Some Lithuanians in Ireland & criminality

Harry Palmr · 07-11-2018 12:28AM

How dare you come on here with your first person narrative of fair mindedness.

07-11-2018 01:18AM

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I am lithuanian, live here for 13 years]

I’m quite sure you and other Lithuanians are p1ssed off hearing brutal attempts by Irish newsreaders of Lithuanian names! :pac:

Roger Hassenforder · 07-11-2018 01:57AM

listermint wrote: »

It also rolls off the tongue in a special Dublinese way.

Im from Cork you langer boi

07-11-2018 02:00AM

corner of hells wrote: »

There's clearly something seriously wrong with that woman , she's to have a psychiatric evaluation in custody.Thats unusual for a woman to behave so viciously .

Going off topic here, but psychiatric services in this country are sometimes disastrous and serve neither Irish citizens nor immigrants. Remember the guy from Sicily who took a bad turn in his diagnosed schizophrenia and murdered (in a gruesome fashion) a man he was playing cards with in Castkeknock when some minor argument turned into a psychotic episode. It turned out the Sicilian man had been instructed by his Italian psychiatrist never ever to withdraw from his medication as it could be dangerous to do so. He had been told to keep attending a psychiatrist for monitoring of treatment. Alas, his Irish psychiatrist decided it would be a good idea to withdraw from the tablets which had been keeping him stable and functioning. The result was tragedy for both victim and perpetrator. A cohort of our street homeless have various serious psychiatric conditions which have not been sufficiently addressed, both Irish and non-national.

SterlingArcher · 07-11-2018 02:12AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Going off topic here, but psychiatric services in this country are sometimes disastrous and serve neither Irish citizens nor immigrants. Remember the guy from Sicily who took a bad turn in his diagnosed schizophrenia and murdered (in a gruesome fashion) a man he was playing cards with in Castkeknock when some minor argument turned into a psychotic episode. It turned out the Sicilian man had been instructed by his Italian psychiatrist never ever to withdraw from his medication as it could be dangerous to do so. He had been told to keep attending a psychiatrist for monitoring of treatment. Alas, his Irish psychiatrist decided it would be a good idea to withdraw from the tablets which had been keeping him stable and functioning. The result was tragedy for both victim and perpetrator. A cohort of our street homeless have various serious psychiatric conditions which have not been sufficiently addressed, both Irish and non-national.

While the government push a metal health advertising and awareness campaign to be seen as pro active. The reality on the ground is they have no real interest in it.

And to shadowheart, good for you stepping up.

ShadowHearth · 07-11-2018 02:54AM

SterlingArcher wrote: »

While the government push a metal health advertising and awareness campaign to be seen as pro active. The reality on the ground is they have no real interest in it.

And to shadowheart, good for you stepping up.

Not really stepping up, but maybe clearing it up. Lithuanians themselves are not excited knowing that these "gangsters" came over here. We had enough of it back there and trust me, we know what eastern Europe organized crime gangs are capable off.
My post was not intended to "get offended" and "triggered" by someone saying all immigrants and Lithuanians are scumbags, derp derp. Its internet, you learn to ignore "special snowflakes" if you know what I mean. For whats its worth, in 13 years here I encountered extremely small amount of Pricks who would treat me differently, because I was not Irish. People here are cool as f***. There is a reason why I decided to live here for the rest of my life. I just need to sort out that irish passport, but there is one problem! I need to get finger out and do it!

WillieMason · 07-11-2018 05:10AM

They work too hard meaning everyone else has to work more otherwise a sound bunch

Brian? · 07-11-2018 05:18AM

mammajamma wrote: »

The same old question that apparently dare not be asked: what is Ireland, and Irish people, gaining from this immigration?

At best, it seems great for immigrants (not for us), at worst there are literally murderers allowed to Swan on in.

You have immigrant "areas" now. Saw the poor bloke that died sleeping rough on the streets last night on the news. One of the obvious questions is why wasn't this person able to get a place to live when there are entire families being housed from foreign countries.

Then it turns out the poor bloke was polish! What was he doing here?

What kind of shytshow are we pretending to run as a country?

It's funny that that question "dare not be asked". Especially as I see it asked multiple times every day on boards

Peregrinus · 07-11-2018 05:29AM

kneemos wrote: »

Lots of talk about "a gang". Don't see anything about Lithuanians being particularly lawless as a race.

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

He said they weren’t.

Well, then, here's a thought: maybe the criminality of this particular bunch of lads has actually nothing at all to do with their nationality?

nice_guy80 · 07-11-2018 09:14AM

Great mechanics though...

MarkY91 · 07-11-2018 12:21PM

Only met 2 Lithuanians personally.

One moved over in his early 20s or so. Went to do a course while working in his parents cake shop here.

The other is in my course. Here half his life, aims to be a pilot one day.

Both decent lads. I do read a lot about scumbags though which is our own fault as we don't deport anyone.

ebbsy · 07-11-2018 12:25PM

You d'ont have to look too far for scumbags of our own kind - they populate the red line luas every day.

I only know one Lithuanian myself - a bird who works in Tesco. Absolutely cracking she is.

topper75 · 07-11-2018 02:39PM

Gatling wrote: »

Piss poor immigration control and the total inability to remove serious offenders from the state is another issue we need to look at ,

Yes.

The following was a local instance that caught my attention lately:

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/345815/man-jailed-for-jumping-on-bonnet-of-patrol-car-in-limerick-city.html

The key line in the article (for which no explanation is given) is:

He has been in the direct provision system for some time and is the subject of a deportation order, which has never been executed.

topper75 · 07-11-2018 02:42PM

ebbsy wrote: »

You d'ont have to look too far for scumbags of our own kind - they populate the red line luas every day.

