Cannabis - It must be time for legality.

Arrival wrote: »

Which is why people that try to argue against legalisation by saying "I know someone who smoked cannabis everyday and they're zombies now" are the biggest cretins going. ANY drug when not enjoyed occasionally is going to have negative consequences. This is NOT a strong argument against legalisation as the majority of adults are good, responsible people who will be able to consume it without going overboard every single day just the same way many adults choose to have a few cans some evenings each week to unwind. We should all be made well educated on the topic of drugs and given the freedom to make our own choices with our bodies, not treated like children.

Cretins? Nah. Wildly uninformed? Yes.

However when they try to claim "it's completely different from alcohol, nobody would say to drink every day!" while trying to infer that is the case for all cannabis use, then they enter cretin territory.

Dramatik wrote: »

The problem with all these cases you hear of people going mad after smoking weed is that there is no guarantee in Ireland that the weed you are smoking is actually weed or if it is, the quality of it, unless you actually know the person who grew it. The reality in Ireland is that the majority of dealers won't know for definite what the exact strain that they are selling is or whether it's a indica or sativa, they'll just be told it's whatever is popular at the time, like kush, amnesia haze or cheese.

There's a lot of things that can go wrong when growing weed such as fertilizer not being flushed out properly etc. do you think a dealer will honestly care? Of course not they are purely in it for the money. Weed can get moldy pretty easily and some of the places where this weed is being stored wouldn't be exactly clean or even dry. All this and many more variables can effect the weed, so I don't think it's really fair to 100% blame weed for these cases, it's like like saying ban alcohol because someone lost their mind but in reality it isn't known whether the person was drinking window cleaner or vodka.

I believe it is mainly poor quality product or product that has been tampered with along the way, that causes th majority of these cases.

You've almost hit the nail on the head. A massive contributor to the mental health issues people experience due to their cannabis consumption is the fact that there is absolutely no regulations surrounding the THC to CBD content. It's been found that strains high in THC with a decent quantity of CBD still allows for a comfortable high with very little negative effects whereas most strains of cannabis consumers would be able to get their hands on these days are specifically bred to maximise THC (this is what causes the high, by the way for anyone unaware). The illegal growers and dealers simply want the highest THC content to maximise the room they have available for smuggling. With legalisation and regulation, it would be far more easy to prevent people from getting harmfully strong strains of cannabis. As I've said in another post, it's the equivalent of having the option to have a few cans or downing har liquor; most people don't want to unwind by downing hard liquor and they can avoid this by simply going into their off license and reading the labels on the bottles/containers. This same process can, and must, be done with cannabis. There are some absolutely fantastic strains of cannabis out there and it's actually sad that people haven't been able to experience them instead of the disastrously potent strains that made them believe that cannabis isn't for them. I don't even smoke cannabis here in Ireland anymore because of this issue. America spoiled me and showed me just how bad the situation here is.

Arrival wrote: »

You've almost hit the nail on the head. A massive contributor to the mental health issues people experience due to their cannabis consumption is the fact that there is absolutely no regulations surrounding the THC to CBD content. It's been found that strains high in THC with a decent quantity of CBD still allows for a comfortable high with very little negative effects whereas most strains of cannabis consumers would be able to get their hands on these days are specifically bred to maximise THC (this is what causes the high, by the way for anyone unaware). The illegal growers and dealers simply want the highest THC content to maximise the room they have available for smuggling.

And from what I understand most of the medicinal benefits tend to be from CBD making most of the stuff currently on the streets especially ill suited to medicinal use.

Although there seems to be a lot of uncertainty yet as to quite why it seems to have beneficial properties for some things.

As I understand it it's a very complex plant, full of highly complex chemicals that so far have been very poorly studied.

Gorgeousgeorge wrote: »

i agree it is weak, any dealers in my area are that are well know are spongers that are on benefits that wont work. how will they supplement the income lost after.

well....depending on what form legalization would take and what regulations that come with it....they could grow weed? :pac:

If you look at a place like Colorado all kinds of new homegrown (:D) businesses have sprung up since they legalized

al87987 wrote: »

i've never used any other drug except Mushroom shakes in Thailand so I don't think its a gateway drug at all.

That's great for you
But I don't know one addict that started off with heroine as their first drug.
There's plenty of young people buried in my local graveyard, kids I went to school with, that lost their souls to that sh!t and every single one of them started off with 'just a joint'

So to say its not a gateway drug is bullsh!t.