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Hitman3000 · 25-09-2018 08:47AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

I hear a motion might be put forward for a vote on the right to housing.

Any chance you can say what wording of the motion is since you are the one making the claim about a vote? Or is this today's attempt to kick the permanently outraged?

PlaneSpeeking · 25-09-2018 08:51AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Geniuses question.

I hear a motion might be put forward for a vote on the right to housing.

If passed does it mean no more paying a mortgage?

You can guarantee it won't cover anyone who works. 100% guaranteed that.

Skivers f**king Charter it will be, like everything the left come out with.

Wheeliebin30 · 25-09-2018 08:51AM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Any chance you can say what wording of the motion is since you are the one making the claim about a vote? Or is this today's attempt to kick the permanently outraged?

Honestly I caught the end of it on fm104 news, there was a council meeting last night about housing just heard that bit at the end.

Hitman3000 · 25-09-2018 08:56AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

Honestly I caught the end of it on fm104 news, there was a council meeting last night about housing just heard that bit at the end.

As I thought just a kick to start the usual circle jerk of stupid comments. Free house....free mortgage......blah blah etc etc.

PlaneSpeeking · 25-09-2018 09:03AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Honestly I caught the end of it on fm104 news, there was a council meeting last night about housing just heard that bit at the end.

Given that councils aren't enforcing unpaid rents I've no uncertainty that the houses will effectively be "free". Given that they don't earn their money but are given it, we do get the de facto "free furevva home"

Sickening.

stratowide · 25-09-2018 09:04AM

the_syco wrote: »

Unfortunately, the homeless in Dublin have to be housed in Dublin.

I never knew this..What is the reasoning behind it..?

PlaneSpeeking · 25-09-2018 09:05AM

stratowide wrote: »

I never knew this..What is the reasoning behind it..?

Near mammy, availability of AAA meetings, cos they want to be........

Jimmy. · 25-09-2018 09:05AM

stratowide wrote: »

I never knew this..What is the reasoning behind it..?

Why should other parts of the country take in these no hopers?

Hitman3000 · 25-09-2018 09:09AM

stratowide wrote:

I never knew this..What is the reasoning behind it..?

You have to be already living in the area you wish to apply to. Citizens advice has the information online. Although people should be allowed to apply anywhere in in the country this can only be done at present if the council waives the rule.

VinLieger · 25-09-2018 09:10AM

Jimmy. wrote: »

Why should other parts of the country take in these no hopers?

Because Dublin money supports the vast majority of the country?

DChancer · 25-09-2018 09:10AM

Jimmy. wrote: »

Why should other parts of the country take in these no hopers?

Because almost all of the rest of the country is subsidized by Dublin..
You really think Leitrim, Roscommon, Donegal etc raise all the money the spend on services within their own counties??

Sweet.Science · 25-09-2018 09:14AM

Has anyone in all these pages come up with any sort of solutions for this crisis ?

Please dont say build 10,000 houses .

In 5 years time the figure will be 15,000

10 years time over 20,000

Can we accept its just going to get worse and worse and social housing isnt sustainable . Everyone deserves a roof over their head etc . Can we build fancier hotels that are government ran and just to house the homeless ? Or something along those lines

stratowide · 25-09-2018 09:17AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Near mammy, availability of AAA meetings, cos they want to be........

No reason at all so..:rolleyes:

stratowide · 25-09-2018 09:22AM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You have to be already living in the area you wish to apply to. Citizens advice has the information online. Although people should be allowed to apply anywhere in in the country this can only be done at present if the council waives the rule.

But surely if you are "homeless" technically you are not living anywhere therefore you can apply anywhere or maybe apply nowhere..I'm confused..:eek:

Hitman3000 · 25-09-2018 09:29AM

stratowide wrote:

But surely if you are "homeless" technically you are not living anywhere therefore you can apply anywhere or maybe apply nowhere..I'm confused..

You can't apply anywhere. Those are rules with the council's. If you are homeless whatever temporary accommodation you are in is the area you apply too. If you are still confused as I already suggested go to Citizens Advice.

DChancer · 25-09-2018 09:33AM

Well lets change the rules, if your homeless you take what youre given wherever it is and be very grateful

PlaneSpeeking · 25-09-2018 09:36AM

stratowide wrote: »

But surely if you are "homeless" technically you are not living anywhere therefore you can apply anywhere or maybe apply nowhere..I'm confused..:eek:

Randomly "Hi Ho Silver Lining" is now stuck my my head!

