Ulster Bank League 2018-2019 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

Chico Flores · 02-10-2018 12:20AM

madds wrote: »

Was at the Mu Barnhall/Rainey OB match. Home side had the BP in the bag after 30 mins. Rainey eventually got going and made it a much more even contest after the break but damage had already been done.

Assume it will still be those two sides and Greystones fighting it out.

Was it hit and run by Barnhall or better side on the day?

The Lost Sheep · 02-10-2018 01:41PM

This weeks fixtures
Friday
1A
8pm Clontarf v Lansdowne
2A
8pm Old Crescent v Cashel
2B
8pm Skerries v Barnhall
Saturday
1A
Cork Con v Shannon
Garryowen v Dublin University
UCD v UCC
Young Munster v Terenure
1B
Ballymena v Malone
Buccaneers v Naas
Armagh v Old Wesley
Old Belvedere v Banbridge
St Marys v Ballynahinch
2A
Dolphin v Navan
Galwegians v UL Bohs
Highfield v Queens University
Nenagh Ormond v Blackrock
2B
Belfast Harlequins v Sundays Well
Greystones v Corinthians
Rainey Old Boys v Wanderers
Sligo v Dungannon
2C
Bangor v Thomond
Bruff v City of Derry
Omagh v Malahide
Seapoint v Midleton
Tullamore v Ballina

CMcsporty · 02-10-2018 02:18PM

telmah wrote: »

Was at the UL Bohs-Highfield match.Highfield were far superior in nearly every facet of play.The Bohs scrum was strong for the first forty but Highfield's fitness was a huge factor leading to a 6-1 try victory.(Kevin O Byrne doing a lot of S and C work with Highfield during pre-season.)

Just curious to know if this is the Kevin O’Byrne of Munster… & UL Bohemians?
I've heard good things about him.
p.s. this is not his mom!

The Lost Sheep · 02-10-2018 02:25PM

CMcsporty wrote: »

Just curious to know if this is the Kevin O’Byrne of Munster… & UL Bohemians?
I've heard good things about him.
p.s. this is not his mom!

It would. He's from Highfield. Won an all ireland u18 title in 2009 with them.

madds · 02-10-2018 04:59PM

Chico Flores wrote: »

Assume it will still be those two sides and Greystones fighting it out.

Was it hit and run by Barnhall or better side on the day?

In fairness they were the better side on the day. Rainey's outhalf didn't want to know about contact - he looked pretty light, think he previously played full back for them. Their 9 and 14 stood out.

Number 137 · 02-10-2018 08:59PM

The 9 and 14 for Barnhall or Rainey?

The Lost Sheep · 02-10-2018 11:40PM

Chico Flores wrote: »

Navan have lost players and a new coaching team in place too.

But they were promoted and on up.
Nenagh are already in trouble in terms of both props and outside backs in general..

Interesting to see from IRFU site Navan have former Munster academy scrum half Brian Haugh playing for them.

Stainalert · 02-10-2018 11:55PM

1A
Clontarf v Lansdowne - should be a great start to 1A - Castle Avenue always a difficult place to go, will be interesting to see how all the Trinity additions go for Tarf. Hopefully we can sneak it.

Cork Con v Shannon - Haven't heard much team news about Con but expect them to be strong. Tough ask for Shannon on their return to 1A but think Con will shade this

Garryowen v Dublin University - Expect Garryowen to challenge very strongly this year and just can't see Trinity competing this week given the players they have lost and the players away with Leinster A

UCD v UCC - Ideal opening fixture for both teams to find their groove. Good time to get UCD with so many players tied up in Celtic Cup. Paul Kiernan likely to make his debut for UCD against his old club. UCC might surprise UCD

Young Munster v Terenure - Terenure have lost a bit of beef up front and I would expect Young Munster to take full advantage of this

1B
Ballymena v Malone - First of many Ulster derbies in 1B this season. Always fancy Ballymena at home but Malone seem to be in a good place so going for an away win

Buccaneers v Naas - Naas have been pretty busy on the recruitment front from what I hear. Expect both these teams to challenge strongly this season. Buccs to win.

Armagh v Old Wesley - Wesley have some decent young players who will need to front up in what I think will be a tricky away trip. I will go with Wesley more because I really don't know enough about Armagh.

Old Belvedere v Banbridge - Belvo look to have a bit more steel to them this year. Would imagine Banbridge are hurting after narrowly missing promotion last season but think Belvo will get the home win

St Marys v Ballynahinch - Think this is going to be a difficult season for Marys - don't think they have the squad. Hinch to win well.

The Lost Sheep · 03-10-2018 12:08AM

Stainalert wrote: »

1A
Clontarf v Lansdowne - should be a great start to 1A - Castle Avenue always a difficult place to go, will be interesting to see how all the Trinity additions go for Tarf. Hopefully we can sneak it.

