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Cannabis - It must be time for legality.

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  • Site Banned Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Balanadan


    Cannabis should be kept illegal because it makes people boring. There's nothing more boring than listening to someone drone on about legalising cannabis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Balanadan wrote: »
    Cannabis should be kept illegal because it makes people boring. There's nothing more boring than listening to someone drone on about legalising cannabis.

    You're boring, and you should be made illegal. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    CBD oil is legal in Ireland/everywhere. Anyone find it any good?


  • Site Banned Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Balanadan


    But if it was legalised nobody would be talking about legalising it :confused:
    These people would find something else to drone on about, only the drone would be louder.


  • Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    Can't stand weed junkies.
    My neighbour there is a stink of weed from his apartment from 8 in the ****ing morning.
    Waster needs to get a job.

    Maybe he works from home?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    Balanadan wrote: »
    Cannabis should be kept illegal because it makes people boring. There's nothing more boring than listening to someone drone on about legalising cannabis.

    Says he, posting on a thread about legalising cannabis..

    Strangely enough, I initially read your post in a Ray Barone voice..

    It's stuck in my head now..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    Can't stand weed junkies.
    My neighbour there is a stink of weed from his apartment from 8 in the ****ing morning.
    Waster needs to get a job.

    I'd prefer a weed 'junky' neighbour than an alcoholic neighbour or a coke head neighbour or a heroin junky neighbour every single time.

    People who are going to be junkies are going to be junkies. I'd much rather their drug of choice was weed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller Returns




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    nozzferrahhtoo I found an article you might be interested in...

    Or put another way "I can not reply to your previous questions/points/arguments/posts so here is a hand wavey distraction to deflect from that".

    I am not sure why you would think anything written by the less intelligent Hitchens would interest me. But it might surprise you to know I already read that article in the past.

    And I remembered enough of it to suspect all your "arguments" on this thread were merely lifted from it and you were making no original points of your own.

    Especially when you trotted out, almost verbatim, his "No, correlation is not *necessarily* causation. But it is not necessarily *not* causation either" quote from it the other day. He even misrepresents, in almost exactly the same way you did, the argument about how and why we think a legal product would impact the criminals market. He even derides business men, just like you did. He even used the same phrase you did "cynical businessmen". It is like a 1:1 mapping of the things you presented on the thread basically.

    So why should it interest me when it contains basically all the same things you have already plagarized from it, and I have rebutted, and you have run away from?

    If you think there is a specific point in the entire article you have not already made, and could benefit from consideration, however.... then by all means quote it, cite it, or point me to it. I am not seeing anything I have not dealt with already there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,072 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Balanadan wrote: »
    Cannabis should be kept illegal because it makes people boring. There's nothing more boring than listening to someone drone on about legalising cannabis.


    they should make veganism illegal so.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller Returns


    Or put another way "I can not reply to your previous questions/points/arguments/posts so here is a hand wavey distraction to deflect from that".

    I am not sure why you would think anything written by the less intelligent Hitchens would interest me. But it might surprise you to know I already read that article in the past.

    And I remembered enough of it to suspect all your "arguments" on this thread were merely lifted from it and you were making no original points of your own.

    Especially when you trotted out, almost verbatim, his "No, correlation is not *necessarily* causation. But it is not necessarily *not* causation either" quote from it the other day. He even misrepresents, in almost exactly the same way you did, the argument about how and why we think a legal product would impact the criminals market. He even derides business men, just like you did. He even used the same phrase you did "cynical businessmen". It is like a 1:1 mapping of the things you presented on the thread basically.

    So why should it interest me when it contains basically all the same things you have already plagarized from it, and I have rebutted, and you have run away from?

    If you think there is a specific point in the entire article you have not already made, and could benefit from consideration, however.... then by all means quote it, cite it, or point me to it. I am not seeing anything I have not dealt with already there.

    Actually, you're wrong. You're uber confidence makes me blush. I only came across that article today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭Pixelbastardo


    As a doctor working in mental health services and having acquired in depth knowledge and clinical experience around people using and abusing cannabis, I would be very much against it's use.

    Even a single joint can lead to psychosis in a susceptible person (& far too many susceptible person out there now). Not too mention risk of addiction, psychological and physical dependence. There is little evidence on use of cannabis oil in certain conditions, but inhalation and oral use cannabis is dangerous.

    In short, involved risks outweighs benefits.

    Is that the right use of "too" doctor?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Schwanz


    Is that the right use of "too" doctor?

    Spelling Police maybe in need of something stronger than a Silk Cut?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Given masterboy123 is a doctor, I'm just relieved he doesn't post in wingdings font.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Actually, you're wrong. You're uber confidence makes me blush. I only came across that article today

    I simply do not believe that to be honest. But it is not for me to say. I will leave others to read the article, read your posts, and notice the string of remarkable similarities both from exact turns of phrase, to misrepresenting my points in the exact way he misrepresents those same posts.

    But, as expected, when asked for a specific point in the article you think has not yet been addressed or is somehow interesting you responded with..... well..... as usual.... nothing at all. So save your feux embarrassment for yourself.


  • Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Another article from Science Based Medicine on the lack of any real evidence of medical benefits.

    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/marijuana-beliefs-outstrip-evidence/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Schwanz


    One things for certain, the stuff will give you the most amazing deep sleep ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,172 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Fracture


    I'm only seeing this thread now and there's too much to read. Maybe it's been spoken about already in this thread but i'm just wondering, is legalization being talked about at all? I haven't seen or heard of it in the news or heard of it being talked about in the Dail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Been living in Toronto for the last month, and even on the day it was legalised you'd barely notice for the most part.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Schwanz wrote: »
    One things for certain, the stuff will give you the most amazing deep sleep ever.

