Quality of Indo journalism

Dr. Bre · 05-10-2018 11:04PM

Anything but independent

TOMs WIFE · 06-10-2018 12:07AM

McGaggs wrote: »

All those words, no semblance of a message to impart.

This sums up the article.

daheff · 06-10-2018 09:18AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

That Independent still shifts decent numbers every day though.

The Evening Herald and 'Sindo' also do well.

They're still making coin.

sure do. part of it is because its an ff paper, times being fg, rest being brit papers or tabloids.... so no real choice for people still thinking on those lines (which a lot of older people do)

Zebra3 · 06-10-2018 11:43AM

Do the fearless, honest journos in the Indo dig into DOB's criminal past much?

Nope. Corporate stooges.

TOMs WIFE · 06-10-2018 01:27PM

The article is in the paper today. A second attempted read has caused me another headache. How does this guy get paid for such a poor grasp of the English language?

JohnnyFlash · 06-10-2018 01:31PM

I like to buy the Sindo at the weekend. There’s a fair bit of reading in it, and they are masters at winding up humourless Republicans and far left socialist types who are so prevalent on social media platforms.

TerrorFirmer · 06-10-2018 01:32PM

The Indo isn't that bad an actual paper. People are mixing up the opinion pieces/entertainment/clickbait stuff that's very popular online with the physical paper (which has this sort of stuff towards the back).

There just isn't the money for real investigative journalism anymore for most outlets (if they even did much investigative journalism to begin with in better times?). Paper sales are falling hard, digital is the way forward - which does rely on mass appeal and clickbait to varying degrees.

Some papers still do decent investigative journalism, it's not like it's dead and gone. The Sunday Business Post is pretty decent from time to time, I'm sure there are others.

The link in the OP is just an opinion piece, so I don't pay it or others like it much heed usually.

s7ryf3925pivug · 06-10-2018 01:33PM

The herald and independent are rags.

TOMs WIFE · 06-10-2018 01:51PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

People are mixing up the opinion pieces/entertainment/clickbait stuff that's very popular online with the physical paper (which has this sort of stuff towards the back).

The link in the OP is just an opinion piece, so I don't pay it or others like it much heed usually.

Agree to a point. But this piece of crap article is spread across page 2 and 3.

06-10-2018 06:26PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I like to buy the Sindo at the weekend.

I can't say anybody would be surprised at that revelation.

TOMs WIFE · 06-10-2018 06:57PM

Marvin Loud Mattress wrote: »

The herald and independent are rags.

That sums it up.

TOMs WIFE · 07-10-2018 01:07PM

TOMs WIFE wrote: »

That sums it up.

It's Sunday Indo day!

07-10-2018 01:10PM

The Independent used to be a decent paper in the 90s.

Now it's just tabloid nonsense and covered by very limited journalists.

TOMs WIFE · 07-10-2018 02:12PM

RoboKlopp wrote: »

The Independent used to be a decent paper in the 90s.

Now it's just tabloid nonsense and covered by very limited journalists.

Limited in quality not quantity

Odhinn · 07-10-2018 02:16PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I like to buy the Sindo at the weekend. There’s a fair bit of reading in it, and they are masters at winding up humourless Republicans and far left socialist types who are so prevalent on social media platforms.

You realise that Barry Egan, Harris and Dud Edwards actually take themselves seriously?

mynamejeff · 07-10-2018 02:21PM

Odhinn wrote: »

You realise that Barry Egan, Harris and Dud Edwards actually take themselves seriously?

doesn't mean anyone else has to

TOMs WIFE · 07-10-2018 02:33PM

Odhinn wrote: »

You realise that Barry Egan, Harris and Dud Edwards actually take themselves seriously?

Egan. God my head hurts.

Odhinn · 07-10-2018 02:39PM

TOMs WIFE wrote: »

Egan. God my head hurts.

You might want a few scoops and to take a seat before clicking.......