Cork Con v Shannon - Haven't heard much team news about Con but expect them to be strong. Tough ask for Shannon on their return to 1A but think Con will shade this

Garryowen v Dublin University - Expect Garryowen to challenge very strongly this year and just can't see Trinity competing this week given the players they have lost and the players away with Leinster A

UCD v UCC - Ideal opening fixture for both teams to find their groove. Good time to get UCD with so many players tied up in Celtic Cup. Paul Kiernan likely to make his debut for UCD against his old club. UCC might surprise UCD

Young Munster v Terenure - Terenure have lost a bit of beef up front and I would expect Young Munster to take full advantage of this

1B
Ballymena v Malone - First of many Ulster derbies in 1B this season. Always fancy Ballymena at home but Malone seem to be in a good place so going for an away win

Buccaneers v Naas - Naas have been pretty busy on the recruitment front from what I hear. Expect both these teams to challenge strongly this season. Buccs to win.

Armagh v Old Wesley - Wesley have some decent young players who will need to front up in what I think will be a tricky away trip. I will go with Wesley more because I really don't know enough about Armagh.

Old Belvedere v Banbridge - Belvo look to have a bit more steel to them this year. Would imagine Banbridge are hurting after narrowly missing promotion last season but think Belvo will get the home win

St Marys v Ballynahinch - Think this is going to be a difficult season for Marys - don't think they have the squad. Hinch to win well.

Thoughts on Division2?

Dont think Wesley will have to worry about fronting up. They're always massive and can deal with this Armagh side. Banbridge, Buccs, Ballymena to also win

Chico Flores · 03-10-2018 12:20AM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

But they were promoted and on up.
Nenagh are already in trouble in terms of both props and outside backs in general..

Interesting to see from IRFU site Navan have former Munster academy scrum half Brian Haugh playing for them.

Brian Haugh has been their 9 for 2 seasons. Into his 3rd with them

Alan Kingsley brought him in

The Lost Sheep · 03-10-2018 01:02AM

Chico Flores wrote: »

Brian Haugh has been their 9 for 2 seasons. Into his 3rd with them

Alan Kingsley brought him in

Ah thanks. Had seen the name before but it hadnt clicked how it was for me before

Mc Love · 03-10-2018 08:52AM

Stainalert wrote: »

1A
Cork Con v Shannon - Haven't heard much team news about Con but expect them to be strong. Tough ask for Shannon on their return to 1A but think Con will shade this

Garryowen v Dublin University - Expect Garryowen to challenge very strongly this year and just can't see Trinity competing this week given the players they have lost and the players away with Leinster A

Young Munster v Terenure - Terenure have lost a bit of beef up front and I would expect Young Munster to take full advantage of this

Would have to agree with these predictions, if Shannon can cut out the mistakes, they have fast enough backs that could cause some teams a problem. But Cons away will be a tough first opening game.

Garryowen looked strong in their game against Shannon in the MSC and were lucky to beat YM in the previous match.

iminterestd0 · 03-10-2018 09:25AM

recent cork con side:

1. Gary Duffy
2. Vincent O'Brien
3. Dylan Murphy
4. Brian Hayes
5. Cathal O'Flaherty
6. S Duffy
7. Sonny Dwyer
8. Evan Mintern
9. Jason Higgins
10. Aidan Moynihan
11. Rob Jermyn
12. Niall Kenneally
13. G Higgins
14. B Crowley
15. Liam O’Connell

madds · 03-10-2018 12:58PM

Number 137 wrote: »

The 9 and 14 for Barnhall or Rainey?

Rainey's.

D14Rugby · 03-10-2018 03:13PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Will there be many clubs who will be affected by PPS this season?
45 players cant exceed 100 points through that system.

What's pps for the uneducated among us?

Tarf1234 · 03-10-2018 04:03PM

D14Rugby wrote: »

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Will there be many clubs who will be affected by PPS this season?
45 players cant exceed 100 points through that system.

What's pps for the uneducated among us?

Player points system - 1 point for a home grown player and so forth with 1 point being the lowest possible

shoutman · 03-10-2018 04:17PM

D14Rugby wrote: »

What's pps for the uneducated among us?

See Appendix of this document http://www.irishrugby.ie/downloads/All_Ireland_League_Regs1516.pdf

Although unsure if points have changed since this.

