Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

Tell me how · 27-09-2018 02:26PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I despise homework, I spent my primary school years copying homework from other kids during school breaks and I was one of the top students. In Ireland kids start school very young and frankly it's ridiculous when a 5 year old comes home with homework. I have another one in now senior infants, she is probably among more capable kids and we gave up on homework last year. She did the homework she wanted to do and no more.

We do disagree on the value of homework. I'm not suggesting it should be excessive but that it can play a critical part in education and personal development, in my view. And I repeat I don't have children but have several nieces and nephews and I observe their interest and progression in this respect as well as going on my own experience. I played sports massively when in school. From the age of 8 onwards. If I hadn't had to do homework, I wouldn't have done it. Any of it. But I got in to a routine of treating it like a job and saying the quicker I started, the quicker I'd get it finished. I grew to like education and have completed 3 degrees part time since my leaving partly because of the familiarity of sitting down at home and opening a copy book.

The part I have highlighted in bold I am curious about. Is that a positive message to be giving to children? What happens when they decide that zero homework is is the amount they want to do?
What happens as they get older when they decide that zero chores is the amount they want to do? I'm not questioning your parenting style but using this as an example where I think we might be moving too much towards anything which is in any way difficult, must be removed.

meeeeh · 27-09-2018 03:02PM

Tell me how wrote: »

The part I have highlighted in bold I am curious about. Is that a positive message to be giving to children? What happens when they decide that zero homework is is the amount they want to do?

When I will come accross child psychologist who thinks homework in junior infants is good idea I will make sure they do homework. As it happens school policy is no home work in JI, they just had a bit overly enthusiastic teacher. Kids will learn that they have to do certain amount of work but not at five.

Sleeper12 · 27-09-2018 03:11PM

meeeeh wrote:

When I will come accross child psychologist who thinks homework in junior infants is good idea I will make sure they do homework. As it happens school policy is no home work in JI, they just had a bit overly enthusiastic teacher. Kids will learn that they have to do certain amount of work but not at five.

Many child psychologists are against homework up to 6th class. Not just junior infants. This is why I felt there should have been a professional in the studio with facts instead of discussing opinions

meeeeh · 27-09-2018 03:20PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Many child psychologists are against homework up to 6th class. Not just junior infants. This is why I felt there should have been a professional in the studio with facts instead of discussing opinions

I agree, I'm not mad about that guest anyway (I can't remember her name), she just seems to be an expert on everything because she has seven kids.

VinLieger · 02-10-2018 02:44PM

Since she couldn't bribe, bully, beg, harass or threaten enough people to nominate her gemma o doherty has gone back to spewing horrific anti-vax stuff on twitter, specifically targeting ciara kelly, has she mentioned it at all or acknowledged it?

nuac · 02-10-2018 03:48PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I agree, I'm not mad about that guest anyway (I can't remember her name), she just seems to be an expert on everything because she has seven kids.

Have not heard her, but any mother who has reared seven is entitled to a hearing

Sleeper12 · 02-10-2018 03:54PM

nuac wrote: »

Have not heard her, but any mother who has reared seven is entitled to a hearing

A hearing & then a sentencing :pac::pac::pac:

i71jskz5xu42pb · 03-10-2018 10:42AM

VinLieger wrote: »

Since she couldn't bribe, bully, beg, harass or threaten enough people to nominate her gemma o doherty has gone back to spewing horrific anti-vax stuff on twitter, specifically targeting ciara kelly, has she mentioned it at all or acknowledged it?

Haven't heard the show but did see her engaging with Gemma on Twitter. I'd love to know what Ciara hopes to achieve with that, I don't think Gemma or her followers are going to be swayed by any argument (unless it's some sort of conspiracy theory involving the state, big pharma and Maddie McCann).

sydthebeat · 03-10-2018 12:33PM

"3D printing of houses".....

ah ciara !!

Fann Linn · 03-10-2018 12:36PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

"3D printing of houses".....

ah ciara !!

Crazy idea. Just so glad that she gave up the medicine.

Grolschevik · 03-10-2018 12:44PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

"3D printing of houses".....

ah ciara !!

Fann Linn wrote: »

Crazy idea. Just so glad that she gave up the medicine.

