After Hours Presidential Election Poll

scotchy · 23-10-2018 04:17PM

PC now 33/1 on Paddy Power.

Now 3rd in the running.

In the absence of any proper Poll, I find this very interesting.

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PressRun · 23-10-2018 04:17PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure. If Casey polls well, ever the populists that FF are, you will see them move to the right. I can guarantee it.

Whether they will actually take action on these issues will of course remain to be seen if they get into power.

FF are already fairly right. How much more right do you want them to go exactly? And why do you think a president influences whether people go right or left?

And I don't think it remains to be seen whether these issues will be taken on in governement - they almost cetainly won't.

PressRun · 23-10-2018 04:18PM

JeffKenna wrote: »

But if the president doesnt do anything what does it matter who I vote for? May as well vote for someone I feel represents me.

Vote for whoever you like, but don't act like it's a vote that's going to change the country.

Snake Plisken · 23-10-2018 04:18PM

dav3 wrote: »

That's not how politics works, not in this country anyway. I know there have been a lot of recently registered posters parroting the same thing, but don't get your hopes up.

Yeah right! Next thing you'll be blaming Russian bots!

ELM327 · 23-10-2018 04:20PM

Wasnt going to bother voting at all but the recent remarks by Casey have swung me firmly in his direction.
He says what people actually think, not what the liberal PC mainstream media wants to tell people they should think.

I don't understand how travellers can claim anything is "Racist", as being Irish and a traveller doesnt change your race from white any more than a person being born in a stable can claim to be a horse.

scooby77 · 23-10-2018 04:22PM

scotchy wrote: »

PC now 33/1 on Paddy Power.

Now 3rd in the running.

In the absence of any proper Poll, I find this very interesting.

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And down to 9/4 in betting without Michael D....he was at 12/1 in that as recently as Saturday (threw on a sneaky €5 then).
Some money going on him...

JeffKenna · 23-10-2018 04:23PM

PressRun wrote: »

Vote for whoever you like, but don't act like it's a vote that's going to change the country.

Change has to start somewhere...

lalababa · 23-10-2018 04:24PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Jesus, that's desperation if ever I've seen it.

Very, very pathetic article. So she overheard the word knacker.

Zubeneschamali · 23-10-2018 04:25PM

PressRun wrote: »

And I don't think it remains to be seen whether these issues will be taken on in governement - they almost cetainly won't.

There are loads of things that would poll well which no political party will touch with a bargepole.

The death penalty.
Three strikes.
Corporal punishment.
Spike island/internment for repeat offenders/druggies/thugs/travellers.
Anti-asylum seeker policies.

Casey has just blundered across one or two of these, anti-traveller and anti-dole scrounger sentiment. No government is going near these ideas.

PressRun · 23-10-2018 04:25PM

JeffKenna wrote: »

Change has to start somewhere...

Well I don't think it's going to start with CEO Peter Casey.

MrMusician18 · 23-10-2018 04:26PM

dav3 wrote: »

That's not how politics works, not in this country anyway. I know there have been a lot of recently registered posters parroting the same thing, but don't get your hopes up.

What are you suggesting? You know I've been around here longer than many posters, and if your reg date is anything to go by, yourself included. I've already declared I'm not a PC voter, though he might get a preference. I don't care for MDH either, whose comments on Castro I consider to have been in poor taste and unpresidential.

Yeah, I chuck accounts every so often. Hardly unique.

And politics does work like that here. If an untapped market of sentiment is discovered, you think it will be ignored? If there is not a new party, parties of fluid ideology like FF are not going to leave it there, when it's there for the taking .

JeffKenna · 23-10-2018 04:29PM

PressRun wrote: »

Well I don't think it's going to start with CEO Peter Casey.

Well we have to try something different. What did Einstein say the definition of stupidy was? Although according to this forum its only the '"unintelligent" will be voting for Casey, so perhaps he was wrong.

eviltimeban · 23-10-2018 04:30PM

ELM327 wrote: »

He says what people actually think

You mean *some* people.

Atlantis50 · 23-10-2018 04:33PM

scooby77 wrote: »

And down to 9/4 in betting without Michael D....he was at 12/1 in that as recently as Saturday (threw on a sneaky €5 then).
Some money going on him...

Wow, down to 9/4 now. Good thing I got in at 16/1 last Thursday

PressRun · 23-10-2018 04:36PM

JeffKenna wrote: »

Well we have to try something different. What did Einstein say the definition of stupidy was? Although according to this forum its only the '"unintelligent" will be voting for Casey, so perhaps he was wrong.

I still don't understand what the "something different" is that Peter Casey is supposedly going to bring, given he won't be doing anything beyond shaking hands and attempting to act dignified in public.

Atlantis50 · 23-10-2018 04:36PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Renua was too tied up in abortion (being the reason for their birth and all) and were found to be way out of touch on it.

There may be a market for a party of the right not mired in abortion baggage. We shall see.

I don't think abortion is Renua's problem.

33.6% or about 725k people voted No.

That's a good base to start from imo.

MrMusician18 · 23-10-2018 04:37PM

PressRun wrote: »

FF are already fairly right. How much more right do you want them to go exactly? And why do you think a president influences whether people go right or left?

And I don't think it remains to be seen whether these issues will be taken on in governement - they almost cetainly won't.

I'd hardly consider a party that's going to facilitate the 2019 budget right wing.

PressRun · 23-10-2018 04:38PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I'd hardly consider a party that's going to facilitate the 2019 budget right wing.

