Making A Murderer [Netflix - Documentary Series]

PokeHerKing · 02-11-2018 03:51PM

extra gravy wrote: »

I thought it was noticeable that the judges kept interrupting her when she trying to make a point but didn't do that with the state solicitor. It was ignorant imo and could have put her off. The state solicitor was very impressive though and maybe Nirider just didn't have the nous for a higher court and the higher level of argument associated with it.

The judges that had already made their minds up interrupted both her and the state prosecutor.

The female judges that ruled in favour of Dassey lashed into the state prosecutor straight away and the male/female judges that were never for turning lashed into her in a similar fashion.

Most of the panel had their minds made up well before the oral arguments. She wasn't strong enough to sway either of the fence sitters.

Blanco100 · 02-11-2018 07:43PM

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Totally agree dassey council out of her depth. You only get one chance at these things.

Agree with this, even the footage of her with her hands over her face, grimacing and deeply exhaling whilst practicing in the moot court, was amateur stuff. Sure its highly pressured, but at that level of courts system your representative needs to be different gravy altogether.

Zellner should have taken Brendans case instead in my opinion, surely his exoneration would open up possibilty of SA being exonerated in long run.

If Brendan doesnt get out then SA definitely isnt getting out. Imagine the farce of Avery being free and Dassey still being locked up considering his confession implicated Avery.

Tipsy McSwagger · 02-11-2018 10:08PM

On episode 4. So far the season is boring and each episode is dragged out. Saying that anytime Zellner is on screen it perks up.

bobsman · 02-11-2018 11:10PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

On episode 4. So far the season is boring and each episode is dragged out. Saying that anytime Zellner is on screen it perks up.

Zellner very watchable. It is dragging alright.

Mountainsandh · 02-11-2018 11:13PM

James Forde wrote: »

Is Tipsy McSwagger Ken Kratz?

I'm re-watching, but I'm skipping all the Brendan case bits, and all the family bits unless I see Barbs mouthing away. I just keep the bits with Zellner

But it's my 2nd time I guess, and now I know a lot more about the family (from my own research) I feel less empathy, and have less patience for the slow sad bits.

enfant terrible · 02-11-2018 11:20PM

runningbuddy wrote: »

Exactly.

TH went to the property assuming she was meeting "Barb". Not SA.

Stop talking sense, it was all a sick conspiracy against poor Steven Avery, they planted the bones, blood and DNA etc..

Does everyone know the story about the new girlfriend he got while in prison?

A leopard never changes its spots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Ryt0VowXw

bobsman · 02-11-2018 11:23PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Stop talking sense, it was all a sick conspiracy against poor Steven Avery, they planted the bones, blood and DNA etc..

Does everyone know the story about the new girlfriend he got while in prison?

A leopard never changes its spots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Ryt0VowXw

Is that the "fiancée" who appeared on Dr Phil ????

bobsman · 02-11-2018 11:29PM

It is telling, none of avery's children have anything to do with him.

enfant terrible · 02-11-2018 11:42PM

bobsman wrote: »

Is that the "fianc who appeared on Dr Phil ????

Ya she said he was a sweet little teddy bear when she first met him.

Took a darker turn after that shockingly.

Uncharted · 02-11-2018 11:44PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Ya she said he was a sweet little teddy bear when she first met him.

Took a darker turn after that shockingly.

Im not for a second denying Avery is a unpleasant character but she was a blatant media whore in fairness....

enfant terrible · 02-11-2018 11:52PM

Uncharted wrote: »

Im not for a second denying Avery is a unpleasant character but she was a blatant media whore in fairness....

Not only that he's a rapist and murderer.

Tipsy McSwagger · 02-11-2018 11:54PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Ya she said he was a sweet little teddy bear when she first met him.

Took a darker turn after that shockingly.

Funnily enough she was in the episode I just watched. They made her out to be a golddigger, but she said she was worried about worrying or dark aspects of Stevens personality.

retro:electro · 02-11-2018 11:55PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Not only that he's a rapist and murderer.

Might as well call him a cannibal too, since there’s as much evidence that he charred her up and fried her for dinner as there is that he raped her.

ie none.

enfant terrible · 02-11-2018 11:57PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Funnily enough she was in the episode I just watched. They made her out to be a golddigger, but she said she was worried about worrying or dark aspects of Stevens personality.

Who cares what she was, just glad she was able to show again that Avery is psychotic.

