RTÉ submits request to Dept to expand TV services but TV3 objects

The Cush · 12-08-2018 11:51pm #1

Article in the Sunday Indo - TV3 objects to RTE plan to expand its television services

Commercial broadcaster protests and urges broadcaster to tackle losses

Commercial broadcaster TV3 has strongly objected to plans by RTE to extend its television services, arguing that the broadcaster should tackle its ongoing losses before adding new services.

RTE made a formal submission for the services to the Department of Communications on June 25, with the department seeking stakeholder views in recent weeks.

As part of RTE's new five-year strategy, it proposes new services including an RTE 2 +1 channel - which airs the main channel an hour later - while extending the hours of its RTE 1 +1 station, which currently airs after 7pm each day.

TV3 - which will soon be rebranded as Virgin - is strongly objecting to the plan.

Delta2113 · 13-08-2018 8:41am

A new plus one channel RTE2 +1 and extending RTE1 +1 - if that's the best they can do - I give up. RTE3 is needed.

I detest plus one channels.

The Cush · 13-08-2018 8:43am

We don't have the full details of what was included in the submission.

dulpit · 13-08-2018 9:49am

Do +1 channels make any money? In this day and age of the RTE player, DVRs and the like, why bother? Fix the current channels, fix the player, fix the likes of News Now, they would be better options...

13-08-2018 11:07am

dulpit wrote: »

Do +1 channels make any money? In this day and age of the RTE player, DVRs and the like, why bother? Fix the current channels, fix the player, fix the likes of News Now, they would be better options..

.

Hopefully at least RTE1+1 will go to 24 hrs a day.

Ireland trains · 13-08-2018 3:40pm

Maby rte 2+1 will take over from news now
They could alos use the plus one channel for additional sports.
Would the RTE 2+1 be on all day or only evening

political analyst · 13-08-2018 5:13pm

Ireland trains wrote: »

Maby rte 2+1 will take over from news now
They could alos use the plus one channel for additional sports.
Would the RTE 2+1 be on all day or only evening

No way!

That would mean even less choice on Saorview.

RTÉ News Now is useful for the following reasons:

. Catching a repeat of the latest bulletin - or the Week in Politics - without going onto the Internet.

. The simulcast of Euronews overnight - bringing rolling coverage of world news to those who cannot have cable or satelllite.

. The live broadcasting of some news events, e.g. ceremonies, press conferences.

. The broadcasting of sporting events to which RTÉ has the rights but cannot broadcast on One or 2 due to other sporting events on those channels, e.g. Olympic events and Gaelic, Euro and World Cup matches when two matches are played at the same time.

icdg · 13-08-2018 5:41pm

RTE News Now been incredibly useful this summer due to the proliferation of sporting events and, for the first time, simultaneous GAA matches. For example last Sunday week there was GAA on RTE One (Donegal v Tyrone), Two (the wrap of Clare v Galway, which was followed by the Women’s Field Hockey World Cup final)and News Now (Dublin v Roscommon) at the same time. Given that RTE seemed to previously have a stance that they couldn’t for regulatory reasons show any sport on the channel it was a surprise but a welcome one. It’d be a pity, given how terrible streaming on the RTE player has been in the past, if they were to lose that extra broadcast outlet for sport now.

liam7831 · 13-08-2018 5:42pm

Delta2113 wrote:

A new plus one channel RTE2 +1 and extending RTE1 +1 - if that's the best they can do - I give up. RTE3 is needed.

Delta2113 wrote:

I detest plus one channels.

+1

Harry Palmr · 13-08-2018 5:45pm

dulpit wrote: »

Do +1 channels make any money? In this day and age of the RTE player, DVRs and the like, why bother? Fix the current channels, fix the player, fix the likes of News Now, they would be better options...

In theory they do as advertising income (your ad is seen twice as all) takes account of the extra transmission costs. Mind you I'd not be shocked if RTE forgot to add the +1 rates

I'd have more sympathy for Virgin if their channels weren't so shoddy on saorview.

Ireland trains · 13-08-2018 6:42pm

political analyst wrote: »

Ireland trains wrote: »

Maby rte 2+1 will take over from news now
They could alos use the plus one channel for additional sports.
Would the RTE 2+1 be on all day or only evening

No way!

That would mean even less choice on Saorview.

