After Hours Exit Poll

JMNolan · 26-10-2018 03:55PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

There are 6 candidates total.

What is the preference for Casey being the "protest vote"

Genuine question.

Michael D / Labour not in government. Career politician, comes across a well educated.

Sean Gallagher has FF roots I think

Ni Riada is SF
Duffy - I don't think has any political links, but not a great driving history

Freeman, as far as I know is independent senator. known for Pieta House

Casey . Only lived here a few years. Doesn't like the travellers. Not much evidence of paying tax

Would it be fair to say that in your mind there is no "valid" reason to vote for Peter Casey and you are just looking for people to pick on?

kneemos · 26-10-2018 03:56PM

A protest vote for what?

RobertKK · 26-10-2018 03:56PM

Akrasia wrote: »

I would be mortified as an Irish person if Casey won.

We've been doing so well showing the world that we're a progressive modern society, and then go and elect a guy to the office of president purely on the basis of him hating travellers

It't not like he could do anything about them anyway, just remind us all every single time he appears in public, that he's there because of mutual hatred of a defined group of people.

It is not about hating Travellers. Free speech is under danger from everything becoming more and more PC, if you hold the ‘wrong’ view as in it not promoted by the media or it is is something kept quiet, then one is condemned and it is like a measure to try and silence people.
People are getting fed up of that and Peter Casey is who one would vote for if they believe in free speech.
We had 5 candidates who towed the PC line to avoid criticism, and 1 who didn’t and got condemned for saying what he believed rather than saying what the media types and liberals wanted to hear.
The same media who promoted a stunt by a Traveller and championed her but strangely quiet when their heroine was charged for theft.
Hating people is wrong, but covering up problems in any group of people does no one any favours.

B0jangles · 26-10-2018 03:56PM

Casey is like someone doing a Trump impression on Liveline's 'Funny Friday'; he's like the RTE version of 'Dancing with the Stars'.

He's an embarrassingly bad copy of something that was already a pile of ****e.

MDH #1
Yes

Akrasia · 26-10-2018 03:56PM

Gravelly wrote: »

I'd be far more mortified if a guy with a track record of publicly praising murderous dictators won. Different priorities I suppose.

People aren't voting for Michael D because they approve of his stance on Fidel Castro. They're voting for him because he looks like a leprechaun and can speak irish.

People who vote for Casey are doing so, overwhelmingly, because they share a mutual dislike of the travelling community

Hurrache · 26-10-2018 03:56PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

One of the media groups, across 13 newspapers showed strong support for Casey. Not scientific, but shows there’s more than AH behind him

The Times Ireland claims it's because of organised interference by alt-right groups.

26-10-2018 03:57PM

Akrasia wrote: »

There were 4 other people on the ballot other than Mickey and Casey if people want to give 2 fingers to the establishment, but as far as I can see, the only reason people like Casey is because they are glad he said something politically incorrect about the travellers.

He pointed out that 6 houses are being left idle in Tipperary in the middle of a housing crisis. Called a spade a spade.

And he spoke honestly by saying he wouldn't want to live next door to travellers. The other 5 candidates lied blatantly on national tv when asked the same question.

He also pointed out that the squeezed middle didn't receive much by way of tax cuts in the recent budget.

Casey #1

Vincent Vega · 26-10-2018 03:58PM

Reminder to all my fellow headCaseys who have yet to vote to put a big 'ol X in Peter's box and nothing for the other five so they don't stand no chance at all.

MIGA

Donald Trump · 26-10-2018 03:58PM

downtheroad wrote: »

I voted Casey because he is somebody who has the courage to speak freely, and his comments regarding travellers were not racist as people like to believe. I was going to give MDH a 2nd preference at the start of this week but after watching him on the RTE debate and then him not bothering to turn up for the Cooper/Yeats show debate I left him off of my voting slip this morning.

You chose your head of state representative based off the fact that he "has the courage to speak freely". And you based that off the fact that he made some comment a week or two ago that was kinda blown out of proportion and led him to go for broke and moan about dole spongers etc.

