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Gatling · 25-09-2018 04:24PM

BBFAN wrote: »

This old line of "living near your ma" is so tired now. I'm surprised you're not sick listening to yourself to be honest.

Unfortunately for you it's the truth ,

Along with free housing (70 million owed in unpaid rents from social housing tenants ) along with excuses like the garden isn't big enough for a trampoline ,can't live close to water due to sea sickness ,the walk to the front door was to far from the sitting room ,and so on and so on

Wile E. Coyote · 25-09-2018 04:24PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Do you actually intend to ever debate, or just constantly pick holes in others' arguments ????

They're not even picking holes in the arguements. They're just picking out little phrases that they don't like. I've yet to see one constructive post or even a valid counter arguement.

PlaneSpeeking · 25-09-2018 04:25PM

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

They're not even picking holes in the arguements. They're just picking out little phrases that they don't like. I've yet to see one constructive post or even a valid counter arguement.

I'm an optimist, I believe it will come. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

BBFAN · 25-09-2018 04:26PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Do you actually intend to ever debate, or just constantly pick holes in others' arguments ????

I'm waiting to hear your plan for solving the housing problem.

Wile E. Coyote · 25-09-2018 04:29PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I'm an optimist, I believe it will come. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Said the 'Virgin' Mary quietly...

Wile E. Coyote · 25-09-2018 04:31PM

BBFAN wrote: »

I'm waiting to hear your plan for solving the housing problem.

I'm still waiting to hear how you plan to fund all the social housing you want to build.

stuff.hunter · 25-09-2018 04:51PM

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

I'm still waiting to hear how you plan to fund all the social housing you want to build.

thats simply, put more taxes on us, working.. thats their plan

Wile E. Coyote · 25-09-2018 05:02PM

stuff.hunter wrote: »

thats simply, put more taxes on us, working.. thats their plan

More taxes? Don't be silly... in the Utopia they live money falls from the sky. On budget day all the TD's have wheelbarrow races around the Phoenix Park to see who collects the most for their department. Poor Eoghan Murphy is a little slow though so we'll give him a headstart and a hoover this year.

So thats the funding sorted. Where are all the 1,000's of unemployed tradesmen, and women... (equal rights and all that...) queuing up to build these houses? Because every builder, plumber and electrician that I know are flatout and can't take on any more work.

Gatling · 25-09-2018 06:53PM

Wonder if the cash one will be protesting the supposed no Xmas bonus this year

Jimmy. · 25-09-2018 07:14PM

Gatling wrote: »

Wonder if the cash one will be protesting the supposed no Xmas bonus this year

She probably will even though she can’t be complaining about much this year. Although in saying that people like her who is on the rock and roll train will always be complaining.

Taylor365 · 25-09-2018 07:19PM

Let us all apply for social housing.

See how we get on!

Free Houses 4all!

Clog the system so bad it has to be scrapped :pac:

Sofiztikated · 25-09-2018 07:22PM

So the "best" suggestion lately has been to put people that refuse a house on a list, and publish it, so others can get their little hate fix and outrage meters topped up when it does come out?

**** me, there's problems with the system, and what have you, but then you get moronic suggestions like that.

Noone has a breeze as to how to fix the situation, noone here really cares about it, other than having something to froth and foam at the mouth about.

Jimmy. · 25-09-2018 07:29PM

Stop giving free houses to foreigners who have contributed nothing to this country would be a start.
Two years ago I was at a day where council handed over 26 new houses to their tenants. Out of the 26 I could only pronounce four names. 24 foreign, we regularly do call outs to that same estate and them 24 don’t do a rap only bleed the system dry complaining about something all the time and trying to get this and that free.

NasserShammaz · 25-09-2018 07:36PM

Jimmy. wrote: »

Stop giving free houses to lazy Irish people who have contributed nothing to this country would be a start.
Two years ago I was at a day where council handed over 26 new houses to their tenants. Out of the 26 I could only pronounce four names. 24 foreign, we regularly do call outs to that same estate and them 24 don’t do a rap only bleed the system dry complaining about something all the time and trying to get this and that free.

Fixed it for you

Gatling · 25-09-2018 07:53PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

So the "best" suggestion lately has been to put people that refuse a house on a list, and publish it, so others can get their little hate fix and outrage meters topped up when it does come out?

**** me, there's problems with the system, and what have you, but then you get moronic suggestions like that.

Noone has a breeze as to how to fix the situation, noone here really cares about it, other than having something to froth and foam at the mouth about.