RTÉ News Now is useful for the following reasons:

. Catching a repeat of the latest bulletin - or the Week in Politics - without going onto the Internet.

. The simulcast of Euronews overnight - bringing rolling coverage of world news to those who cannot have cable or satelllite.

. The live broadcasting of some news events, e.g. ceremonies, press conferences.

. The broadcasting of sporting events to which RTÉ has the rights but cannot broadcast on One or 2 due to other sporting events on those channels, e.g. Olympic events and Gaelic, Euro and World Cup matches when two matches are played at the same time.

I personally think rte news now is very good (especially for sports) but i was referring to RTE wanting to get rid of the channel

Elmo · 13-08-2018 6:46pm

It would be nice to see this proposal but again the audience are kept in the dark.

I would say that this is what the proposal says, but in about 20 pages:-

1. News Now to be axed
2. RTÉ ONE +1 to be extended to a full channel
3. RTÉ 2 +1 TO to air from 7pm each night
4. Removal of RTÉjr from RTÉ2

So basically your getting nowt new just News Now replaced by RTÉ ONE +1 and RTÉ ONE+1 replaced by RTÉ2+1

but said in 20 pages.

political analyst · 13-08-2018 7:14pm

Elmo wrote: »

It would be nice to see this proposal but again the audience are kept in the dark.

I would say that this is what the proposal says, but in about 20 pages:-

1. News Now to be axed
2. RTÉ ONE +1 to be extended to a full channel
3. RTÉ 2 +1 TO to air from 7pm each night
4. Removal of RTÉjr from RTÉ2

So basically your getting nowt new just News Now replaced by RTÉ ONE +1 and RTÉ ONE+1 replaced by RTÉ2+1

but said in 20 pages.

What evidence is there that the idea of axing News Now is in the document submitted by RTÉ?

Tigerandahalf · 13-08-2018 7:27pm

We have known for a while that the News Now channel was going to be asked?
https://www.independent.ie/business/media/rte-to-axe-tv-news-channel-as-services-hit-by-financial-woes-36393796.html

So I guess as Elmo says they will probably just replace it with a zero cost +1 channel. I can see why Virgin/tv3 are up in arms as the +1 channel would be likely to attract extra ad revenue.

Realistically these channels need to go to HD. Who wants to watch a live sports event in SD quality when over on the bbc or itv it is in HD. I know there are costs for carriage in HD so we are mostly likely to see a +1 channel in SD.

The rte news now channel was handy when the storm/snow was happening and the info on it was relevant to Ireland only - that was a very valuable service. Would that be lost or could it be run on the +1 channel? I am sure a big bone of contention here is whether the +1 channel can carry ads.

Elmo · 13-08-2018 7:35pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

I can see why Virgin/tv3 are up in arms as the +1 channel would be likely to attract extra ad revenue.

+1 generally split the current audience of the channel, rarely adding new audiences. If TV3 honestly beleive that RTÉ might gain an audience with +1s then they can always launch +1 channels of their own across all platforms.

When I say split I mean take a few people away from the live channel.

Tigerandahalf · 13-08-2018 7:44pm

Elmo wrote: »

+1 generally split the current audience of the channel, rarely adding new audiences. If TV3 honestly beleive that RTÉ might gain an audience with +1s then they can always launch +1 channels of their own across all platforms.

When I say split I mean take a few people away from the live channel.

I guess it depends where on the epg the +1 channels are. Some epgs now have them in a separate tab section. They certainly have a draw, like you are watching a live sport event and have just missed an event, like the athletics last night where I missed Ciara MaGeehan running. You could catch it again on the +1 channel. I ended up watching it on the timeshift on the bbc. The Saorview Connect box still has no timeshift function.

With catchup tv improving I do wonder whether +1 channels will have a future.

brick man · 13-08-2018 7:53pm

I would get it very hard to see minister approving the axing of News Now channel . As said in earlier posts it was to the fore during storms Emma and Ophelia and rebroadcast on RTE One . When you go to hotels pubs airports etc you will often come across news now being shown . But RTE have never been given a chance with it not being allowed to advertise on the channel . But RTE are seriously lacking that the first tv news is not until 1pm now and last bulletin at 9pm which is just not good enough given we subsidise it . I think they are focusing too much on online when they are primarily there to provide a radio and television service, yes focus online but not at the expense of tv.
As for TV3 objecting to RTE proposals surely nobody thought anything different would happen.....

