After Hours Presidential Election Poll

AudreyHepburn · 27-10-2018 9:51am

Such anger and bitterness on show here. Folks Michael D won and rightfully so. He is only one of the six who truly understands what the presidency is and what it entails. And he’s been a wonderful president and represented us brilliantly at home and abroad.

Yes Casey said what we all think including me but can we please stop deluding ourselves that he was some revolutionary messiah that was going to sweep in and magically fix all our problems.

The presidency is a ceremonial role and Casey just wasn’t the man for the job. One outspoken statement, absolutely correct thought it may be, does not make a man a president.

27-10-2018 9:53am

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Pretty terrible results for sinn fein with half thier last popular vote.

Not quite sure who SF expected to vote for them when your one came out and said she'd wear the British poppy. Stupid fúcking idiots.

fxotoole · 27-10-2018 9:53am

strettyend wrote: »

Great isnt it? We have now voted for the poison dwarf to be president for the next 7 years so he can fly around in his lear jet, stay in expensive hotels, have his garden parties, couldnt be arsed to attend all the debates and would not come clean on his expensives while people sleep homeless, health service is a joke, lying on hospital trollies and we the taxpayer have paid for this parasite to spend another term in office living the life of luxury with a huge salary. is it any wonder the country is fcuked?

If anyone else were President, they’d all have the same criticisms about spending levelled at them.

The President has no power to change anything about homelessness, or the health service.

If you can’t grasp these concepts, you really shouldn’t be voting.

greendom · 27-10-2018 9:53am

blinding wrote: »

Ya see very quickly how lefties go very Facist when you disagree with them and it also has been known to happen when they get power .

The National Socialists were not called National Socialists for nothing .

Like the GDR (German Democratic Republic), East Germany was not called Democratic for nothing.

Think the Germans like their ironic political titles.

Beechwoodspark · 27-10-2018 9:57am

Some apologist for traveller crimes on morning Ireland at the moment.

Disgusting to hear ppl apologising for criminality and anti social behaviour.

27-10-2018 9:58am

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Pretty terrible results for sinn fein with half thier last popular vote.

I'm surprised they got that much. Not sure who they expected to vote for them when they decided their candidate would say she'd wear the British poppy. Stupid fúcking idiots.

Beechwoodspark · 27-10-2018 10:00am

SF candidate was dreadful. Wouldn’t let her run a p1ss up in a brewery

fxotoole · 27-10-2018 10:03am

blinding wrote: »

Ya see very quickly how lefties go very Facist when you disagree with them and it also has been known to happen when they get power .

The National Socialists were not called National Socialists for nothing .

Go read a history book. The Nazis coopted the term “Socialist” to make themselves look appealing to left-leaning people.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

27-10-2018 10:06am

greendom wrote: »

Like the GDR (German Democratic Republic), East Germany was not called Democratic for nothing.

Think the Germans like their ironic political titles.

Well, the 'Progressive Democrats' weren't exactly 'progressive'... Fine Gael has usually been more Fine Gall, especially under John Bruton...Labour is far closer to smoked salmon socialist than to the poorest in society...

thecomedian · 27-10-2018 10:06am

fxotoole wrote: »

Go read a history book. The Nazis coopted the term “Socialist” to make themselves look appealing to left-leaning people.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

There is very little difference between the extreme right and the extreme left.

Beechwoodspark · 27-10-2018 10:09am

Hope Casey sets up a political party now

So many ppl want an alternative to gobsh1te varadkar or gobsh1te Mickey Martin

Come on peter do it

fxotoole · 27-10-2018 10:14am

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Such anger and bitterness on show here. Folks Michael D won and rightfully so. He is only one of the six who truly understands what the presidency is and what it entails. And he’s been a wonderful president and represented us brilliantly at home and abroad.

Yes Casey said what we all think including me but can we please stop deluding ourselves that he was some revolutionary messiah that was going to sweep in and magically fix all our problems.

The presidency is a ceremonial role and Casey just wasn’t the man for the job. One outspoken statement, absolutely correct thought it may be, does not make a man a president.

Couldn’t agree more with this.