It's a almost great idea the reason why people refused a perfectly good property should be made public as standard ,

To fix some of the problems a zero tolerance policy should be applied to the housing list you should not have 3 refusals in a 12 month period before facing sanction ,one refusal and if there is not extenuating circumstances take the property or be discharged for the care of the local authorities and you then have to self accomadate at your own cost ,
Free b&b and hotels should be stopped immediately and pay to stay and require proof of homelessness from your landlord saying why and when you became homeless ,
Apply stricter rules for housing set a maximum of 3 bed properties so if someone decides to have 3-8 + kids its on them to find the space for the whole family,
If people aren't willing to pay for their council housing they should be moved to a hub and the payment taken from source to cover their income,
Bring in a minimum age of 21 to apply for social housing unless there is an extenuating circumstances for somebody being added to the list before,
Increase social housing rents to around 600pm the to cover the cost building more social and affordable housing,
Housing on need it your housed in a 4 bed by the time all the kids reach adulthood and move on the parents should be moved to a smaller property to suit their needs.

25-09-2018 08:15PM

Gatling wrote: »

It's a almost great idea the reason why people refused a perfectly good property should be made public as standard ,

To fix some of the problems a zero tolerance policy should be applied to the housing list you should not have 3 refusals in a 12 month period before facing sanction ,one refusal and if there is not extenuating circumstances take the property or be discharged for the care of the local authorities and you then have to self accomadate at your own cost ,
Free b&b and hotels should be stopped immediately and pay to stay and require proof of homelessness from your landlord saying why and when you became homeless ,
Apply stricter rules for housing set a maximum of 3 bed properties so if someone decides to have 3-8 + kids its on them to find the space for the whole family,
If people aren't willing to pay for their council housing they should be moved to a hub and the payment taken from source to cover their income,
Bring in a minimum age of 21 to apply for social housing unless there is an extenuating circumstances for somebody being added to the list before,
Increase social housing rents to around 600pm the to cover the cost building more social and affordable housing,
Housing on need it your housed in a 4 bed by the time all the kids reach adulthood and move on the parents should be moved to a smaller property to suit their needs.

Great post.

I would add that non payment rent to be cracked down on.

iamwhoiam · 25-09-2018 08:31PM

Jimmy. wrote: »

Stop giving free houses to foreigners who have contributed nothing to this country would be a start.
Two years ago I was at a day where council handed over 26 new houses to their tenants. Out of the 26 I could only pronounce four names. 24 foreign, we regularly do call outs to that same estate and them 24 don’t do a rap only bleed the system dry complaining about something all the time and trying to get this and that free.

I bet you couldn't pronounce my name either .Born and bred here , paid taxes all my life as have my ( difficult to pronounce ) husband , son and daughters . So if you don't mind try not to judge people simply because you find it hard to spell out and pronounce a name

NasserShammaz · 25-09-2018 08:46PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy. View Post
Stop giving free houses to foreigners who have contributed nothing to this country would be a start.
Two years ago I was at a day where council handed over 26 new houses to their tenants. Out of the 26 I could only pronounce four names. 24 foreign, we regularly do call outs to that same estate and them 24 don’t do a rap only bleed the system dry complaining about something all the time and trying to get this and that free.

I bet you couldn't pronounce my name either .Born and bred here , paid taxes all my life as have my ( difficult to pronounce ) husband , son and daughters . So if you don't mind try not to judge people simply because you find it hard to spell out and pronounce a name

Sounds like one of Enda Kennys Remembering stories ,
I was talking to a man in ballyboll*x..................

All Seeing Eye · 25-09-2018 08:51PM

I’ve been told that certain foreigners can be very demanding to workers sent out to do maintenance on their free council houses. They basically treat them like servants talking abruptly and telling them to change light bulbs and stuff that they could do themselves. It must be a cultural thing as the concept of free council houses doesn’t really exist outside of Europe.

the_syco · 25-09-2018 09:09PM

DChancer wrote: »

Well lets change the rules, if your homeless you take what youre given wherever it is and be very grateful

This wouldn't work, as it's too much of a good idea.

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Stop Foreva Homes immediately, social housing is not guaranteed on a long term basis, when kids turn 18 there’s another assessment and social accommodation is downsized accordingly.

You'd need a limit put on the amount of kids that the state will support, otherwise they'll pump out a kids every 17 years to stay in their house. If you think I'm exaggerating, look at the topic.

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

make evictions into homelessness illegal

If the Shinners actually tried to make this a law, every landlord would evict their tenants.

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Noone has a breeze as to how to fix the situation, noone here really cares about it, other than having something to froth and foam at the mouth about.

Have the tenant pick 3 areas. Get shown 3 houses, one in each area. Told to pick one. If they do not move into one of them, all benefits are cut. The current system of being shown properties and the ability to say no to all of them and continuing to live in a hotel is not working.

NasserShammaz · 25-09-2018 09:18PM

Some Gobsh*t muted the idea of given those who rent after 10 years a new set of rights, which means everyone who has being renting for 9 years would be in the cross hairs and in danger of being turfed out.
If you have been renting for ten years the same place I would think you have been a good tenant and this will be your reward. Every time this gombeens suggest a new idea someone gets it in the eye ( except of course nightmare tenants/ Scum who you can't evict only if you spend spent a fu*kin fortune getting shot of them) PRTB is a joke Take back the city is being hijacked and PBP AAA Sinn Fein Labour are a pointless collection of jaded socialists and failed ideologists

ShaneC93 · 25-09-2018 09:24PM

Apparantly Ms.Cash is to be given airtime as one of the speakers at the Dublin / Leinster House RaiseTheRoof protest on October 3rd as well now.