Tigerandahalf · 13-08-2018 8:22pm

There is an argument to be made that the News Now channel should be state funded (outside of other contributions). It should be there to provide necessary information in times of storms and other emergencies. There is no guarantee you would have an internet service in a major storm with fibre being run along poles.

It could also be used in times of elections and other important occasions and have it on display in public areas like train/bus stations, hospitals, etc. Whether that is enough to warrant funding of a sole station with no ads is another matter. Clearly the bosses in rte see no future with it.

SPDUB · 13-08-2018 8:26pm

It's interesting to note that the people who would actually use these services , you know the viewers , apparently aren't stakeholders

JDxtra · 13-08-2018 9:04pm

TV3 love a good objection.

They've caused the mess with Saorview and are continuing to be a pain in the neck here. Thought that might change when Virgin took over, but I guess not.

fritzelly · 13-08-2018 9:12pm

Need some kind of good excuse to increase the licence fee.
Seriously losing millions but lets spend more money to show repeats again an hour later

political analyst · 13-08-2018 10:10pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

There is an argument to be made that the News Now channel should be state funded (outside of other contributions). It should be there to provide necessary information in times of storms and other emergencies. There is no guarantee you would have an internet service in a major storm with fibre being run along poles.

It could also be used in times of elections and other important occasions and have it on display in public areas like train/bus stations, hospitals, etc. Whether that is enough to warrant funding of a sole station with no ads is another matter. Clearly the bosses in rte see no future with it.

Isn't News Now run on a shoestring budget anyway?

political analyst · 13-08-2018 10:13pm

brick man wrote: »

I would get it very hard to see minister approving the axing of News Now channel . As said in earlier posts it was to the fore during storms Emma and Ophelia and rebroadcast on RTE One . When you go to hotels pubs airports etc you will often come across news now being shown . But RTE have never been given a chance with it not being allowed to advertise on the channel . But RTE are seriously lacking that the first tv news is not until 1pm now and last bulletin at 9pm which is just not good enough given we subsidise it . I think they are focusing too much on online when they are primarily there to provide a radio and television service, yes focus online but not at the expense of tv.
As for TV3 objecting to RTE proposals surely nobody thought anything different would happen.....

All the more reason for the Department of Communications to take RTÉ down a peg or two!

political analyst · 13-08-2018 10:32pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

We have known for a while that the News Now channel was going to be asked?
https://www.independent.ie/business/media/rte-to-axe-tv-news-channel-as-services-hit-by-financial-woes-36393796.html

So I guess as Elmo says they will probably just replace it with a zero cost +1 channel. I can see why Virgin/tv3 are up in arms as the +1 channel would be likely to attract extra ad revenue.

Realistically these channels need to go to HD. Who wants to watch a live sports event in SD quality when over on the bbc or itv it is in HD. I know there are costs for carriage in HD so we are mostly likely to see a +1 channel in SD.

The rte news now channel was handy when the storm/snow was happening and the info on it was relevant to Ireland only - that was a very valuable service. Would that be lost or could it be run on the +1 channel? I am sure a big bone of contention here is whether the +1 channel can carry ads.

It hasn't been decided yet!

Elmo · 13-08-2018 10:55pm

brick man wrote: »

I think they are focusing too much on online when they are primarily there to provide a radio and television service, yes focus online but not at the expense of tv.

Also RTÉ have very little content and short form content is really only suitable to YOUTUBE. When BBC||! went on line the British Government made it clear that those shows ordinarily on broadcast BBC ||! should be shown on BBC2 and/or one. I don't know how far that stipulation goes. Content should be platform neutral IMO.

It hasn't been decided yet!

No but RTÉ have stated as much in the last few months. While a decision has not been made and is unlikely to be made by the current minister, RTÉ will want it got rid of.

IMO RTÉ should ask for what they wanted in the first place.