Higgins was the only choice. He has demonstrated an understanding of the role; something that none of the other candidates did. Higgins is statesmanlike, none of the other candidates were. He has a proven track record of representing the Irish at home and abroad.

Peter Casey playing to people’s fears and insecurities is not what the Presidential role is about. The President should unite, not divide. He very clearly doesn’t understand the role. Or worse, doesn’t care.

Leaving that aside, his comments about social welfare clearly shows he doesn’t understand what powers the President has.

The rest of the candidates were just fluff who utterly failed to impress

fxotoole · 27-10-2018 10:15am

thecomedian wrote: »

There is very little difference between the extreme right and the extreme left.

Maybe so, but Nazis are by definition not Socialists

fxotoole · 27-10-2018 10:17am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not quite sure who SF expected to vote for them when your one came out and said she'd wear the British poppy. Stupid fúcking idiots.

I actually thought that was about leaving SF’s old image behind and trying to project an all-inclusive image for SF’s candidate

Tell me how · 27-10-2018 10:20am

fxotoole wrote: »

I actually thought that was about leaving SF’s old image behind and trying to project an all-inclusive image for SF’s candidate

Yeah, me too. I think SF used this election with the GE in mind and tried to use Liadh to broadcast a party message nationally.
I don't think it worked for them, they are left battered and bloody this morning.

MintyMagnum · 27-10-2018 10:22am

Conservative wrote: »

It's an interesting debate but it's all about how you position yourself. If your job is to maximise donations and you are paid an appropriate salary based on fundraising it is fine with me but when you claim to be charitable and are taking pay well in excess of what an average person earns from said charity you are taking the piss in my view.

You are charitable or you are not. She doesn't come close to qualifying in my opinion.

Joan Freeman set up Pieta House, created it because of the severe lack of mental health support in this country - yet huge rate of suicide. I believe she took on personal debt ie remortgaged her house to do that.
I would consider that more charitable than the fat cats who make 'generous donations' & are thought of as great fellas but avoid being tax resident & can write off said donations against tax. Or the foreign investment funds who avail of 'charity' status to circumvent tax laws here.
She put her money where her mouth was when it mattered. When it wasn't cool. When it involved personal risk. I'm sure she didn't get paid by the hour for all the time she put into it. And if she was that well off from Pieta House she could have solely financed her own campaign surely. Fair play is what I say.
And no I didn't give her my first preference vote.

blinding · 27-10-2018 10:39am

francois wrote: »

Nazis put lefties into concentration camps, learn some history

How many Lefties did they suck into their National SOCIALIST Party .

When they got power we found out what their form of Socialism was .

blinding · 27-10-2018 10:41am

fxotoole wrote: »

Go read a history book. The Nazis coopted the term “Socialist” to make themselves look appealing to left-leaning people.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

Many parties do this . How do you know that some ‘ Leftist ' Parties are not doing it now ?

blinding · 27-10-2018 10:42am

thecomedian wrote: »

There is very little difference between the extreme right and the extreme left.

Especially when the Left get in to power .

blinding · 27-10-2018 10:44am

fxotoole wrote: »

Maybe so, but Nazis are by definition not Socialists

They drew a lot of people into their party with their National Socialism . Socialism was a big hook for them . Its worrying what some of these leftist parties can turn into .

Mookie Blaylock · 27-10-2018 10:49am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not quite sure who SF expected to vote for them when your one came out and said she'd wear the British poppy. Stupid fúcking idiots.

It's all about inclusion, the days of hatred are gone, thankfully.

humberklog · 27-10-2018 11:07am

At the very least Casey made one of the blandest elections I can remember a little more interesting.

Mookie Blaylock · 27-10-2018 11:10am

What happens if Miggledy passss away a year or 2 into his second term, do we have another election?
A bit macarbe, but I genuinely don't know the protocol.

Harry Palmr · 27-10-2018 11:21am

Yes. There is no vice president and the "first lady" does not get the gig!

edit maybe no - when Childers died in 1974 it was a stitch up between the parties who put in Cearbhall Ó Dálaigh, I doubt that they'd try that now.