Well I'm not getting into the politics of FF, suffice to say, Peter Casey isn't going to bring about the alt right utopia you're hoping for.

AndrewJRenko · 23-10-2018 04:40PM

scotchy wrote: »

PC now 33/1 on Paddy Power.

Now 3rd in the running.

In the absence of any proper Poll, I find this very interesting.

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Yes, very interesting indeed

33/1 for Casey 9/4 for Higgins

So tantalisingly close

JeffKenna · 23-10-2018 04:41PM

PressRun wrote: »

I still don't understand what the "something different" is that Peter Casey is supposedly going to bring, given he won't be doing anything beyond shaking hands and attempting to act dignified in public.

Perhaps honesty?

AndrewJRenko · 23-10-2018 04:42PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Renua was too tied up in abortion (being the reason for their birth and all) and were found to be way out of touch on it.

There may be a market for a party of the right not mired in abortion baggage. We shall see.

So you reckon there is a market for the fairly recently defunct PDs then? I guess that Michael McDowell might disagree.

PressRun · 23-10-2018 04:44PM

JeffKenna wrote: »

Perhaps honesty?

Honesty about what? Travellers? Finally, a president who tells the truth about travellers! Maybe he can tell Macron and Merkel and all the rest about it when they come to visit.

MrMusician18 · 23-10-2018 04:45PM

PressRun wrote: »

Well I'm not getting into the politics of FF, suffice to say, Peter Casey isn't going to bring about the alt right utopia you're hoping for.

That's some leap since you know little about me, only what I've posted. I'm not a P.C voter, though as I said, I might give him a preference.

Is that what you do, just attack someone as being alt-right when they hold a different opinion? An opinion that isn't even alt-right!

And it was you that stated FF are already fairly right, which is funny for someone who doesn't want to discuss the politics of FF

PressRun · 23-10-2018 04:46PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

That's some leap since you know little about me, only what I've posted. I'm not a P.C voter, though as I said, I might give him a preference.

Is that what you do, just attack someone as being alt-right when they hold a different opinion? An opinion that isn't even alt-right!

And it was you that stated FF are already fairly right, which is funny for someone who doesn't want to discuss the politics of FF

I'm not attacking anyone. Just stating that a vote for Peter Casey isn't what some people on this thread think it is. You're the one who seems to be getting very het up with everyone.

This isn't a thread about FF, so no, I'm not getting into a discussion about them.

DavidLyons_ · 23-10-2018 04:47PM

PressRun wrote: »

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I'd hardly consider a party that's going to facilitate the 2019 budget right wing.

Well I'm not getting into the politics of FF, suffice to say, Peter Casey isn't going to bring about the alt right utopia you're hoping for.

Dearly me. Nobody, not one single poster, is espousing an “alt right utopia”. Nor do they expect Peter to bring it about.

Why did you even mention an “alt right utopia”? To even mention such a thing means your mask has slipped.

The reasons why folk are giving Peter their no. 1 have been repeatedly illustrated here.

It isn’t racism. It isn’t bigotry. It’s not stupidity or lack of education.

Ignore the cold hard facts as you wish.

Zubeneschamali · 23-10-2018 04:48PM

PressRun wrote: »

I still don't understand what the "something different" is that Peter Casey is supposedly going to bring

Tweets complaining about halting sites, dole scroungers, immigrants, druggies, single mothers, asylum seekers, anti-smoking laws, so called global warming etc. etc.

He needs a bad hair transplant and some orange paint, though.

PressRun · 23-10-2018 04:51PM

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

Dearly me. Nobody, not one single poster, is espousing an “alt right utopia”. Nor do they expect Peter to bring it about.

Why did you even mention an “alt right utopia”? To even mention such a thing means your mask has slipped.

The reasons why folk are giving Peter their no. 1 have been repeatedly illustrated here.

It isn’t racism. It isn’t bigotry. It’s not stupidity or lack of education.

Ignore the cold hard facts as you wish.

Where did I mention any of these things?

And how has my "mask slipped"? I've not been pretending to like Peter Casey. Nor have I been pretending that voting in the presidential election is going to meaningfully change anything in this country.

And what are the "cold hard facts"?

JeffKenna · 23-10-2018 04:52PM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Tweets complaining about halting sites, dole scroungers, immigrants, druggies, single mothers, asylum seekers, anti-smoking laws, so called global warming etc. etc.

He needs a bad hair transplant and some orange paint, though.

I find it ironic that you replied to a post regarding honesty by making up a load of stuff.

ELM327 · 23-10-2018 04:54PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

You mean *some* people.

Don't worry boss you don't have to move on yet, he's not going to win as he's miles behind.

Patser · 23-10-2018 04:55PM

Tonight's debate could get very interesting:

Gallagher and ní Riada (as well as more obvious Duffy and Freeman) look to have being completely blindsided by Casey in the last week, all due to him making 1 simple statement and doubling down on it on last week's debate.

When you have 5 wannabes trying to be an alternative to a massive favourite, and 1 strikes gold by standing apart from that herd, I wonder will any of the others break ranks and try something.

With even Gallagher and ní Riada now looking nervously at their deposits - will the try to undermine Casey and hope to get above 12% or go really hard at Higgins to try eat into his percentages. And you never know what Casey might throw into the pot, he threw a fair few allegations at Higgins, with the jet one sticking a bit.

Could be a fairly interesting night, and I wonder will Higgins really regret not appearing tomorrow night if the others suddenly have a free pitch to drop allegations into.

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