Advertising on RTÉ News Now and replacing RTÉ ONE +1 with RTÉ GOLD/PLUS/THREE or what ever they want to call it.

fritzelly · 13-08-2018 11:08pm

News Now is a pointless channel - repeating the same stuff every 5 minutes
If you want a public service broadcast then it's very easy to do in times of apocalyptic events (plenty of spectrum available) - I'm surprised RTE haven't requested full time news readers for it. What advertiser would pay to advertise on the channel? Sky News is a loss making channel with all the advertising and they are a full on 24 hour news channel. What incentive would News Now have for advertisers.
Viewership on RTE+1 is minimal, absolutely no reason for RTE2 to have a +1
Someone mentioned above for Gold/plus/three - they can't manage their money enough to provide programming for the two channels alone - summer programming consists of in excess of 50% repeats (some repeated more than once). Rest of the year not much better.

political analyst · 13-08-2018 11:37pm

fritzelly wrote: »

News Now is a pointless channel - repeating the same stuff every 5 minutes
If you want a public service broadcast then it's very easy to do in times of apocalyptic events (plenty of spectrum available) - I'm surprised RTE haven't requested full time news readers for it. What advertiser would pay to advertise on the channel? Sky News is a loss making channel with all the advertising and they are a full on 24 hour news channel. What incentive would News Now have for advertisers.
Viewership on RTE+1 is minimal, absolutely no reason for RTE2 to have a +1
Someone mentioned above for Gold/plus/three - they can't manage their money enough to provide programming for the two channels alone - summer programming consists of in excess of 50% repeats (some repeated more than once). Rest of the year not much better.

Tell that to those terrestrial viewers who watched Dublin v Roscommon on that channel!

Tigerandahalf · 14-08-2018 8:27am

The bigger problem for rte is being able to showcase sporting events (the big audience draws) across multiple channels. Putting live sport on an sd channel like News Now is a really poor offering.
I don't know what way it will be managed in the future - maybe they will put hd feeds online.

Really until the government steps in and forces carriers to put their main channel in HD on the saorview platform the future for saorview is bleak especially with Virgin and others going after more and more live sport. It seems a matter of time before rte loses the key gaa games.

With the younger audiences watching more and more online you can see why rte want to move there. But with so much competition there you do wonder how rte will keep a share of the market.

There is a big push with Virgin at the moment to push targeted ads with their new boxes. This has been happening on facebook and others for years and is how itv and others are going in forcing you to sign up for catchup tv with your age and gender included. Rte will go down this road too.

What is the split between rte's ad revenue and the licence fee revenue I wonder?

DavyD_83 · 14-08-2018 8:43am

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

There is an argument to be made that the News Now channel should be state funded (outside of other contributions). It should be there to provide necessary information in times of storms and other emergencies. There is no guarantee you would have an internet service in a major storm with fibre being run along poles.

It could also be used in times of elections and other important occasions and have it on display in public areas like train/bus stations, hospitals, etc. Whether that is enough to warrant funding of a sole station with no ads is another matter. Clearly the bosses in rte see no future with it.

I'd say there's an argument that the entire RTE offering could/should be reduced to News Now, and perhaps 1 other channel for current affairs, live sport, documentary and other items.
As a National Broadcaster, what I want and expect from them, and would accept contributing to is information services, and factual or opinion based output.
I see no reason why they should be ploughing money into Fair City, Hollywood Movies, and some genuinely good American TV that they bury in the night-time slots.

Actually interesting to read:
Public Service Broadcasting Charter

political analyst · 14-08-2018 11:15am

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

The bigger problem for rte is being able to showcase sporting events (the big audience draws) across multiple channels. Putting live sport on an sd channel like News Now is a really poor offering.
I don't know what way it will be managed in the future - maybe they will put hd feeds online.

Really until the government steps in and forces carriers to put their main channel in HD on the saorview platform the future for saorview is bleak especially with Virgin and others going after more and more live sport. It seems a matter of time before rte loses the key gaa games.

With the younger audiences watching more and more online you can see why rte want to move there. But with so much competition there you do wonder how rte will keep a share of the market.

There is a big push with Virgin at the moment to push targeted ads with their new boxes. This has been happening on facebook and others for years and is how itv and others are going in forcing you to sign up for catchup tv with your age and gender included. Rte will go down this road too.

What is the split between rte's ad revenue and the licence fee revenue I wonder?

Saorview will not cease to exist.

RTÉ is legally obliged to provide a terrestrial public broadcasting service.

Furthermore, Virgin Media Ireland would lose ad revenue if it pulled TV3 from Saorview.