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b&biw=1600&bih=887&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=Dgy6W-LVBszPrgT2h4XIBQ&q=barry+egan+independent&oq=barry+egan+independent&gs_l=img.3..0i24k1.6561.9565.0.10285.11.11.0.0.0.0.157.1422.0j11.11.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.5.687...0j0i67k1j0i7i30k1j0i7i5i30k1j0i8i30k1.0.3kvQhNo0WkE#imgdii=0fHFB1NJEyxVkM:&imgrc=S0x9k5RpbTzOiM:

stateofflux · 07-10-2018 02:41PM

There is a big difference between the online edition and print.

Online is awful dumbed down click bait filled and is not maintained properly

I think this is deliberate

Print edition has more in it and Sindo has more thorough quality 2 sided opinion sections and business analysis etc

TOMs WIFE · 07-10-2018 02:53PM

stateofflux wrote: »

There is a big difference between the online edition and print.

Online is awful dumbed down click bait filled and is not maintained properly

I think this is deliberate

Print edition has more in it and Sindo has more thorough quality 2 sided opinion sections and business analysis etc

The paper has the trash that is the subject of this thread

stateofflux · 07-10-2018 07:10PM

TOMs WIFE wrote: »

The paper has the trash that is the subject of this thread

the link was to an online article. paper edition not specified by OP.

The quality of journalism was

JohnnyFlash · 07-10-2018 11:13PM

I thought this was a very human and well written piece by the Sindo.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-felt-that-i-had-no-right-to-grieve-for-my-daughter-mother-of-tragic-woman-at-centre-of-garda-video-controversy-37392129.html

Touched on the nature of addiction, mental illness, the availability of drugs, and the devastation that psychosis inducing cannabis can have on people.

pauliebdub · 07-10-2018 11:21PM

The paper itself is not too bad, ok for a flick through and some of its columnists are ok as are it's sports section.

The website is atrocious though, seems to be a lot of hard luck stories with a go fund me account details at the end also a weird obsession with Kathryn Thomas and Amy Huberman.

JohnnyFlash · 07-10-2018 11:34PM

pauliebdub wrote: »

The paper itself is not too bad, ok for a flick through and some of its columnists are ok as are it's sports section.

The website is atrocious though, seems to be a lot of hard luck stories with a go fund me account details at the end also a weird obsession with Kathryn Thomas and Amy Huberman.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys. Very few people pay for a newspaper these days. So online websites have to try and gain clicks by publishing rubbish. I'd speculate that the quality of journalism graduate is the same as it ever was.

Damien360 · 07-10-2018 11:44PM

pauliebdub wrote: »

The paper itself is not too bad, ok for a flick through and some of its columnists are ok as are it's sports section.

The website is atrocious though, seems to be a lot of hard luck stories with a go fund me account details at the end also a weird obsession with Kathryn Thomas and Amy Huberman.

For the guts of €3 for a daily paper written in the style of a rag it's atrocious. Content is tiny.

Sunday Indo is €3.20 for advertising and "celebrity" opinions and bar the headline page has little to no news.

We were daily buyers (honest) for years and had to stop due to quality. Online stuff is clickbait and not enticing ether my wife or myself to online full paper. If the current online free stuff is the gateway drug to purchasing the full online edition, it is failing miserably.

Birneybau · 07-10-2018 11:59PM

Am I the only one to notice Independent Newspapers obsession with the Garrihy family? (Aoinhinn, good looking wan, was in Fair City, and her sisters and occasionally mother).

Anyway, I think the best paper going is The Times Ireland Edition.

Some of the best writers in the country in my opinion (and a column by that twat David Quinn that I sometimes force myself to read at least some)

TOMs WIFE · 10-10-2018 08:09AM

Birneybau wrote: »

Am I the only one to notice Independent Newspapers obsession with the Garrihy family? (Aoinhinn, good looking wan, was in Fair City, and her sisters and occasionally mother).

Anyway, I think the best paper going is The Times Ireland Edition.

Some of the best writers in the country in my opinion (and a column by that twat David Quinn that I sometimes force myself to read at least some)

I actually like reading David Quinns stuff, at least another view and not all one sided.

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