25-09-2018 09:36AM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You can't apply anywhere. Those are rules with the council's. If you are homeless whatever temporary accommodation you are in is the area you apply too. If you are still confused as I already suggested go to Citizens Advice.

This is one reason for a single housing authority for the whole of Country. Too many councils duplicating work. This single authority would be funded by redirecting funding from homeless charities to the one authority.

PlaneSpeeking · 25-09-2018 09:36AM

DChancer wrote: »

Well lets change the rules, if your homeless you take what youre given wherever it is and be very grateful

I'd vote for that!

PlaneSpeeking · 25-09-2018 09:37AM

Deleted User wrote: »

This is one reason for a single housing authority for the whole of Country. Too many councils duplicating work. This single authority would be funded by redirecting funding from homeless charities to the one authority.

+1,000

Fr_Dougal · 25-09-2018 09:39AM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Has anyone in all these pages come up with any sort of solutions for this crisis ?

Please dont say build 10,000 houses .

In 5 years time the figure will be 15,000

10 years time over 20,000

Can we accept its just going to get worse and worse and social housing isnt sustainable . Everyone deserves a roof over their head etc . Can we build fancier hotels that are government ran and just to house the homeless ? Or something along those lines

Tax credits for childcare would be a start. Then lower social welfare, make getting up of holes and working more beneficial than sitting at home. Children allowance capped at 2 children, and provide a proper education program around family planning.

Stop Foreva Homes immediately, social housing is not guaranteed on a long term basis, when kids turn 18 there’s another assessment and social accommodation is downsized accordingly.

Hitman3000 · 25-09-2018 09:40AM

Deleted User wrote:

This is one reason for a single housing authority for the whole of Country. Too many councils duplicating work. This single authority would be funded by redirecting funding from homeless charities to the one authority.

It shouldn't be up to a charitable organisation to do what the government should always have been doing. Our governments seem to like to outsource.

Wheeliebin30 · 25-09-2018 09:40AM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

As I thought just a kick to start the usual circle jerk of stupid comments. Free house....free mortgage......blah blah etc etc.

Here it is, you’re some man.

Surprise surprise it’s sinn Fein calling for a right to housing.

“He was speaking at a special meeting where councillors passed a cross-party motion proposed by Sinn Féin Cllr Daithí Doolan that called on the Government to hold a constitutional referendum on a RIGHT TO HOUSING, make evictions into homelessness illegal, declare the housing crisis an emergency and provide €2.3 billion in the budget for public housing”

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2018/0924/995864-council-housing/

BBFAN · 25-09-2018 09:41AM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

As I thought just a kick to start the usual circle jerk of stupid comments. Free house....free mortgage......blah blah etc etc.

Free house = 10 likes, don't you know?

Wheeliebin30 · 25-09-2018 09:42AM

BBFAN wrote: »

Free house = 10 likes, don't you know?

See above.

Is a right to housing essentially not a free house?????

Hitman3000 · 25-09-2018 09:42AM

DChancer wrote:

Well lets change the rules, if your homeless you take what youre given wherever it is and be very grateful

So you missed the whole e you have to apply in the area you are registered in. It's up to the council's to change the rules. Although according to an RTE report November last year. There are over a 100k families on the housing lists throughout the country.

PlaneSpeeking · 25-09-2018 09:42AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Here it is, you’re some man.

Surprise surprise it’s sinn Fein calling for a right to housing.

“He was speaking at a special meeting where councillors passed a cross-party motion proposed by Sinn Féin Cllr Daithí Doolan that called on the Government to hold a constitutional referendum on a RIGHT TO HOUSING, make evictions into homelessness illegal, declare the housing crisis an emergency and provide €2.3 billion in the budget for public housing”

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2018/0924/995864-council-housing/

I am thoroughly ashamed I let my Republican principles and beliefs colour my vote and waste it on Sinn Fein for a decade.

25-09-2018 09:44AM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

It shouldn't be up to a charitable organisation to do what the government should always have been doing. Our governments seem to like to outsource.

At last something we agree on. Funding a special government department rather than the multitude of homeless charities.

PlaneSpeeking · 25-09-2018 09:45AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

See above.

Is a right to housing essentially not a free house?????

Yes it is.

Hitman3000 · 25-09-2018 09:46AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

Here it is, youâ€™re some man.

I did ask you to provide the wording of the motion. Well done. So it's a SF motion at council level, so unless you are deliberately ignorant of the democratic system in this country you know it has no hope of being adopted in the Dail considering the fact FG and FF hold the majority between them.

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