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House for life for 55 euro a week.

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    #122
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    I had to draw the dole myself while looking for work but I don't take this thread as a personal attack as I know it's not targeted at people like me that time.

    I used to be the same as folk here - thought the problem was mostly in people's heads, thought people should stop whining... then I ended up in a situation having to deal with these self entitled greedy grabbers. They'd sicken you. The water charges protesters opened my eyes to it also - daily protests because of not working, but videoing themselves on smart phones. Joan Burton was dead right - all that angered them was the truth being told.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    There are tons of rich people who produce absolutely nothing and are "living it up" in every sense. Thomas Piketty's Capitalism in the 21st Century should be required reading for everybody who posts on this subject in After Hours.

    Summary of Piketty, Part 3: inherited capital
    Without capitalism people can't set up their own businesses or just buy stuff when they feel like it. If you're referring to selfishness and greed, I didn't know it was the law to criticise just one group or the other. You can criticise both, and the freeloaders are also greedy, selfish and exploitative.


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    #123
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Deebles McBeebles wrote:
    Yeah. I'm sitting in an office, working. Meanwhile there are people who have more than me who have never gotten up before noon unless they have to sign on early.


    Well when your local TD calls looking for your vote, voice your concern. Considering the reaction form the higher echelons of society to Peter Casey( he got my vote btw), I doubt he/ she will give your opinion any consideration.


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    #124
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    Yeah. I'm sitting in an office, working. Meanwhile there are people who have more than me who have never gotten up before noon unless they have to sign on early.

    would you like a life of lying in the bed till noon and signing on?

    wouldnt hold any appeal for me


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    #125
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    would you like a life of lying in the bed till noon and signing on?

    wouldnt hold any appeal for me

    Yeah cause there isn’t people claiming and working at the same time.


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    #126
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,754 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Well when your local TD calls looking for your vote, voice your concern. Considering the reaction form the higher echelons of society to Peter Casey( he got my vote btw), I doubt he/ she will give your opinion any consideration.

    Course they won't, that's fairly obvious from experience.
    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    would you like a life of lying in the bed till noon and signing on?

    wouldnt hold any appeal for me

    Some Monday mornings, yeah. But mostly no. It really suits some folk though.


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    #127
    Agent Smith
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,502 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Where do i sign up?


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    #128
    Humphrey BoaGart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Humphrey BoaGart


    Delaney Thankful Bathrobe wrote: »
    I had to draw the dole myself while looking for work but I don't take this thread as a personal attack as I know it's not targeted at people like me that time.

    I used to be the same as folk here - thought the problem was mostly in people's heads, thought people should stop whining... then I ended up in a situation having to deal with these self entitled greedy grabbers. They'd sicken you.

    Any examples?


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    #129
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Deebles McBeebles wrote:
    Course they won't, that's fairly obvious from experience.


    Well they are the only ones who can change the system, so vote for someone who has welfare reform as a policy. Assuming any will be brave enough.


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    #130
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,754 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    You're preaching to the choir here.


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    #131
    Paulzx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    would you like a life of lying in the bed till noon and signing on?

    wouldnt hold any appeal for me


    Doesn't appeal to me either.

    But it shouldn't be an option for those who it does appeal to...........


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    #132
    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    whomitconcerns wrote: »
    Why should the children get these homes in succession? That's madness...sure why would they try better themselves...

    You cant hand your house over to your children without incurring hefty gift taxes.

    You also if you want to pay for your nursing home through Fairdeal will have a big sum to be paid back to Revenue if your house is in anyway valuable on paper.

    The person renting the house has no assets so all they pay is eighty per cent of their pension and a percentage of their savings. The big hit for most people is the value of the house and the cost under the Fairdeal can be huge.

    I know council houses which are occupied by one adult person who is going to have this house until they die. Their parent is in the nursing home paying eighty per cent of their pension while another person in the home has to come up with over a thousand euros a week.


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    #133
    PapaOscar
    Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭PapaOscar


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Average household income in Ireland is just over 50K.. in a high cost country

    If you think people are buying homes, raising children and still having multiple foreign holidays a year; you're living in some delusion.

    Obviously some people are. And good for them.


    I think some people dont know how to manage money, i didnt either for years until i met a good woman who knocked some sense into me. Our income would be less then 50k combined per year. We have a mortgage. We are still able to save.

    I find most people that complain about costs are the same people that have no problem buying 4 euro coffees every morning then spending 15 quid on lunch, every day.