Elmo · 14-08-2018 7:16pm

DavyD_83 wrote: »

I'd say there's an argument that the entire RTE offering could/should be reduced to News Now, and perhaps 1 other channel for current affairs, live sport, documentary and other items.
As a National Broadcaster, what I want and expect from them, and would accept contributing to is information services, and factual or opinion based output.
I see no reason why they should be ploughing money into Fair City, Hollywood Movies, and some genuinely good American TV that they bury in the night-time slots.

Actually interesting to read:
Public Service Broadcasting Charter

There is but its not a great one. Firstly I agree with other on the forum that state that RTÉ is filled with repeats, and this isn't just during the summer months. RTÉ have, over the last 7 or so years, backed out of producing programming. I agree that they over spend on imports (in 2017 it was 25million, up 3million from 2016) meantime Children's Content was at just 3.9million in 2017 (a 3million decrease from 2016).

RTÉ have plently of content and could avoid repeats if they wanted to, RTÉ one averages 25% while RTÉ2 averages 45% of repeats in prime time, RTÉ may say its to allow viewers catch up but when the repeat property shows from 2016 in 2018 for the 6th time I some how doubt that its purely for catch up and more for filler.

But what could RTÉ have done with RTÉ NEWS NOW. Well they did one thing and that was to provide clashing coverage of the Olympics, World Cup and other sports over the last 2 years, it took them nearly 7 years to figure that out. So that's a plus. But then there is the rest of NEWS NOW, which is just a 24/7 repeat of SIX ONE.

I don't expect RTÉ to spend masses amounts of money on NEWS NOW, but IMO RTÉ could never be thrifty when it comes to NEWS NOW, its problem lies in the fact that RTÉ don't know what to do with a sheostring budget. If they did, NEWS NOW would provide the following schedule

6:00 AS RTÉ ONE
7:00 Repeat of RTÉ2 sports news programmes such as the Sunday Game, Against the Head etc
8:00 Repeat of RTÉ ONE current affairs programmes such as Prime Time, TWIP, Claire Byrne, Leaders Questions and Oireachtas Report.
9:00 As RTÉ ONE
9:30 As RTÉ ONE current affairs shows
10:30 A mix of reports from the day, without news presenters, ala EURONEWS
11:00 A sorely missed national news service from RTÉ2
12:00 to 07:00 as 10:30
07:00 Morning Ireland with proper edits during news reports, no need to see the studio webcam.
09:00 as Prime Time Schedule from 7pm last night
11:00 a round of up stories, ala EURONEWS
13:00 LUNCH TIME NEWS
13:30 NUACHT TG4
14:00 As 7pm to 9pm
16:00 News Round Up, simlar in style to EuroNews
17:30 Nuacht RTÉ le TG4

The could even mix news stories via their EBU partners during the EuroNews style news portions. Of course it would be nice if they could sell advertising revenue on the channel.

But sure easier to repeat a repeat of a repeat on RTÉ 2+1

dublinman1990 · 15-08-2018 8:13pm

If RTÉ wanted to keep News Now intact with their proposed new channels; the ideal situation here is that if they were flush with LF money is to have live News Now bulletins from say 9am up until midnight that are presented by their own team of reporters mixed in with their other news programmes throughout the day. This idea in my mind would be very much like what BBC World News or their domestic News Channel have done for several years.

The only danger for this idea though for News Now is that there is currently a severe lack of Irish daily news content that would make it look more attractive to global viewers around the world. The channel is broadcast online worldwide as well as with the main RTÉ channels here. So if any person outside of Ireland wanted to watch the channel at that moment right now; most of that content is repeated from earlier in the day and that is not good to compel viewers to stay with the channel. Live & up to the minute news is what draws real numbers of viewers onto a news channel because it's done in real time. RTÉ in my mind do not have these resources available to them because it is too much of a commitment to try & think of ways to give any real value from it's news content.

For it's own live bulletins on RTÉ One; it's viewership is very impressive to see that they are the number one news source in this country. But when you try & extend that idea to the wider world which includes a wider audience that sees other news channels in it's way. It is too much of a hassle for RTÉ to widen that effort to get an audience outside of Ireland for news content.

fritzelly · 15-08-2018 8:18pm

Good god - an hosted News Now channel? Sends shivers down my spine. I'd rather stick to seeing the inside of radio station.

Elmo · 15-08-2018 9:40pm

dublinman1990 wrote: »

The only danger for this idea though for News Now is that there is currently a severe lack of Irish daily news content that would make it look more attractive to global viewers around the world.

