
    anyway, yesterday i was approaching the lights, and at least 50m away when they started to go amber. so i immediately started to slow down; the motorist behind me parped the horn at me, and the next thing she comes flying past at high revs and blasts through the light a couple of seconds after it had gone red. i caught up with her at the top of the avenue, having waited at the red, and then having waited to let a van reversing out of a spot, so it *was* worth the stupid manouevre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Got any suggestions Alan? Wouldnt need anything too expensive as its only a 15 min each way cycle


    SJCAM is a decent choice. Cheaper brands are a false economy I think. Go for a slightly older model to save some money. It's a GoPro style camera so you can use it for other things too. Or just tell yourself you will to justify the purchase :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    Couple of near misses spotted from behind the steering wheel the other day. Waiting to turn right at a junction in light traffic. Car in front waits for oncoming car to pass, pauses, and then executes almost perfect right hook on oncoming cyclist. The car just jammed on in time to avoid smashing the cyclist. My passenger was not surprised by the reckless manoeuver as I had started describing what the eejit in front was about to do before the first car had passed in an increasingly loud and, I'm not proud to say, sweary manner. Do people have to be so predictable?

    Second incident of the same journey was almost the same as magicbastarder's tale above. I was approaching a light, it started to change, and having anticipated this I assessed that I could stop in time. However, the car behind anticipated that the car in front (me) would simply go through the red, and in that now familiar tradition, the following cars would also be entitled to break the red. My stopping at the red was not anticipated by the following car so they ended up standing on the brakes and sliding into the bus lane to the left of me, narrowly missing the back of my car. I glanced over at an angry looking man in the other car and pointed towards the red lights. He shook his head and failed to adopt a sunnier disposition before the lights turned green again. He subsequently took off like a scalded cat and weaved across a number of lanes without indicating. I suppose I can only blame myself for my unpredictably law abiding behaviour!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    check_six wrote: »
    Couple of near misses spotted from behind the steering wheel the other day. Waiting to turn right at a junction in light traffic. Car in front waits for oncoming car to pass, pauses, and then executes almost perfect right hook on oncoming cyclist. The car just jammed on in time to avoid smashing the cyclist. My passenger was not surprised by the reckless manoeuver as I had started describing what the eejit in front was about to do before the first car had passed in an increasingly loud and, I'm not proud to say, sweary manner. Do people have to be so predictable?

    Second incident of the same journey was almost the same as magicbastarder's tale above. I was approaching a light, it started to change, and having anticipated this I assessed that I could stop in time. However, the car behind anticipated that the car in front (me) would simply go through the red, and in that now familiar tradition, the following cars would also be entitled to break the red. My stopping at the red was not anticipated by the following car so they ended up standing on the brakes and sliding into the bus lane to the left of me, narrowly missing the back of my car. I glanced over at an angry looking man in the other car and pointed towards the red lights. He shook his head and failed to adopt a sunnier disposition before the lights turned green again. He subsequently took off like a scalded cat and weaved across a number of lanes without indicating. I suppose I can only blame myself for my unpredictably law abiding behaviour!


    Some day your law abiding behaviour might be awarded a €20K payout ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    amcalester wrote: »
    Some day your law abiding behaviour might be awarded a €20K payout ;)

    Yeah, but where would I find a pannier that could fit a neck brace and a single crutch? :confused:

    I've been having some uncomfortable car trips through M50 interchange roads recently. Turns out the speed limit signs are universally ignored, so gradually gently slowing to whatever the limit is is more hair-raising than I would like. Who knew?! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    check_six wrote: »
    Yeah, but where would I find a pannier that could fit a neck brace and a single crutch? :confused:

    I've been having some uncomfortable car trips through M50 interchange roads recently. Turns out the speed limit signs are universally ignored, so gradually gently slowing to whatever the limit is is more hair-raising than I would like. Who knew?! :eek:

    The M50 is generally a sh1t show. I frequently see some exceptionally bad and downright dangerous driving on it. I think some people think they're on the fcuking autobahn when they get onto it. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Diemos


    The M50 is generally a sh1t show. I frequently see some exceptionally bad and downright dangerous driving on it. I think some people think they're on the fcuking autobahn when they get onto it. :cool:
    To be fair we are not allowed on a motorway to learn, we do a test that has nothing to do with motorways and then we are allowed to drive on them. Completely illogical.