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    #134
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,754 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    PapaOscar wrote: »
    I think some people dont know how to manage money, i didnt either for years until i met a good woman who knocked some sense into me. Our income would be less then 50k combined per year. We have a mortgage. We are still able to save.

    I find most people that complain about costs are the same people that have no problem buying 4 euro coffees every morning then spending 15 quid on lunch, every day.

    Myself and my partner earn more than that, no mortgage, savings only topped up occasionally. No expensive coffees or lunches. I manage my money well, always have.

    Its depends where you live/work.


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    #135
    PapaOscar
    Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭PapaOscar


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    Myself and my partner earn more than that, no mortgage, savings only topped up occasionally. No expensive coffees or lunches.

    Its depends where you live/work.

    I live and work in Dublin, what are you spending your money on if you can only top up savings occasionally? ill assume without mortgage you are paying rent?


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    #136
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,754 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Oh yeah big time, probably twice your mortgage if you bought at a good time. Just the usual stuff, food, bills etc etc. Rarely go out, haven't had a proper holiday in 5 years. I'm not looking for pity, just saying its not as easy as your post suggested.


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    #137
    Wheety
    Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well, that's a lie.

    If you are talking of boards.ie of 2001, you may have a point, but boards has and is being taken over by a right wing mentality.

    Most contentious threads will have 2/3 people defending a liberal viewpoint, while the majority of the rest will be attacking it.

    You may say that is representative of Irish Society, but that is blatantly untrue. Look at the boards exit poll of the recent presidential election. https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057923419

    Boards has changed from its nice, socially conscious internet forum, to something much worse. But it is a window into how a minority think.

    Well the users from 2001 are older now, and I believe it's true that, in general, the older you get the more right wing you become.

    I'm not sure how many younger people are signing up to Boards and are active on here compared to the middle-age and older groups. So now you have groups who have contributed tax for most of their lives and paying large mortgages seeing others seemingly getting houses for a pittance and not having to work for it.


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    #138
    LeBash
    Registered Users Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭LeBash


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    I assume this is a legacy issue in that there is a lot of existing social housing stock in the city centre already, therefore that is where people are housed. I presume any new social housing stock coming on line now is not in the city centre.

    Quite a few council houses were bought from the council at extremely low rates. DCC are buying houses in Dublin and handing then out. My neighbour had the house up for 6 months. No takers at 440k and then the council bought it, gutted it and moved a family in.

    They are very nice people but by no means need a house in Dublin. They bring the kids to school in the morning and then go home.

    That same house in a market not propped up by council money might have been 350k which is in the range of quite a few couples. But 350k gets you a house in a suburb of Navan these days.


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    #139
    decky1
    Registered Users Posts: 975 ✭✭✭decky1


    know a girl with one child living at home 250 a week, and another the same with a house and she get's 150 her rent is 65?


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    #140
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A girl living in a Council House in Drogheda, has 2 kids (12 + 16 I believe). Works part time, and claims Social Welfare for days not worked.

    Rent is charged at €25 per week (3 bed semi-detached).


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    #141
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    LeBash wrote: »
    We do need social houses. There are people who genuinely are living in hotels and on the street.

    The 1 annoying thing about it is, people working in Dublin (I'm sure other cities are similar) end up having to move 50+ km away from where they work because they can't afford to compete with their own tax money.

    If someone is in need of social housing and isn't working, then they don't need to be inside the M50 or even Dublin. The person contributing to the social housing ends up with a 3 hour commute each day. That's just plain wrong.
    I know that post has 57 thanks.
    Many many people in social housing work the county has been flooded by cheap workers and wages have collapsed.

    Many people did not get to go to college and there is an army of people with minor disabilities who work in low paying jobs who would be unemployed if they got booted out of the area that has a concentration of these poxy jobs.

    I live in social housing and have always worked I did not get many chances in life and I know many other people like me.

    How do you think your supermarkets garden centres restaurants and bars are going to be staffed and stocked if the people that staff them are thrown down the ****hole of nowhere?

    I have a minor disability that has prevented me from climbing the social ladder but I work my ass off and always have. Do you think I should be kicked down to some ****hole if I happen to lose a job to a place I would never get another?

    Your post had a lot of emotion in it and I am sure it made you feel good and it got plenty of thanks but under closer scrutiny, it has a lot of holes


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    #142
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I want an acre with mine and kennels. I have no horse.


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    #143
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,854 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I've sent them a message. 35yo living at home with my 70+ yo parents. Can't afford rent or a mortgage (again). How do I go about getting a house?

