Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

Gazzmonkey · 22-10-2018 05:17PM

super_furry wrote: »

Really? You honestly think people are too frightened to complain about travellers in Ireland?

Because it seems to me like there's no fear whatsoever in people whinging about travellers, particularly here.

Yes

irishproduce · 22-10-2018 05:22PM

Sean Gallagher has been clear that he believes anything can happen in the final week of campaign, almost with a wry smile.
Is he plotting something this week, to dent Higgins' campaign?

If he does something, then as I see it, almost like greyhounds tumbling into each other at the last bend, could Peter Casey emerge from the scuffle to win the race?

joe40 · 22-10-2018 05:23PM

Geuze wrote: »

AlekSmart wrote: »

Aint that a fact.....In a 2015 Indo article,David McWilliams dug a bit into the stats a few years back,and I would be interested to see him return to update the article ?

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-mcwilliams/mystery-of-massive-rise-in-those-quitting-workforce-on-disability-29170473.html

Those figures are....FRIGHTENING :eek:,and I'm hoping that the past 5 years may have reversed of slowed this trend..?

I remain an optimist ....:)

I've bad news for you.

https://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Annual-SWS-Statistical-Information-Report.aspx

Numbers on DA continue to rise.

"The number of recipients of Disability Allowance rose by 7,726, with
133,929 recipients in 2017. Expenditure was almost €1.5 billion in 2017,
an increase of 8.2%."

Expenditure on Carer’s Allowance increased by over €75 million, or
11.6% in 2017; there are now 75,264 recipients of the scheme.

Well I'm personally delighted I'm not getting disability allowance, or need a carers allowance.
The vast majority of people getting those allowances and benefits are entitled to them and more importantly depend on them. Some people are cheating the system for sure, but that happens in all walks of life, from tax fraud to corruption.

NIMAN · 22-10-2018 05:24PM

irishproduce wrote: »

Sean Gallagher has been clear that he believes anything can happen in the final week of campaign, almost with a wry smile.
Is he plotting something this week, to dent Higgins' campaign?

If he does something, then as I see it, almost like greyhounds tumbling into each other at the last bend, could Peter Casey emerge from the scuffle to win the race?

tbh, Gallagher always looks sneaky, like he's up to no good.:D

Fann Linn · 22-10-2018 05:27PM

Special ones being discussed now on Matt Cooper. Something about a 'mother' driving her kids around and robbing houses.
Cuture I spose.

FrancieBrady · 22-10-2018 05:35PM

bubblypop wrote: »

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.2240297,-6.125099,173m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.2241341,-6.1245248,3a,75y,276.62h,84.6t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1stnFLrj-Lw1-USdBdRSzwzw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DtnFLrj-Lw1-USdBdRSzwzw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D0.7999449%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100?hl=en

Not much of a response from the general-isers was there?.

Brendan Bendar · 22-10-2018 05:38PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Which bit of 'there are issues with the travelling community' are you having a problem with.

If somebody is littering or flouting laws then the Gardai and the government agencies need to deal with it.
They won't because they know joe public will ring Liveline or rant on FB before it dawns on them to vote them out.

Hmmmm ………bit of a long winded way to solve a problem which should not exist.

Vote them out…………… even by your standards Francie, that’s a bit of a reach.

The lifers and pencil lickers are not doing what the taxpayers are paying them for- aaah we’ll vote the Govt. out!!

Jeez, leg must be at you Francie if you think anyone buys that bullsdust.:D

FrancieBrady · 22-10-2018 05:39PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Hmmmm ………bit of a long winded way to solve a problem which should not exist.

Vote them out…………… even by your standards Francie, that’s a bit of a reach.

The lifers and pencil lickers are not doing what the taxpayers are paying them for- aaah we’ll vote the Govt. out!!

Jeez, leg must be at you Francie if you think anyone buys that bullsdust.:D

Your're not on about revolution again Brendy are you? :rolleyes:

VinLieger · 22-10-2018 05:41PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

The point about mdh doing nothing is valid . We have just had the biggest insult ever in a non recession budget for workers.

Please tell me how exactly what the president under the limits of the constitution is meant to do to fix this?

Idbatterim wrote: »

Enough is enough. Enough of wind bags. Enough of career politicians , with no real life experience running the show. We reap what we sow!