NasserShammaz · 25-09-2018 09:25PM

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Apparantly Ms.Cash is to be given airtime as one of the speakers at the Dublin RaiseTheRoof protest on October 3rd as well now.

jesus wept

Wheeliebin30 · 25-09-2018 09:28PM

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Apparantly Ms.Cash is to be given airtime as one of the speakers at the Dublin / Leinster House RaiseTheRoof protest on October 3rd as well now.

Bring it on i say:)

Jimmy. · 25-09-2018 09:29PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I bet you couldn't pronounce my name either .Born and bred here , paid taxes all my life as have my ( difficult to pronounce ) husband , son and daughters . So if you don't mind try not to judge people simply because you find it hard to spell out and pronounce a name

I backed up my post by saying they currently don’t work as constantly doing maintenance in that estate. You missed that to suit your agenda didn’t you?

end of the road · 25-09-2018 09:30PM

Gatling wrote: »

It's a almost great idea the reason why people refused a perfectly good property should be made public as standard ,

it shouldn't as it's nobody's business apart from the council and prospective tenant, and the council already has remedies availible to deal with that issue. even then, this issue is blown out of all proportion because someone else will quite likely take the house that is refused by someone else.

Gatling wrote: »

To fix some of the problems a zero tolerance policy should be applied to the housing list you should not have 3 refusals in a 12 month period before facing sanction ,one refusal and if there is not extenuating circumstances take the property or be discharged for the care of the local authorities and you then have to self accomadate at your own cost ,
Free b&b and hotels should be stopped immediately and pay to stay and require proof of homelessness from your landlord saying why and when you became homeless ,
Apply stricter rules for housing set a maximum of 3 bed properties so if someone decides to have 3-8 + kids its on them to find the space for the whole family,
If people aren't willing to pay for their council housing they should be moved to a hub and the payment taken from source to cover their income,
Bring in a minimum age of 21 to apply for social housing unless there is an extenuating circumstances for somebody being added to the list before,
Increase social housing rents to around 600pm the to cover the cost building more social and affordable housing,
Housing on need it your housed in a 4 bed by the time all the kids reach adulthood and move on the parents should be moved to a smaller property to suit their needs.

all of those look to be things that would cause more problems then exist now, and could ever be solved by their implementation.

Wheeliebin30 · 25-09-2018 09:32PM

end of the road wrote: »

it shouldn't as it's nobody's business apart from the council and prospective tenant, and the council already has remedies availible to deal with that issue. even then, this issue is blown out of all proportion because someone else will quite likely take the house that is refused by someone else.

all of those look to be things that would cause more problems then exist now, and could ever be solved by their implementation.

Nice of you to join us, did you enjoy zzzzzzzzzzz

iamwhoiam · 25-09-2018 09:32PM

Jimmy. wrote: »

I backed up my post by saying they currently don’t work as constantly doing maintenance in that estate. You missed that to suit your agenda didn’t you?

I dont have an agenda . I just absolutely dislike judgmental posts . What on earth had the pronunciation of their names do to with your point ? By all means make a point without resorting to that

end of the road · 25-09-2018 09:32PM

the_syco wrote: »

This wouldn't work, as it's too much of a good idea.

no the reason it wouldn't work is because it wouldn't actually solve or change anything. it would only satisfy the mouth foamers. the take what your given days are gone. these days within reason prospective council tenants will have some flexibility to choose a property as long as their reasons are actually genuine.

the_syco wrote: »

You'd need a limit put on the amount of kids that the state will support, otherwise they'll pump out a kids every 17 years to stay in their house. If you think I'm exaggerating, look at the topic.

putting a limit on the amount of kids that would be supported wouldn't necessarily stop them from having a large number of children. people have large families in countries with no support system what soever, so it's likely the case that this would continue to happen here in ireland.

the_syco wrote: »

Have the tenant pick 3 areas. Get shown 3 houses, one in each area. Told to pick one. If they do not move into one of them, all benefits are cut.

i'd imagine this is unviable as it brings undue hardship and is unlikely to cause someone to except a house.

the_syco wrote: »

The current system of being shown properties and the ability to say no to all of them and continuing to live in a hotel is not working.

it's the hotel part that isn't working due to the cost. had we kept up a social house building program then the chances are this wouldn't be an issue.

mfceiling · 25-09-2018 09:46PM

end of the road wrote: »

the take what your given days are gone.

Nowadays it's the "I'll only take what suits me".

My best mate lives the far side of Slane. He'd love to live in dublin because that's where he works. Unfortunately he couldn't get a suitable house in his price range so he looked further afield until he could.

Cut your cloth and all that.

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