Most news channels role out the same news on an hourly basis. So lack of nothing to talkabout doesn't stop non stop talking about nothing. RTÉ News Now could use BBC NI and UTV reports along with some reports from other EBU.

TBH I don't think News Now should just focus on Current Affairs. As I said most weeks RTÉ2 have 4 hour long sports news programmes. (Against the Head, Soccer Republic, The Sunday Game and so on).

IMO News Now on a shoestring as potential, perhaps advertising might help.

TBH far better than an extra part-time +1 channel that they are proposing.

SPDUB · 04-10-2018 2:51pm

A poster on Digital Spy Richardcoulter has reported that RTE have suggested setting up a channel for Irish Sign Language programmes within 3 years

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2303000/rte-are-thinking-of-providing-a-seperate-channel-for-in-vision-signed-programming#latest

....... RTE have said that (within three years) they think it better to provide the service by putting out signed programming on a separate channel. The deaf community don't want this as they don't see the point, but RTE say that the signer prevents hearing people from seeing what's going on.

For anyone who can watch it here's the programme ( the item is apparently about halfway through )

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bml1r3

Elmo · 04-10-2018 8:49pm

SPDUB wrote: »

A poster on Digital Spy Richardcoulter has reported that RTE have suggested setting up a channel for Irish Sign Language programmes within 3 years

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2303000/rte-are-thinking-of-providing-a-seperate-channel-for-in-vision-signed-programming#latest

For anyone who can watch it here's the programme ( the item is apparently about halfway through )

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bml1r3

Really RTÉ could put it behind a red button rather then an extra channel, however no matter how annoying a mixed channel with signing would probably get as many viewers as RTÉ PLUS/THREE. It would be great to see that report.

fritzelly · 04-10-2018 8:54pm

Another way for RTE to spend Joe Publics money and justify some more overpaid workers to run a station doing the same thing as RTE.
Even the UK doesn't have a dedicated signed station - just repeats late at night. What makes them think tiny old Ireland can justify the cost. Or maybe they are eyeing up that 30 million. In other news (and other threads) Naughten is looking at a licence system that will mean people pay less for their licence, if you read between the lines what that really means is 1% pay a few euro less and 99% pay more for the same crap.

Elmo · 04-10-2018 9:17pm

fritzelly wrote: »

Another way for RTE to spend Joe Publics money and justify some more overpaid workers to run a station doing the same thing as RTE.
Even the UK doesn't have a dedicated signed station - just repeats late at night. What makes them think tiny old Ireland can justify the cost. Or maybe they are eyeing up that 30 million. In other news (and other threads) Naughten is looking at a licence system that will mean people pay less for their licence, if you read between the lines what that really means is 1% pay a few euro less and 99% pay more for the same crap.

RTÉ are a public service broadcaster and it is not as if they have ever severed the deaf community all that well in the past. The channel won't be filled with deaf programming it will basically repeat programmes from ONE and 2 with signing, I see little in terms of cost other than the hiring of a few signers. I'd much rather the spend their money on signing than on Presenter's Pay. It will possible only air from 7pm each night.

fritzelly · 04-10-2018 9:22pm

Elmo wrote: »

RTÉ are a public service broadcaster and it is not as if they have ever severed the deaf community all that well in the past. The channel won't be filled with deaf programming it will basically repeat programmes from ONE and 2 with signing, I see little in terms of cost other than the hiring of a few signers. I'd much rather the spend their money on signing than on Presenter's Pay. It will possible only air from 7pm each night.

They already have RTE+1 (which is almost totally pointless, actually is there a point, I've never watched it) - whats the need for a separate channel showing the same stuff again (if only for hard of hearing?)
RTEjr gets almost as much viewership as RTE+1

https://www.tamireland.ie/downloads/august-reach-and-share-figures/

loyatemu · 04-10-2018 9:43pm

put the signed programs on the +1 channel?

05-10-2018 6:18pm

They should put RTÈ Gold on FM, get a presenter line up and advertisers on it and I reckon it would do well over the whole country!

lertsnim · 06-10-2018 9:59am

zorro2566 wrote: »

They should put RTÈ Gold on FM, get a presenter line up and advertisers on it and I reckon it would do well over the whole country!