    Yes, every driver should know the rules of the road but I think education is sorely lacking.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    most of the bad driving i see on the M50 i'd put down to arrogance, not ignorance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Diemos


    I think there is more then enough of both to go around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭benjamin d


    Very, very few people don't know how to drive on a motorway. Almost everyone knows you keep left unless overtaking, ditto with leaving gaps for merging traffic and not tailgating etc. People avoid doing those things because it's easier for them and they perceive an advantage in getting where they're going. It's pure arrogance and inability to see that they're the problem on the roads, in fairness mixed with the usually rightful assumption that if they drive to the rules someone else will take advantage and screw them over/cut them off/do something stupid to affect them. Driving on a motorway isn't rocket science.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭Bull76


    Don't do much cycling, about a 20km round trip. But had a truck and large trailer pull out on me even though he seen me. Had to break so as not to end up under the trailer. Then he pulled in 200m down the road. I know he seen me as he looked my way 3 times before pulling out. Usually cycle back roads and are narrow so lots of vehicles passing close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,768 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    That’s pretty normal behavior now. Every junction in my way to work from Carpenterstown to the city centre, at least one car per junction will break a red light. Some more. Every single junction almost without fail. So Myos pub, coming down the hill, 2 or 3 not unusual - across a green man as well where there’s school kids crossing. Auburn Avenue in Castleknock, 2 or 3 on a red pretty normal. At the end of the park at park gate street, it’s almost comical the cars from chapelizod breaking reds - you can count to 5 plus and still have 2 or 3 coming at you well after a red. They even put in a new set of lights at the bus stataion, presumably to address this. But without enforcement and consequences it’s a waste of money.

    It is chronic at this stage. When Im not cycling Im on a motorbike usually at the top of the lights. Coming out of the Phoenix Park at the Conyham gate always a good few cars break the red light. Before I even move off when my light goes green the first thing I do is crane my neck right to see how many red light breakers there are. Its just become instinct to check now because I know if I dont its likely I will get taken out of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    Coming down the South Quays by Tara Station yesterday, going through the lights. Some guy came from the left on a bike (breaking the red light) and nearly ran into me, i swerved a little and was came close to being taken out by a taxi. He nearly knocked down a few pedestrians walking across the road too.

    I gave him a little piece of my mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,273 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Howth Road - 8:35am this morning.

    I'm cycling in the bus lane. Bus comes up in RHS lane and proceeds to push left quickly literally "kerbing" me (i.e. steers left when front door of bus is to my right)

    The bus then pulls up to a bus stop. I overtake and pull up in front the driver to take note of the registration plate. The driver sticks up his middle finger at me. I point out the fact that I got his plate. He shouts "I don't care".

    Surely he should care... I have his plate, his bus number, and I'm sure there is footage of him kerbing me, plus internal camera footage of him sticking up his finger?


    "31B" - "07-D-30017"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Howth Road - 8:35am this morning.

    I'm cycling in the bus lane. Bus comes up in RHS lane and proceeds to push left quickly literally "kerbing" me (i.e. steers left when front door of bus is to my right)

    The bus then pulls up to a bus stop. I overtake and pull up in front the driver to take note of the registration plate. The driver sticks up his middle finger at me. I point out the fact that I got his plate. He shouts "I don't care".

    Surely he should care... I have his plate, his bus number, and I'm sure there is footage of him kerbing me, plus internal camera footage of him sticking up his finger?


    "31B" - "07-D-30017"

    There's information in a thread somewhere here about requesting the footage under FOI. You could report him to the gardai with that perhaps? He might care then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Howth Road - 8:35am this morning.

    I'm cycling in the bus lane. Bus comes up in RHS lane and proceeds to push left quickly literally "kerbing" me (i.e. steers left when front door of bus is to my right)

    The bus then pulls up to a bus stop. I overtake and pull up in front the driver to take note of the registration plate. The driver sticks up his middle finger at me. I point out the fact that I got his plate. He shouts "I don't care".

    Surely he should care... I have his plate, his bus number, and I'm sure there is footage of him kerbing me, plus internal camera footage of him sticking up his finger?



    "31B" - "07-D-30017"

    Whats the worst that can happen to him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,273 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    There's information in a thread somewhere here about requesting the footage under FOI. You could report him to the gardai with that perhaps? He might care then.

    yeah

    I'll send it to Dublin Bus and ask them to send me on evidence that he was disciplined or I'll have to take it up with the Gardai


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭buffalo


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Howth Road - 8:35am this morning.

