Donald Trump is the President Mark IV (Read Mod Warning in OP)

Itssoeasy wrote: »

You know both those shows are released as podcasts ? They download at 6am in the morning. Morning commute sorted.

How or where would I find the podcasts. I usually see them on fb.

Is it about time to start questioning his sanity and mental fitness for the office again after that?

Now there is a 4th accuser against Kavanaugh. But he's innocent until proven guilty right?

Dr Ford's already had her emails hacked into and had to leave her home, what else do you expect from people still salty they have to share water fountains with non-white people.

Rjd2 wrote: »

For better or worse that's how it works.

The usual way it works is that there is a thorough investigation to establish the facts. Like the FBI investigation into Anita Hill's accusations.

They're not doing that this time. Can't imagine why.

Duck Soup wrote: »

The usual way it works is that there is a thorough investigation to establish the facts. Like the FBI investigation into Anita Hill's accusations.

They're not doing that this time. Can't imagine why.

It might be embarrassing if the 5 or 6 previous FBI investigations into Brett Don referred to might have missed something or might not have put the right questions in the past to Brett and witnesses.

Pelvis wrote: »

Jake Tapper asked Avenatti specifically if his client is accusing Kavanaugh of rape, Avenatti refuses to answer and just refers back to the language in the affidavit, and that his client will give specifics to the FBI if they investigate.

I dunno... I don't understand his tactics here.

None of them going to law enforcement with a complaint I think could hurt them as well.

Pelvis wrote: »

Jake Tapper asked Avenatti specifically if his client is accusing Kavanaugh of rape, Avenatti refuses to answer and just refers back to the language in the affidavit, and that his client will give specifics to the FBI if they investigate.

I dunno... I don't understand his tactics here.

He is leaving the possibility out there. Not saying it is, or indeed isn't.

If he says yes, then immediately the story becomes about the rape, everything else is forgotten about.

By saying nothing, Team Kavanaugh now face the possibility (if true of course) that this is only the beginning and whether he makes it through the next few days or not things are going to get worse.

It is all about managing the news cycle. This drip drip is what kept Stormy in the news for so long. Compare that to McDougal who hardly ever gets mentioned.

I'm pretty sure Trump was under the influence of something or lacking some substance during that press conference.

I was just thinking about today's hearing and realised I am no longer watching events unfold as a real government of a real country that could affect the rest of the world, I am watching it like a soap opera. It doesn't matter, its entertainment. Trump and the US government can not be taken seriously, its a (bad) movie, its not really happening. Trump rambles and boasts and the rest of the world smirks and ignores him.

Has anything happened that cannot be undone? Have attitudes been changed for ever? For good or for bad? Will this be a minor blip in history, or has something changed in perception of the way governments work? Should we be worried or just exasperated?

looksee wrote: »

I was just thinking about today's hearing and realised I am no longer watching events unfold as a real government of a real country that could affect the rest of the world, I am watching it like a soap opera. It doesn't matter, its entertainment. Trump and the US government can not be taken seriously, its a (bad) movie, its not really happening. Trump rambles and boasts and the rest of the world smirks and ignores him.

Has anything happened that cannot be undone? Have attitudes been changed for ever? For good or for bad? Will this be a minor blip in history, or has something changed in perception of the way governments work? Should we be worried or just exasperated?

Will you be placating yourself when he wins a second term?

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Trump is not so bad for us in Europe so far, his policies mostly damage the US.

His tariff policies will impact trade and cost us all a few Euros, but it is small beer compared to Brexit. Making the US a less reliable ally is probably good for Europe in the medium term, motivating some unifying European action.

Of course if he decides to pull a Bush and start a war to boost his numbers, that will be bad, but I think few in Washington have the appetite for that. He certainly won't be picking up a coalition of European allies for a vanity war.

The real danger is global economic downturn. At the moment, there's a general upswing and we feel like we can afford take the US for granted but that won't last forever. If anything on the scale of 2008 occurs with Trump in office, I dread to think what will happen.

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

There will be a downturn anyway, it is inevitable, so Trump causing one is just timing.

Downturns are absolutely inevitable. My point is that when that day comes around, God help us all if the man at the helm of the world's largest economy has nothing to offer the world except "America First"

The fact that this hearing is going ahead today is I.N.S.A.N.E. How any woman can vote for the Reps come November is mind blowing (accept of course the Christian base, who are so intent on revoking abortion rights, anything else goes).

I hope it goes to the vote tomorrow and 1 of the 3 possibles vote him down.