    Try giving it up and see what your sleep is like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    Fracture wrote: »
    I'm only seeing this thread now and there's too much to read. Maybe it's been spoken about already in this thread but i'm just wondering, is legalization being talked about at all? I haven't seen or heard of it in the news or heard of it being talked about in the Dail.

    Leo has expressed an interest in re-examining the law.

    That said Leo says a lot of things..

    I wonder did Justin Trudeau send him a pair of cannabis leaf socks to celebrate the occasion.

    Either way it’s a ridiculous law and widely ignored.

    It’s only a matter of time before we eventually see the futility in wasting money attempting to ban a flower that does way less harm then tobacco and alcohol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Rennaws wrote: »
    Leo has expressed an interest in re-examining the law.

    That said Leo says a lot of things..

    I wonder did Justin Trudeau send him a pair of cannabis leaf socks to celebrate the occasion.

    Either way it’s a ridiculous law and widely ignored.

    It’s only a matter of time before we eventually see the futility in wasting money attempting to ban a flower that does way less harm then tobacco and alcohol.

    We all know the dangers (or lack thereof) of said drug is nothing to do with it's legal status.

    Anyway. Devil's advocate here: it's not that long since we saw the headshops being closed forcibly. Has that mentality/pressure group gone away or what? I say this because, other than pure ignorance (not that there's much of a difference, I know) that's one of the strongest obstacles I can see blocking the path.

    (That and the wonderously health-sensitive vintners ass)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Fracture


    Try giving it up and see what your sleep is like

    I normally have a smoke from time to time, i haven't smoked it since July. My sleep isn't as good since. It definitely gives you a deeper sleep, saying that i'd be a bit hazey for a few hours the next day after i get up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Fracture


    We all know the dangers (or lack thereof) of said drug is nothing to do with it's legal status.

    Anyway. Devil's advocate here: it's not that long since we saw the headshops being closed forcibly. Has that mentality/pressure group gone away or what? I say this because, other than pure ignorance (not that there's much of a difference, I know) that's one of the strongest obstacles I can see blocking the path.

    (That and the wonderously health-sensitive vintners ass)

    The stuff being sold in the head shops was dangerous tho, didn't a few people die from that garbage they sold? maybe i'm mistaken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    The above is simply not true, it does not give you a better sleep either does alcohol,
    Its a different kind of sleep than normal sleep its a sedated sleep which in the long term is horrifically bad for you .,

    You do not reach REM (dream sleep ) from Drinking or smoking sleep , your body needs REM so much so that if you don't get it during sleep and deprive it from your body long enough you will start to get it when you are awake,
    Have you ever seen a homeless wineo in a park talking to himself and shouting at nothing, That's caused by never getting his dream sleep due to alcohol abuse so he is hallucinating during the day,

    Almost all weed smoker who quite report that they start to have crazy vivid dreams when they sleep. Its due to never getting to the required depth of sleep while smoking weed,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Fracture


    The above is simply not true, it does not give you a better sleep either does alcohol,
    Its a different kind of sleep than normal sleep its a sedated sleep which in the long term is horrifically bad for you .,

    You do not reach REM (dream sleep ) from Drinking or smoking sleep , your body needs REM so much so that if you don't get it during sleep and deprive it from your body long enough you will start to get it when you are awake,
    Have you ever seen a homeless wineo in a park talking to himself and shouting at nothing, That's caused by never getting his dream sleep due to alcohol abuse so he is hallucinating during the day,

    Almost all weed smoker who quite report that they start to have crazy vivid dreams when they sleep. Its due to never getting to the required depth of sleep while smoking weed,

    I've been smoking weed since i was about 16 or 17, some of those years i had a smoke most days of the week. Everything you have just said has not been experienced by me. I get a great nights sleep after having a smoke. I don't know where you read that but it's news to me and it could well be true in some cases.

    Would this be your justification for keeping cannabis illegal?


  • Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Anyway. Devil's advocate here: it's not that long since we saw the headshops being closed forcibly.

    Headshops had such a negative impact on illegal drug dealers' profits that they resorted to firebombing them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Why we sleep = Matthew Walker,

    No i say make it legal
    These are side effect for people who abuse Cannabis and Alcohol ,
    If your an adult and responsible there shouldn't be an issue,

    You can abuse food and become obese i don't see anyone calling for food to be banned,
    You can drive a car into a ditch or a bunch of people,
    There are a hundred things in life you can abuse and they will cause problems that are not banned,
    Its all about being a responsible adult.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 814 ✭✭✭debok


    We all know the dangers (or lack thereof) of said drug is nothing to do with it's legal status.

    Anyway. Devil's advocate here: it's not that long since we saw the headshops being closed forcibly. Has that mentality/pressure group gone away or what? I say this because, other than pure ignorance (not that there's much of a difference, I know) that's one of the strongest obstacles I can see blocking the path.

    (That and the wonderously health-sensitive vintners ass)

    Head shops sold synthetic **** . There should be some form of legalisation but as you said ignorance will stop it. My parents would be of the mind that cannabis is similar to heroin and you would be surprised how many people think that. In Ireland most people smoke cannabis mixed with tobacco and its the tobacco that causes most of the issues. Stop the tobacco and its way better. Obviously smoking anything is bad for lungs but without tobacco its much better. Also the cravings you get when you give up are can be more for the tobacco not the cannabis


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