It has been done elsewhere, and I even heard a guy on a different show mention it months back.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44709534

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jun/06/netherlands-to-build-worlds-first-habitable-3d-printed-houses

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/technow/this-3d-printed-house-could-help-reduce-global-homelessness-832667.html

meeeeh · 03-10-2018 01:26PM

Grolschevik wrote: »

It has been done elsewhere, and I even heard a guy on a different show mention it months back.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44709534

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jun/06/netherlands-to-build-worlds-first-habitable-3d-printed-houses

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/technow/this-3d-printed-house-could-help-reduce-global-homelessness-832667.html

In fairness most of continental prefabricated houses are built in the factory in a day or two and then put up on site in a week week or so to higher building standards. Speed of built is not an issue so printing a house won't make any difference.

03-10-2018 01:30PM

Ciara “you’re not wrong” Kelly !

Hate that . Just say you’re right !!

maxwell smart · 06-10-2018 01:13AM

Heard a bit of the show today, she was complaining about a university banning clapping and replacing it with 'Jazz Hands' to avoid impacting on people with Autism and several other disorders that loud, sudden noises can have a big impact on.
Of course, she thought it was utter s***e and that people should clap away, something along the lines of the majority shouldn't change their ways for the minority.
Now, call me stupid, but I think her entire radio show is built on trying to stick it to the majority while she supports the minority view (once it's in line with her own twisted logic).
She is some Scooby Doo

Sleeper12 · 06-10-2018 08:32AM

maxwell smart wrote: »

Heard a bit of the show today, she was complaining about a university banning clapping and replacing it with 'Jazz Hands' to avoid impacting on people with Autism and several other disorders that loud, sudden noises can have a big impact on.
Of course, she thought it was utter s***e and that people should clap away, something along the lines of the majority shouldn't change their ways for the minority.
Now, call me stupid, but I think her entire radio show is built on trying to stick it to the majority while she supports the minority view (once it's in line with her own twisted logic).
She is some Scooby Doo

On the clapping I thought she would be a bit more sympathetic towards autistic people, being a doctor and all. At the very least she could have not laughed at the idea.

Tell me how · 06-10-2018 05:34PM

maxwell smart wrote: »

Heard a bit of the show today, she was complaining about a university banning clapping and replacing it with 'Jazz Hands' to avoid impacting on people with Autism and several other disorders that loud, sudden noises can have a big impact on.
Of course, she thought it was utter s***e and that people should clap away, something along the lines of the majority shouldn't change their ways for the minority.
Now, call me stupid, but I think her entire radio show is built on trying to stick it to the majority while she supports the minority view (once it's in line with her own twisted logic).
She is some Scooby Doo

Guaranteed if she had said it was a good idea, she would be ridiculed here and accused of being ultra-liberal trying to fit in with a PC movement.

The clapping thing is understandable, but excessive in my view. I think there could be other ways to make people feel comfortable than removing something which is an expressive act for many to accommodate the few.

Roger_007 · 06-10-2018 05:41PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Guaranteed if she had said it was a good idea, she would be ridiculed here and accused of being ultra-liberal trying to fit in with a PC movement.

The clapping thing is understandable, but excessive in my view. I think there could be other ways to make people feel comfortable than removing something which is an expressive act for many to accommodate the few.

I'm looking forward to the day when there will be no clapping or cheering or yah- hooing allowed at sporting events..........especially when being broadcast on radio.

anthonyjmaher · 06-10-2018 07:55PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Ciara “you’re not wrong” Kelly ! Hate that . Just say you’re right !!

Ciara "I want to know what YOU think" Kelly, after she spends the whole show ramming her own opinion down the throats of the guests and the listeners.

Tell me how · 06-10-2018 08:21PM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

Ciara "I want to know what YOU think" Kelly, after she spends the whole show ramming her own opinion down the throats of the guests and the listeners.

Can you give an example of when she rams her opinion down the throat of the listener? Because I listen, and what I hear is someone who has an opinion, expresses it, and asks for input.

The very fact that she asks for and then gives voice to those that disagree with her is, in my view, proof that she is not forcing her opinion on anyone.

How am I missing this?

enfant terrible · 06-10-2018 08:25PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Can you give an example of when she rams her opinion down the throat of the listener? Because I listen, and what I hear is someone who has an opinion, expresses it, and asks for input.

The very fact that she asks for and then gives voice to those that disagree with her is, in my view, proof that she is not forcing her opinion on anyone.

How am I missing this?

I actually think she pretty fair to men now too, I noticed recently whenever someone brings up a point how women are suffering an injustice she usually points out it applies to men too.