And slowly morph into something completely different to maximise advertising revenues.

Elmo · 06-10-2018 7:23pm

BTW RTÉ aren't looking for extra service, they are looking to replace certain services with other services. I doubt we'll be getting RTÉ2 +1 and a signed channel. It's likely RTÉ SIGNED will replace RTÉ1 +1 and RTÉ1 +1 will replace RTÉ NEWS NOW.

Ireland trains · 07-10-2018 10:36am

Does anyone else think rte 3 would be good and they can have trte moved from 2.
Then it could be like
Rte1 : news and CA, documentaries, factual and talk shows
Rte2 : irish reality shows (eg this crowded house), sport, some nature shows and 1 min news updates.
Rte 3: TRTE, comedy, drama, soaps and a mix of other stuff.
Could rte make another episode of winning streak (or 2) but its a faster pace with less talk about the players and a chance you wont win anything.
Really should bring back newsfeed on RTE 2 and have it hourly from 6-10pm

Elmo · 09-10-2018 12:03am

SPDUB wrote: »

A poster on Digital Spy Richardcoulter has reported that RTE have suggested setting up a channel for Irish Sign Language programmes within 3 years

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2303000/rte-are-thinking-of-providing-a-seperate-channel-for-in-vision-signed-programming#latest

For anyone who can watch it here's the programme ( the item is apparently about halfway through )

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bml1r3

Well that’s a total misinterpretation of what was signed, the interviewee signed that RTÉ would like to have it [the national anthem] signed from a studio on a separate channel [in other words on RTÉ News Now as it plays on RTÉ 2].

They are not setting up a new signing channel nor have they suggested that.

https://twitter.com/darrenbyrneisl/status/1047487812122169344?s=21

PacMan · 09-10-2018 6:13am

I would like to see RTE News Now, drop the RTE branding, and become "News Now" for the mostly international audience and reflect all news output from all television broadcasters both from Ireland and Northern Ireland :

The schedule would perhaps include the following :
Virgin Media TV : Ireland AM
RTE News at One
Virgin Media News at 5:30
RTE Six One
Virgin Media News at 8pm
Prime Time
Tonight with Ivan and Matt

and also BBC Newsline and UTV Live shows also

I am sure that there are so many shows in the RTE library that would be suitable also, such as the old Radharc programmes, etc (Just and idea)
And BBC World overnight or some other network.

Just an idea

political analyst · 09-10-2018 11:53am

If RTÉ News Now ceases to be a TV channel (the app of the same name might continue in that scenario), could Euronews be allowed to broadcast on Saorview free-of-charge on the grounds that RTÉ is a member of the EBU, which founded Euronews?

Ireland trains · 09-10-2018 11:56am

For the budget 2019 coverage, have rte cancelled the 1 oclock news for today.

On another note does anyone know what the revamped rte newsroom will look like.
Also how much bigger will the studio be and i know that it isnt much.
Cheers

political analyst · 09-10-2018 12:43pm

Ireland trains wrote: »

For the budget 2019 coverage, have rte cancelled the 1 oclock news for today.

On another note does anyone know what the revamped rte newsroom will look like.
Also how much bigger will the studio be and i know that it isnt much.
Cheers

The coverage started at 12:40. Maybe there was a news summary at that time. The News at One on Radio 1 started at 12:50 and had its bulletin at that time.

political analyst · 09-10-2018 12:44pm

PacMan wrote: »

I would like to see RTE News Now, drop the RTE branding, and become "News Now" for the mostly international audience and reflect all news output from all television broadcasters both from Ireland and Northern Ireland :

The schedule would perhaps include the following :
Virgin Media TV : Ireland AM
RTE News at One
Virgin Media News at 5:30
RTE Six One
Virgin Media News at 8pm
Prime Time
Tonight with Ivan and Matt

and also BBC Newsline and UTV Live shows also

I am sure that there are so many shows in the RTE library that would be suitable also, such as the old Radharc programmes, etc (Just and idea)
And BBC World overnight or some other network.

Just an idea

TV3 co-operating with RTÉ? Not a chance!

PacMan · 09-10-2018 2:13pm

political analyst wrote: »

TV3 co-operating with RTÉ? Not a chance!

Yes, you are correct.
But it would be a pretty good station for those living overseas.

RTÉ submits request to Dept to expand TV services but TV3 objects

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