So we hand it over to a man who has spent 2/3's of his life living in other countries, likely hasn't paid tax here in decades and has zero experience for the position as well. But you think should we should vote for him simply because you agree with him on this ONE topic that he ultimately has no power over or ability to do anything about.

I weep for the irish electorate and the future of the country if people are as deluded about how the world works as you are. And by that I don't mean how politics or the "elite" operate, i'm talking about how you've been fooled into believing casey will represent you in anyway whatsoever and won't just immediately start looking to make as much as he can out of the position.

Casey is just as much of a scumbag as cash, he would screw the country over in a second if it benefited his pocket, the only difference is he wears a suit doing it and legitimises it by calling it "business"

DEFTLEFTHAND · 22-10-2018 05:42PM

milennial wrote: »

i would not like to be in peter casey's shoes
he really should have some kind of personal security

Probably does I'd imagine.

22-10-2018 05:51PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Hmmmm ………bit of a long winded way to solve a problem which should not exist.

Vote them out…………… even by your standards Francie, that’s a bit of a reach.

The lifers and pencil lickers are not doing what the taxpayers are paying them for- aaah we’ll vote the Govt. out!!

Jeez, leg must be at you Francie if you think anyone buys that bullsdust.:D

Well done Brendy Bendy, always knew you would provide the jump the shark moment in a thread like this......

pumpkin4life · 22-10-2018 05:59PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Please tell me how exactly what the president under the limits of the constitution is meant to do to fix this?

So we hand it over to a man who has spent 2/3's of his life living in other countries, likely hasn't paid tax here in decades and has zero experience for the position as well. But you think should we should vote for him simply because you agree with him on this ONE topic that he ultimately has no power over or ability to do anything about.

I weep for the irish electorate and the future of the country if people are as deluded about how the world works as you are. And by that I don't mean how politics or the "elite" operate, i'm talking about how you've been fooled into believing casey will represent you in anyway whatsoever and won't just immediately start looking to make as much as he can out of the position.

Casey is just as much of a scumbag as cash, he would screw the country over in a second if it benefited his pocket, the only difference is he wears a suit doing it and legitimises it by calling it "business"

Casey's a pretty poor if not a completely awful candidate in a lot of ways, and you're right about a lot of this.

But. Here's the thing.

A Casey upswing will drive a lot of the leading politicians/journalist/NPCs nuts, and will represent a leader figure, out there who spoke the truth about this one thing, not a hypocrite, socialist sponger who lied about the LearJet on TV so that he can sponge off the Irish population for seven more years. More people will at the very least, be encouraged by this and will respond to this in a positive manner, as is happening right now.

We especially need this, because truth be told, Ireland is in a state of decline right now, and people need to call out what is going on for what it is.

Only then can we fix it.

VinLieger · 22-10-2018 06:03PM

pumpkin4life wrote: »

More people will at the very least, be encouraged by this and will respond to this in a positive manner, as is happening right now.

I disagree about anything positive being achievable from this and while I agree with some of what Casey has said he's running an entirely negative campaign which I do not believe anything positive can come from.

People corresponding to negative campaigning like this is not a positive and can only lead in a bad direction.

Brendan Bendar · 22-10-2018 06:06PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Your're not on about revolution again Brendy are you? :rolleyes:

No Francie, just getting folk to actually do what they are paid to do, without resorting to enquiries, investigations,tribunals and stuff.

How simple is that concept, do what you are paid to do.:D

FrancieBrady · 22-10-2018 06:10PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

No Francie, just getting folk to actually do what they are paid to do, without resorting to enquiries, investigations,tribunals and stuff.

How simple is that concept, do what you are paid to do.:D

And Casey is gonna get that done? I don't think so.

At the end of the day the ranters and ravers have to get out and vote in an election that matters to such issues.

For this one we need a well rounded, humane, secular, culturally connected, public servant.
We don't need someone who incites the mob when he needs to be noticed, former bagmen or egotists.

joe40 · 22-10-2018 06:11PM

pumpkin4life wrote: »

VinLieger wrote: »

Please tell me how exactly what the president under the limits of the constitution is meant to do to fix this?

So we hand it over to a man who has spent 2/3's of his life living in other countries, likely hasn't paid tax here in decades and has zero experience for the position as well. But you think should we should vote for him simply because you agree with him on this ONE topic that he ultimately has no power over or ability to do anything about.