Faugheen · 06-10-2018 09:58PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Guaranteed if she had said it was a good idea, she would be ridiculed here and accused of being ultra-liberal trying to fit in with a PC movement.

The clapping thing is understandable, but excessive in my view. I think there could be other ways to make people feel comfortable than removing something which is an expressive act for many to accommodate the few.

To be fair, I listened to that segment and while I can see her general point, I thought the way She expressed it was with a complete lack of sympathy towards people with autism and it was in a real ‘get over it’ type tone.

Sleeper12 · 06-10-2018 10:57PM

Faugheen wrote:

To be fair, I listened to that segment and while I can see her general point, I thought the way She expressed it was with a complete lack of sympathy towards people with autism and it was in a real â€˜get over itâ€™ type tone.

This was my point too. A GP will be well aware of how autistic people can suffer from loud noise. Some of my nephews wear noise cancelling headphones at weddings and the likes. One lad in his 20s wears ear protectors that his dad got from the airport. These are the ones used by the guys on the tarmac with the ping pong paddles guiding the planes If it was anyone else laughing it wouldn't bother me as they might not realise how difficult it can be but a doctor making light & giggling about it rubbed me the wrong way.

As for the actual article about jazz hands, it was a suggestion by students in a college. Students tend to think that they can save the world as the world hasn't hardened them yet. I've no doubt that every college comes up with wild ideas every year. These students will be rushing to a different cause next week.

JJayoo · 11-10-2018 12:16PM

On the radio again acting the victim

11-10-2018 12:20PM

so delighted that today's contributor (I don't know who she is?) is absolutely calling Ciara Kelly on her hysteria about women being harassed on the streets!!! OMG its unbelievable, women cant even walk down the street without being sexually harassed and raped according to Ciara Kelly!! The contributor is brilliant, she says just get on with your day if someone catcalls or make a comment, like women always have done. Yes women have to take care out walking alone, but its just common sense to take precautions and be aware of your safety. It always has been!!!

Ciara Kelly is absolutely hysterical about womens issues - she creates problems where they aren't any and she never stops!
Every single one of us has had weird experiences - I was flashed, I was groped, shouted at, whistled at, stared at, commented on, ass pinched -and dealt with it all. Its PART OF LIFE!!
I have educated my daughters to do the same. Both of them live abroad, London and Vancouver and deal with the same issues in those cities. Its part of life Ciara, not something peculiar to Ireland. GROW UP.

11-10-2018 12:27PM

..........Ciara Kelly got so worked up there she asked her contributor "would you actually prefer to be raped than someone blamed in the wrong for it" (demonizing men again!!)........the contributor replied "I actually was raped"! And yet this woman's viewpoint is so balanced and so reasoned and so damn good. She wasn't demonising the entire male gender for the bad behaviour of a few. Ciara Kelly should be ashamed of herself on this segment. She is appalling.

Irresponsible broadcasting! She only reads out what she wants !!

JJayoo · 11-10-2018 12:31PM

I wonder how much of her 'victim playing' is manufactured to promote her career. She has hopped on this victim bandwagon making her career in newstalk untouchable and gaurenteing that she will be pushed as a sign of 'oh look at us aren't we progressive'.

I'd love for her to go off to a country where women are treated as second class and see how she gets on.

meeeeh · 11-10-2018 12:34PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

ah yeah.............she reads out texts all against her ...........but interviews a called live on radio who agrees with her. Nice one Ciara

You mean a woman who was raped shouldn't have a say about her experience? That's irresponsible?!!!

And before anyone states anything I agree more with Larissa Nolan. But I still despise people with attitude above or some attitudes that came through in texts. And any decent human being would.

Btw someone who was flashed once describing someone who was raped as snowflakes is a bit rich.

JJayoo · 11-10-2018 12:37PM

meeeeh wrote: »

You mean a woman who was raped shouldn't have a say about her experience? That's irresponsible.

Funny you should say that, her main guest, who Ciara was trying to dismiss, was also raped. As soon as she mentioned this to Ciara, Ciara suddenly tried to backtrack how she was dismissing all her points.

Del.Monte · 11-10-2018 12:37PM

She was verging on the hysterical during that segment - unbelievable stuff and she should be taken off air.

JJayoo · 11-10-2018 12:38PM

Someone really should make a YouTube channel dedicated to her hysterical sh1te. All the clips off her victim bullsh1t

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