    Let's see how they reply. I'm going to be totally honest with them, and see what kind of 'service' they offer a full time employed single male with no dependants living at home with his elderly parents and not enough left over to rent. Should be interesting.


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    #144
    hmmm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    The rage is building in people, and Casey (a poor candidate who got 20%) is only the start. The real working class in this country, i.e. the lower paid workers, are sick and tired of seeing social welfare and social housing going to people who have never contributed. The working class are not represented by the so-called "left", Labour were always champagne socialists, the hard-left represent the non-working class.

    Fianna Fail used to be the natural home for this group, but they have lost touch. FG are too pompous to represent them, unfortunately, despite the working class actually being a lot closer to them than they think.

    Something changed last week with the Presidential election, and I think the tide is beginning to turn.


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    #145
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,781 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    I've sent them a message. 35yo living at home with my 70+ yo parents. Can't afford rent or a mortgage (again). How do I go about getting a house?

    Let's see how they reply. I'm going to be totally honest with them, and see what kind of 'service' they offer a full time employed single male with no dependants living at home with his elderly parents and not enough left over to rent. Should be interesting.


    Go down to your LA housing office, fill in the forms and join the queue. Simples.


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    #146
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Go down to your LA housing office, fill in the forms and join the queue. Simples.

    And expect a reply sometime around 2030.


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    #147
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,781 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    And expect a reply sometime around 2030.

    Yep. I don't think a 35 yo single male squatting in Tallaght Garda Stn will garner the same amount of sympathy as Ms. Cash.


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    #148
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Yep. I don't think a 35 yo single male squatting in Tallaght Garda Stn will garner the same amount of sympathy as Ms. Cash.

    I think it is safe to say she spent many a night there.
    All the others times she got a room to herself.


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    #149
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    It's the Gresham for these no marks, that'll learn them!

    ...or we could save the tax payer on hotel bills by supplying affordable rentals the state owns?
    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    That’s the bit I don’t get.

    Plus I thought if you present as homeless you can’t jump the q for a social house?!!

    More lies form the media.

    Try it. Seriously, I'd love you to find out rather than going by one off stories...in a media you seemingly don't trust anyway.

    If only Bunny Carr was still with us. Money for the starving in Africa? We'd ask, sure there was one of them there eating a burger outta McDonalds, therefore give none of the nothing Bunny!

    There's generations who grew up in social housing now living in privately owned homes. Half of their kids are on here whinging about people getting social housing ;)


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    #150
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,854 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Oh I know i'm not going to get anything, but I want to see their reply as to why other peoples right to a house is more important than my right to my own house for €55 a week. And i'm saying right, as that seems to be the line Ms. Cash and her ilk are using.


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    #151
    2Mad2BeMad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    I've sent them a message. 35yo living at home with my 70+ yo parents. Can't afford rent or a mortgage (again). How do I go about getting a house?

    Let's see how they reply. I'm going to be totally honest with them, and see what kind of 'service' they offer a full time employed single male with no dependants living at home with his elderly parents and not enough left over to rent. Should be interesting.

    Go on the housing list then when your accepted you can then get the HAP.

    I know more scroungers on the dole then people who genuinely need it.
    I'm sure a lot of people know more scamming the system then in need of it.

    Job seekers allowance needs to have a time limit on it. Say 6 or 12 months if you don't have a job tough **** you lose the dole. It's easy to get a job now there's so much out there you'd have no excuse.
    As regards housing. I'm all for it if you need it but if you are like that girl a while back who slept in the guarda station with all her kids then cried about it while robbing penny's a few weeks later. You should be sterilized from having kids and have your current kids taken off you. Popping them out when you know your current situation is that you simple can't afford them so rely on the state to help you is ridiculous.
    I ****ing despise mothers and fathers like this what type of parents are yous to bring children into this world when you know you can't give them a good upbringing
    What ever about having 1 kid by mistake but having 3 and 4 when you don't have a penny to your name.
    Where too soft in this country
    Give the slackers a boot up the hole they either work or live off nothing.

    Like I said I'm all for genuine people who need it
    People who fell on hard times with kids
    But the lifers need to be axed
    And again I'd bet my ****ing life on it that there is a lot more then a (small mimority) screwing the system youd have to be blind to think its mostly honest people on it. Id guess 50/50 at least based off who I know is screwing it and who needs it unfortunately it's a stat no one will ever know


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