    The GDPR subject access request appears to be a great way to get footage. I've a test case in progress at the moment:

    https://www.dublinbus.ie/Privacy/Making-a-Subject-Access-Request/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,273 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    Whats the worst that can happen to him?

    Take an idiot like this off the roads hopefully (or at least scare him into driving more carefully)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭site_owner


    they wont take him off the road, look at that bus driver who got a 4 year ban for killing a cyclist.
    he is still driving a bus today, and they are keeping his ban on hold until after christmas

    best outcome is you post your footage on this thread or twitter, get a few likes, and we continue to highlight the crap that people driving pull every day, until eventually something gets done a policy level


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭VW 1


    mrcheez wrote: »
    yeah

    I'll send it to Dublin Bus and ask them to send me on evidence that he was disciplined or I'll have to take it up with the Gardai

    From my own experience, and seeing the same for numerous others on the thread, you will get nothing other than a stock letter from Dublin Bus to say they will look into it.

    Go down the reporting to Trafficwatch and accompany it by a FOI request for the camera footage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭tibor_imo


    Saw what looked like a nasty incident cycling home yesterday from Sandyford back to town.

    Just past The Goat there was a cyclist lying prone, being attended to with bike about 10 metres down the road. Guards were at the scene, saw an ambulance heading that direction a few minutes later. Hope all was ok.

    Couple of minutes down the road heading towards Ranelagh and I got cut off by a jeep turning left onto Milltown Road when the lights were red for her (filter to turn for left).

    Depressing how often this stuff happens, when all you're trying to do is get home safe.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,001 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    tibor_imo wrote: »
    Couple of minutes down the road heading towards Ranelagh and I got cut off by a jeep turning left onto Milltown Road when the lights were red for her (filter to turn for left).

    Another thing that is becoming more usual in the mornings, several times over the last month, i see drivers move on after waiting on red when the pedestrian light goes green. It is like they are not fully focused on what is going on. One or two copped what they had done and at least slowed, the rest just boot on through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭benjamin d


    I regularly see filter lights ignored when they're red. The n11 outbound heading down Mt Merrion avenue is a classic one. Cars barely slow down when booting through the red there. I'm glad to see that policy has apparently shifted to removing left filters altogether when junctions are being redesigned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    It's like people don't know how traffic lights work.
    I'm often at a junction, waiting for a green filter to turn left, and you get beeped from behind for not turning on the red, across a green for a pedestrian crossing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Saw a nice situation at Castleknock this morning. There’s a new Lidl store being built opposite myos pub. It’s traffic gridlock ground zero around there. Absolute chaos.

    Anyway, lights go red and two motorists elect to ignore the lights in front of me. They get stuck behind the queue in front of them. The lights coming from the right go green, there’s usually a massive queue to Castleknock college. So we now have a Mexican stand off - four cars stuck on the yellow box, all beeping at each other. Eventually the traffic heading towards the city moves, so the four of them can move on. Across the green man junction, now being used by parents and kids to the local schools. Car one, followed by two then three and four. All across a green man crossing as if it’s perfectly normal. No one bats an eyelid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Saw a nice situation at Castleknock this morning. There’s a new Lidl store being built opposite myos pub. It’s traffic gridlock ground zero around there. Absolute chaos.

    Anyway, lights go red and two motorists elect to ignore the lights in front of me. They get stuck behind the queue in front of them. The lights coming from the right go green, there’s usually a massive queue to Castleknock college. So we now have a Mexican stand off - four cars stuck on the yellow box, all beeping at each other. Eventually the traffic heading towards the city moves, so the four of them can move on. Across the green man junction, now being used by parents and kids to the local schools. Car one, followed by two then three and four. All across a green man crossing as if it’s perfectly normal. No one bats an eyelid.

    Seems to be a view that - well if I'm in the yellow box; well I have to get out of the yellow box or else I'll block the traffic, so I'll just nip through these pedestrian lights, because the pedestrians can get out of the way, but heaven forbid that the motorists are blocked.....

    Because as we all know......motorists own the road.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's proper bananas lunacy that lidl got the go-ahead to be built in what was already an excessively congested village.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,615 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    it's proper bananas lunacy that lidl got the go-ahead to be built in what was already an excessively congested village.

    Another questionable one is Terenure Aldi. It's right across the road from the nation's school, and a pedestrian crossing. The very wide access to the car park doesn't have zebra crossing or any signs for drivers to be mindful of pedestrians. The mind boggles that this was not considered as mandatory for the grant of planning.


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