Didn't he also talk to fellow inmates about building a rape dungeon when he got out of prison.

Tipsy McSwagger · 02-11-2018 11:58PM

I don’t mind Zellner at all (so far) but I really can’t stand Brendan’s post conviction attorney. Big stupid smiley head on her.

Tipsy McSwagger · 02-11-2018 11:59PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Who cares what she was, just glad she was able to show again that Avery is psychotic.

Didn't he also talk to fellow inmates about building a rape dungeon when he got out of prison.

No everyone in prison is bad, Steven is good.

enfant terrible · 03-11-2018 12:00AM

retro:electro wrote: »

Might as well call him a cannibal too, since there’s as much evidence that he charred her up and fried her for dinner as there is that he raped her.

ie none.

The guy with the bleach soaked trousers admitted it.

Oh right that confession doesn't count part of the conspiracy isn't it?

Those evil cops should be in jail not Steven Avery.

Surely mam of 4 will agree with that statement.

retro:electro · 03-11-2018 12:04AM

Ah don’t be jealous now just cos no one thanks your posts.

enfant terrible · 03-11-2018 12:06AM

retro:electro wrote: »

Ah don’t be jealous now just cos no one thanks your posts.

So I'm assuming you agree the confession by the soaked in bleach trousers guy doesn't count?

Poor guys they are the real victims in this show.

bobsman · 03-11-2018 12:06AM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I don’t mind Zellner at all (so far) but I really can’t stand Brendan’s post conviction attorney. Big stupid smiley head on her.

She's a ditsy looking clown. Very irritating.

Tipsy McSwagger · 03-11-2018 12:06AM

Mountainsandh wrote: »

I'm re-watching, but I'm skipping all the Brendan case bits, and all the family bits unless I see Barbs mouthing away. I just keep the bits with Zellner
But it's my 2nd time I guess, and now I know a lot more about the family (from my own research) I feel less empathy, and have less patience for the slow sad bits.

It’s a chore alright. I still believe Brendan should have got time, even Barb said this when she addressed the court during sentencing. He’s a victim and Avery is to blame.

Tipsy McSwagger · 03-11-2018 12:07AM

bobsman wrote: »

She's a ditsy looking clown. Very irritating.

The opposite of Zellner she is.

enfant terrible · 03-11-2018 12:09AM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

No everyone in prison is bad, Steven is good.

Ya they are part of the conspiracy too all ganging up on poor Steven.

Can we get a crowd fund going to get him freed, get Trump to pardon him or something?

Tipsy McSwagger · 03-11-2018 12:09AM

enfant terrible wrote: »

So I'm assuming you agree the confession by the soaked in bleach trousers guy doesn't count?

Poor guys they are the real victims in this show.

What’s your opinion on Brendan? I have already stated mine.

Mam of 4 · 03-11-2018 12:09AM

enfant terrible wrote: »

The guy with the bleach soaked trousers admitted it.

Oh right that confession doesn't count part of the conspiracy isn't it?

Those evil cops should be in jail not Steven Avery.

Surely mam of 4 will agree with that statement.

Would you ever get a grip on your griping like a spoilt child who wants everything their own way , and gets the hump with anyone who doesn't agree with them .

Please feel free to report this post if you wish .

retro:electro · 03-11-2018 12:13AM

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Would you ever get a grip on your griping like a spoilt child who wants everything their own way , and gets the hump with anyone who doesn't agree with them .

Please feel free to report this post if you wish .

Just letting you know I thanked your post Mam.

cazzer22 · 03-11-2018 12:14AM

retro:electro wrote: »

Can you link us to what you’ve been reading “from both sides” that proves Brendan was involved? Thanks

Well knock me down with a feather.

MY FAVOURITE COMMENT ON BOARDS, EVER!!!

Mam of 4 · 03-11-2018 12:15AM

retro:electro wrote: »

Just letting you know I thanked your post Mam.

Reciprocated A

retro:electro · 03-11-2018 12:18AM

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Reciprocated A

I see what you’re doing there. “A” for Avery Fan Club Ganghanded Clique Member.

Tipsy McSwagger · 03-11-2018 12:19AM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Ya they are part of the conspiracy too all ganging up on poor Steven.

Can we get a crowd fund going to get him freed, get Trump to pardon him or something?

https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/help-free-steven-avery

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Making A Murderer [Netflix - Documentary Series]

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