That's fair enough, but surely a man who has the courage to speak freely has other similar examples of doing so? Especially given that he had a reasonably public profile in advance of the election.

And the head of state of the country cannot be someone who mouths off randomly.

Agricola · 26-10-2018 03:58PM

I suspect for Casey to win, under 35's with a penchant for taking the piss would have to turn out in droves to steer it away from Mickey D. Since that won't happen and it will probably be mainly old folks (like me) voting, then it's two terms for MDH.

Assetbacked · 26-10-2018 03:58PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

There are 6 candidates total.

What is the preference for Casey being the "protest vote"

Genuine question.

Michael D / Labour not in government. Career politician, comes across a well educated.

Sean Gallagher has FF roots I think

Ni Riada is SF
Duffy - I don't think has any political links, but not a great driving history

Freeman, as far as I know is independent senator. known for Pieta House

Casey . Only lived here a few years. Doesn't like the travellers. Not much evidence of paying tax

Casey said nothing incorrect about travellers and the outrage from the other candidates showed them up to be simple and out of touch.

hometruths · 26-10-2018 03:59PM

Hurrache wrote: »

The Times Ireland claims it's because of organised interference by alt-right groups.

Seriously? DO you have a link?

Gravelly · 26-10-2018 03:59PM

Akrasia wrote: »

People aren't voting for Michael D because they approve of his stance on Fidel Castro. They're voting for him because he looks like a leprechaun and can speak irish.

People who vote for Casey are doing so, overwhelmingly, because they share a mutual dislike of the travelling community

I voted for him because I believe in rewarding honesty, and punishing the chilling effect of political correctness.

spurshero · 26-10-2018 03:59PM

Voted Casey 1

Assetbacked · 26-10-2018 03:59PM

Hurrache wrote: »

The Times Ireland claims it's because of organised interference by alt-right groups.

Haha surely they didn't?!

kneemos · 26-10-2018 04:00PM

Agricola wrote: »

I suspect for Casey to win, under 35's with a penchant for taking the piss would have to turn out in droves to steer it away from Mickey D. Since that won't happen and it will probably be mainly old folks (like me) voting, then it's two terms for MDH.

You don't think some of the older generation don't share his views?

Donald Trump · 26-10-2018 04:00PM

JMNolan wrote: »

Would it be fair to say that in your mind there is no "valid" reason to vote for Peter Casey and you are just looking for people to pick on?

No, I'm not looking to "pick on" anyone.

Genuinely surprised at the numbers online here saying they voted for him. I don't know what he has done to justify it. Some of the others haven't done too much either but there is a definite cluster for Casey

So I'm asking why they voted for him. In other words, convince me to give him my vote later on if you can.

Hurrache · 26-10-2018 04:00PM

schmittel wrote: »

Seriously? DO you have a link?

You can read it here
https://twitter.com/thetimesIE/status/1055581825500958720?s=19

Jackman25 · 26-10-2018 04:01PM

#1 Casey.
Yes in other thing.

26-10-2018 04:02PM

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Reminder to all my fellow headCaseys who have yet to vote to put a big 'ol X in Peter's box and nothing for the other five so they don't stand no chance at all.

MIGA

Don't put an X, that's a spoiled vote.

CrowdedHouse · 26-10-2018 04:02PM

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Reminder to all my fellow headCaseys who have yet to vote to put a big 'ol X in Peter's box and nothing for the other five so they don't stand no chance at all.

MIGA

That would come under scrutiny as a spoiled vote

Donald Trump · 26-10-2018 04:03PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

Casey said nothing incorrect about travellers and the outrage from the other candidates showed them up to be simple and out of touch.

So you are voting for him based on that one statement?

You are entitled to do that. But it's a bit silly in my opinion. It would be a bit like choosing an architect for your house based on the choice of English soccer team he supports.

Hurrache · 26-10-2018 04:03PM

downtheroad wrote: »

Don't put an X, that's a spoiled vote.