Chico Flores · 03-10-2018 05:39PM

See John Foley has signed for Young Munster from Shannon

Mc Love · 04-10-2018 08:47AM

Chico Flores wrote: »

See John Foley has signed for Young Munster from Shannon

Thats a shock

Chico Flores · 04-10-2018 11:39AM

Trinity Side to play Garryowen

15 - Robert Russell
14 - Colm Hogan
13 - James Hickey
12 - Philip Murphy
11- Hugh Twomey
10 - James Fennelly
9 - Rowan Osbourne

1- Bart Vermeulen
2- Joe Horan
3- Dylan Doyle
4 - Alex McDonald
5- Arthur Greene
6 - Patrick Nulty
7 - Max Kearney
8 - Niall O'Riordan

iminterestd0 · 04-10-2018 11:42AM

Chico Flores wrote: »

Trinity Side to play Garryowen

15 - Robert Russell
14 - Colm Hogan
13 - James Hickey
12 - Philip Murphy
11- Hugh Twomey
10 - James Fennelly
9 - Rowan Osbourne

1- Bart Vermeulen
2- Joe Horan
3- Dylan Doyle
4 - Alex McDonald
5- Arthur Greene
6 - Patrick Nulty
7 - Max Kearney
8 - Niall O'Riordan

That side will struggle this season.

Who is to return from Leinster? Jack Dunne, Jack Kelly, Michael Silvester, Dan Sheehan, Ryan Baird, Thomas Clarkson?, Giuseppe Coyne?

Hope Leinster take a look at Hogan, he is a quality fullback.

Who else is missing?

The Lost Sheep · 04-10-2018 11:59AM

iminterestd0 wrote: »

That side will struggle this season.

Who is to return from Leinster? Jack Dunne, Jack Kelly, Michael Silvester, Dan Sheehan, Ryan Baird, Thomas Clarkson?, Giuseppe Coyne?

Hope Leinster take a look at Hogan, he is a quality fullback.

Who else is missing?

Yeah Trinity could struggle.
Colm considering his involvement with Munster sub academy think he'll be looked at again for place down in Limerick

Highfield team to play Queens
C O’Neill; Paul Stack, Luke Kingston, Brian Murphy, Paul Buckley; S O’Sullivan, Chris Banon; M Dillane, C O’Sullivan, Ian McCarthy, Dave O’Connell, F O’Sullivan, Colm Gallagher, Cathal Gallagher, Miah Cronin.

Stainalert · 04-10-2018 12:22PM

iminterestd0 wrote: »

Chico Flores wrote: »

Trinity Side to play Garryowen

15 - Robert Russell
14 - Colm Hogan
13 - James Hickey
12 - Philip Murphy
11- Hugh Twomey
10 - James Fennelly
9 - Rowan Osbourne

1- Bart Vermeulen
2- Joe Horan
3- Dylan Doyle
4 - Alex McDonald
5- Arthur Greene
6 - Patrick Nulty
7 - Max Kearney
8 - Niall O'Riordan

That side will struggle this season.

Who is to return from Leinster? Jack Dunne, Jack Kelly, Michael Silvester, Dan Sheehan, Ryan Baird, Thomas Clarkson?, Giuseppe Coyne?

Hope Leinster take a look at Hogan, he is a quality fullback.

Who else is missing?

Turner?
Assume Vermuelen at 1 is South African

The Lost Sheep · 04-10-2018 12:32PM

Mc Love wrote: »

Thats a shock

In what way?

The Lost Sheep · 04-10-2018 12:32PM

All-Ireland League proving a vital outlet for academy prospects
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/all-ireland-league-proving-a-vital-outlet-for-academy-prospects-1.3650736

Mc Love · 04-10-2018 12:54PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

In what way?

I thought they had sorted out the issues there, it was apparently not great under the last management and John wasnt happy. Best of luck to him, at least its now Garryowen he's joining.

iminterestd0 · 04-10-2018 01:51PM

UCD side:

Conall Doherty; Tim Carroll, Andy Marks, Peter Kiernan, Cillian Burke; Matthew Gilsenan, Nick Peters; Sam Griffin, Sean McNulty, Liam Hyland, Emmet MacMahon, Tom Treacy, Stephen McVeigh, Alex Penny, Ronan Foley.

The Lost Sheep · 04-10-2018 01:54PM

Midleton v Seapoint
D Murray; M Daly, B Cottle, M Kokterik, R Hogan; S Lee, R Smyth; K Brierley, B Moore, G McIntire, D Broderick, J Gardiner, R Carey, S Hickey, M Cronin.

D14Rugby · 04-10-2018 02:04PM

shoutman wrote: »

See Appendix of this document http://www.irishrugby.ie/downloads/All_Ireland_League_Regs1516.pdf

Although unsure if points have changed since this.

Looks like you'd nearly have to try to break the 100 point barrier.

Mc Love · 04-10-2018 03:21PM

Next episode of the Club Scene is out https://open.spotify.com/episode/0wNYupLFmqdS1GeW1ALcK9?si=Ma1irugDRsGN9KEbbA2n9Q

Great banter between the lads, and good roundup of the history of the AIL.

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