You are correct in stating that.

You would not be correct if you were venturing that this was some kind of rationale for not seeking to exclude scumbags that are not ours. That filter is important. It concerns me when evidence is abundant that this filter is not functioning. It raises questions as to why our authorities are laissez-faire on the matter.

mammajamma · 07-11-2018 03:41PM

Brian? wrote: »

It's funny that that question "dare not be asked". Especially as I see it asked multiple times every day on boards

If it wasn't obvious enough, I meant elsewhere. Where else has anyone in any form of media, presented this as a question to the public at large?

Your man peter casey mumbled something about travellers and housing and look at the outcry that made. Now just imagine the media reaction if someone asked my question.

The government needs to keep this under wraps as best as they can, because it would utterly up-end there economic pinning on international corporations, and "attracting" people here. I also think that if the question were posed in any meaningful way to irish people, the vast majority would be behind it, simply for that one reason, there is FA benefit from it.

Emperors new clothes, but no person is willing to shout out the obvious.

Yet.

Hector Savage · 07-11-2018 04:52PM

spurious wrote: »

I get the impression this thread (and others along the same lines) is mainly made up of the same person talking to themselves.

Yep it is, keep telling yourself that as you stuff your head deeper into the sand.
Don't mind me , I'm just a bot ...

biko · 07-11-2018 05:45PM

Deport any criminal immigrants forever
There is no reason for us to allow us to be easy pickings.

ebbsy · 07-11-2018 05:52PM

topper75 wrote: »

You are correct in stating that.

You would not be correct if you were venturing that this was some kind of rationale for not seeking to exclude scumbags that are not ours. That filter is important. It concerns me when evidence is abundant that this filter is not functioning. It raises questions as to why our authorities are laissez-faire on the matter.

All the scumbags I have seen on the red line :

- racially abusing people
- high on drugs etc
- shouting at women (Monday)
- bag snatching

….were Irish.

Scum the lot of them. I doubt they even paid for a ticket.

topper75 · 07-11-2018 05:52PM

biko wrote: »

Deport any criminal immigrants forever
There is no reason for us to allow us to be easy pickings.

Apart from the obvious loss incurred by Irish people from this criminality, these types also do other immigrants a disservice in bringing down the name of all that come to our land.

It is absolutely nobody's interest to retain them here, if you discount a few unscrupulous elements of the legal fraternity.

Timberrrrrrrr · 07-11-2018 05:54PM

biko wrote: »

Deport any criminal immigrants forever
There is no reason for us to allow us to be easy pickings.

Imagine if every country took that step? Ireland would be swamped with criminal traveller gangs even worse than it is now!

wexie · 07-11-2018 05:56PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Imagine if every country took that step? Ireland would be swamped with criminal traveller gangs even worse than it is now!

Maybe we could find some country somewhere that everybody could send them to. Some nice global penal colony like Australia 2.0

Maybe best if it's an island nation somewhere.

biko · 07-11-2018 06:04PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Imagine if every country took that step? Ireland would be swamped with criminal traveller gangs even worse than it is now!

I am aware yes, and still agree with it.
Why would other countries have to deal with our criminals, I don't think that's fair.

weldoninhio · 07-11-2018 07:52PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Imagine if every country took that step? Ireland would be swamped with criminal traveller gangs even worse than it is now!

You do know that “Irish travellers” aren’t necessarily from Ireland, the same way Roma travellers aren’t necessarily from Romania??

Timberrrrrrrr · 07-11-2018 07:54PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

You do know that “Irish travellers” aren’t necessarily from Ireland, the same way Roma travellers aren’t necessarily from Romania??

Where did i say they were?

weldoninhio · 07-11-2018 08:40PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Where did i say they were?

Most “criminal traveller gangs” in the U.K. are English. Why would we be over run??

Timberrrrrrrr · 07-11-2018 09:19PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Most “criminal traveller gangs” in the U.K. are English. Why would we be over run??

I'm not on about the English ones in the UK, I'm on about the Irish ones in countries all over the world that we read about on a very regular basis!

weldoninhio · 07-11-2018 10:04PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I'm not on about the English ones in the UK, I'm on about the Irish ones in countries all over the world that we read about on a very regular basis!

How do you know they are from Ireland??

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 07-11-2018 10:45PM

A friend of mine is Lithuanian and her friends and partner are also. She regularly says that if Lithuanian bouncers are on the door of bars, they won’t be let in. No problems with any other bouncers, just Lithuanian

postername1 · 07-11-2018 10:53PM

they have taken over the heroin trade in large parts of galway city,
their reputation is so fiercesome the local dealers literally ran to the hills,
they are exporting their cash through online poker sites

Grayson · 07-11-2018 10:53PM

The Crowman wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-charged-with-double-murder-of-lithuanian-mother-and-daughter-29381115.html

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/ruthless-lithuanian-gang-now-controls-corks-heroin-market-865724.html

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/convicted-killer-raped-woman-as-fiveyearold-son-slept-in-next-room-37336221.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/men-tried-to-sell-woman-as-sex-slave-court-told-1.997312

Those are just a sample.

I think you need to google "statistics". However you have you used the word sample correctly, although you probably didn't realise it.

btw a sample size of 4 is useless. You'd be more accurate rolling a dice.

Some Lithuanians in Ireland & criminality

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