If only one candidate is selected they'll accept an X.

Silentcorner · 26-10-2018 04:03PM

Akrasia wrote: »

I would be mortified as an Irish person if Casey won.

We've been doing so well showing the world that we're a progressive modern society, and then go and elect a guy to the office of president purely on the basis of him hating travellers

It't not like he could do anything about them anyway, just remind us all every single time he appears in public, that he's there because of mutual hatred of a defined group of people.

That is the Irish mentality in a nutshell...as long as everyone loves us it's all good.

I find that insecurity nauseating.

We have a deeply dysfunctional state, we cannot provide affordable accomodation for our citizens, we cannot provide decent healthcare for our citizens, we do not protect our citizens from the actions of unaccountable powerful figures within our State Institutions, including rogue elements ie. Martin Callanan, we have a highly centralised state which makes the entire apparatus of the state very vulnerable to group think. We have a very unique and outdated political system that essentially requires all political parties to attempt to please all the citizens all the time!

On the surface this country is idyllic but only scratch the surface and you'll see the consequences of all that dysfunction.

Speak Now · 26-10-2018 04:03PM

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Reminder to all my fellow headCaseys who have yet to vote to put a big 'ol X in Peter's box and nothing for the other five so they don't stand no chance at all.

MIGA

Spoiled vote?

JeffKenna · 26-10-2018 04:03PM

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Reminder to all my fellow headCaseys who have yet to vote to put a big 'ol X in Peter's box and nothing for the other five so they don't stand no chance at all.

MIGA

You mark it 1 !!!!!!

Assetbacked · 26-10-2018 04:04PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

So you are voting for him based on that one statement?

You are entitled to do that. But it's a bit silly in my opinion. It would be a bit like choosing an architect for your house based on his choice of English soccer team he supports.

Thanks Donald Trump!

There's nothing particularly endearing about Michael D. In addition, it is a bit embarrassing having him as our president as it perpetuates the Irish leprechaun stereotype when he is wheeled out to represent us.

Donald Trump · 26-10-2018 04:05PM

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Reminder to all my fellow headCaseys who have yet to vote to put a big 'ol X in Peter's box and nothing for the other five so they don't stand no chance at all.

MIGA

Learn how the voting system works FFS

:pac:

Akrasia · 26-10-2018 04:05PM

RobertKK wrote: »

It is not about hating Travellers. Free speech is under danger from everything becoming more and more PC, if you hold the ‘wrong’ view as in it not promoted by the media or it is is something kept quiet, then one is condemned and it is like a measure to try and silence people.
People are getting fed up of that and Peter Casey is who one would vote for if they believe in free speech.
We had 5 candidates who towed the PC line to avoid criticism, and 1 who didn’t and got condemned for saying what he believed rather than saying what the media types and liberals wanted to hear.
The same media who promoted a stunt by a Traveller and championed her but strangely quiet when their heroine was charged for theft.
Hating people is wrong, but covering up problems in any group of people does no one any favours.

The president is not the person to change this.

A president is supposed to represent all the people of the state.

Travellers when they break the laws need to be treated the same as any other member of society, but this is a policing and judicial matter, not something that the president has any power over.

And while crime certainly is more prevalent amongst travellers, not all travellers are criminals, and tarring them all with the same brush and writing them off as criminals before they've even finished primary school is not a long term solution.

If Travellers are an ethnic minority as they are recognised to be, the state should be using this as a way to give extra support to those members of the travelling community who want to escape from the cycle of poverty and crime.

26-10-2018 04:06PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

So you are voting for him based on that one statement?

You are entitled to do that. But it's a bit silly in my opinion. It would be a bit like choosing an architect for your house based on the choice of English soccer team he supports.

I don't like the way that Ireland is going at the moment, the sense of entitlement by many people, the levels of selfishness, and the inability to be allowed to express any opinion that is opposed to left view liberals.

Casey has voiced opinion against these things and therefore got my vote.

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