I weep for the irish electorate and the future of the country if people are as deluded about how the world works as you are. And by that I don't mean how politics or the "elite" operate, i'm talking about how you've been fooled into believing casey will represent you in anyway whatsoever and won't just immediately start looking to make as much as he can out of the position.

Casey is just as much of a scumbag as cash, he would screw the country over in a second if it benefited his pocket, the only difference is he wears a suit doing it and legitimises it by calling it "business"

Casey's a pretty poor if not a completely awful candidate in a lot of ways, and you're right about a lot of this.

But. Here's the thing.

A Casey upswing will drive a lot of the leading politicians/journalist/NPCs nuts, and will represent a leader figure, out there who spoke the truth about this one thing, not a hypocrite, socialist sponger who lied about the LearJet on TV so that he can sponge off the Irish population for seven more years. More people will at the very least, be encouraged by this and will respond to this in a positive manner, as is happening right now.

We especially need this, because truth be told, Ireland is in a state of decline right now, and people need to call out what is going on for what it is.

Only then can we fix it.

How is Ireland in a state of decline right now. There are issues and problems like every country but overall I think we're doing ok.
We certainly don't need the likes of Casey spouting bile. That was what Farage did in Britain and as soon as he got his way he disappeared. That kind of bigoted politics has never taken hold in Ireland in the past and it won't now.

endacl · 22-10-2018 06:14PM

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Apparantly the head of a Traveller action group ('Travellers for travellers' on Facebook,

Bernard Sweeney?

The most salient piece of information I found on him was from the 2016 election. “Excluded on the first count”.

puppieperson1 · 22-10-2018 06:18PM

ozmo wrote: »

Any polls out yet? - last one I saw last week he was still on 2% - which doesn't seem to reflect his sudden popularity on social media at all.[/QUOTE

2% before the weekend they have not released any polls since as they dont want anyone tosee his support and they are only polling the PC lefties......

FrancieBrady · 22-10-2018 06:20PM

puppieperson1 wrote: »

ozmo wrote: »

Any polls out yet? - last one I saw last week he was still on 2% - which doesn't seem to reflect his sudden popularity on social media at all.[/QUOTE

2% before the weekend they have not released any polls since as they dont want anyone tosee his support and they are only polling the PC lefties......

No poll due until tomorrow --- which was decided before Casey's speech to masses.

AnneFrank · 22-10-2018 06:21PM

He will get the uneducated vote only, never a chance to win or even compete,but he's got publicity which is all he wanted, bang for his buck in terms of campaign spend.

Fann Linn · 22-10-2018 06:24PM

milennial wrote: »

for me the most important thing in a president is his ablity to right poetry
you wiuld have to be a deplorable to vote for saen casey
up micahel d
vive la revolucion

Sean' Casey was well able to write.

AnneFrank · 22-10-2018 06:25PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Sean' Casey was well able to write.

Eamon Casey could ride

VinLieger · 22-10-2018 06:25PM

puppieperson1 wrote: »

2% before the weekend they have not released any polls since as they dont want anyone tosee his support and they are only polling the PC lefties......

No of this is in anyway true and shows your complete ignorance and of how polling works

joe40 · 22-10-2018 06:28PM

What is a PC lefty. I might be one but I'm not sure.

KevIRL · 22-10-2018 06:29PM

Casey gone into 40/1 for first was 500/1 last week.

Gone into 11/2 for second was 100/1 last week.

Fann Linn · 22-10-2018 06:30PM

milennial wrote: »

i obv meant peter
but if you want to post som sean casey poetry be my guest

I prefer his short stories.

q85dw7osi4lebg · 22-10-2018 06:34PM

KevIRL wrote: »

Casey gone into 40/1 for first was 500/1 last week.

Gone into 11/2 for second was 100/1 last week.

Have him 250/1 to win, and 100/1 without MDH.

AnneFrank · 22-10-2018 06:35PM

Lara Green Nun wrote: »

Have him 250/1 to win, and 100/1 without MDH.

The bookies saw you coming, free money

FrancieBrady · 22-10-2018 06:38PM

Lara Green Nun wrote: »

Have him 250/1 to win, and 100/1 without MDH.

Great odds. I don't understand betting but that means if you put 20e on at 250/1 you lose 20e?

q85dw7osi4lebg · 22-10-2018 06:38PM

AnneFrank wrote: »

The bookies saw you coming, free money

Free bets :rolleyes:

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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