Didn't realise Casey is not tax resident in Ireland, somehow that sends the wrong signal.

greendom · 27-10-2018 11:30am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Hope Casey sets up a political party now

So many ppl want an alternative to gobsh1te varadkar or gobsh1te Mickey Martin

Come on peter do it

I'm all for a protest vote. But picking on the marginalised in society is not the way to do.it.

But anything to clear out the FF/FG hegemony is likely to get my vote

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 11:32am

greendom wrote: »

I'm all for a protest vote. But picking on the marginalised in society is not the way to do.it.

But anything to clear out the FF/FG hegemony is lokely to get my vote

I'm actually enjoying the posts since Casey did so well.
I'd say the Boards.ie doctors and psychologists are very busy this morning.

blinding · 27-10-2018 11:38am

Mookie Blaylock wrote: »

What happens if Miggledy passss away a year or 2 into his second term, do we have another election?
A bit macarbe, but I genuinely don't know the protocol.

The King and Queen of the Travellers can step in . Casey has been going great guns in Rathkeale . I wonder is that the non travellers voting though :eek:

dudara · 27-10-2018 11:41am

Mookie Blaylock wrote: »

What happens if Miggledy passss away a year or 2 into his second term, do we have another election?
A bit macarbe, but I genuinely don't know the protocol.

We will have another election. There is no automatic successor to the President of Ireland. In the interim period between the death & the election, the duties of the President are carried out by a small committee (IIRC the Ceann Comhairle, The head of the Seanad and some others).

AndrewJRenko · 27-10-2018 11:41am

blinding wrote: »

They drew a lot of people into their party with their National Socialism . Socialism was a big hook for them . Its worrying what some of these leftist parties can turn into .

Eh, no, socialism was nothing to do with the Nazis. But nice try at Trump style fake news. If you keep repeating something often enough, some idiots will fall for it.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Some apologist for traveller crimes on morning Ireland at the moment.

Disgusting to hear ppl apologising for criminality and anti social behaviour.

What are you doing about the huge problem of the vast majority of criminality done by the settled community?

strettyend wrote: »

Using a jet is one thing but using it to go a 100 miles up the road when we have the m1 motorway that gets you there in an hour or so? come off it! Regarding paying irish taxes i think he clarified this matter quite clearly if you listened to the debates. The only person who is laughing is higgins and you my friend are paying for it along with thousands of other taxpayers!

Do you think that he got his jollies by getting a jet, really? Do you think that given the choice between a 2 hour approx drive by your own chauffeur in your own car, and heading to an airport, waiting, changing onto the plane, waiting, taking a short flight of 20 or 30 minutes, then waiting, then getting out, then finding your car or another car again - he would really be stamping his feet in a tantrum to take the jet?

fergus1001 wrote: »

Peter Casey said he would let a council each month donate his salary to charity

Let them eat cake.

strettyend wrote: »

Great isnt it? We have now voted for the poison dwarf to be president for the next 7 years so he can fly around in his lear jet, stay in expensive hotels, have his garden parties, couldnt be arsed to attend all the debates and would not come clean on his expensives while people sleep homeless, health service is a joke, lying on hospital trollies and we the taxpayer have paid for this parasite to spend another term in office living the life of luxury with a huge salary. is it any wonder the country is fcuked?

Beware the ire of a Shinner spurned by the electorate. Half the reason that the 'country is fcuked' is down to those people who haven't got a clue what they are actually voting for.

Beechwoodspark · 27-10-2018 11:42am

Casey’s traveller comments recap

He disagrees with them being recognized as a ethnic minority.

Says they avoid tax and that house prices drop when travelers move onto an area.

Says they camp on other ppl’s land.

Says the Tipperary situation with travelers demanding stables with their new houses is ridiculous.

Quote:

He cited an ongoing dispute in Tipperary where six new homes are lying empty in a €1.7m development because families living on an unauthorised site nearby are refusing to move in until they get stables for horses.

“I mean how ridiculous have we become as a society where they are turning down beautiful, four-bedroom houses because there’ll blackmailing the county council into giving them stables for their horses.

“I’m sorry, there’s something seriously wrong with society when we’re at that stage,” Mr Casey said.

Nothing overly controversial there.

After Hours Presidential Election Poll

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