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The Frederick St protest and reaction

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 330 ✭✭All Seeing Eye


    A few houses? :D:D:D

    Last time I checked, the entire neighbourhoods of Crumlin, Drimnagh, Dolphin's Barn, Gloucester Diamond, Killarney Court, Mercer Street, Cuffe Street, three large areas in Summerhill and dozens of others which I'd be happy to list for you, counted as more than just "a few houses". Not all of them were tenements, but all of them were acquired by compulsory purchase, cleared, and used to build fully council-owned estates.

    Anyway we already did a compulsory purchase a few years back it was called Nama. So we then sold these lands and properties on to private companies at a theoretical profit. So are you saying that we should now do another compulsory purchase of the stuff we just sold wasting more tax payers money as I’m sure the prices will be considerably higher. Sounds like shyster stuff from you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,192 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    I wasn't next nor near it today (city or protest), (the life of the self employed eh) but it would appear to me that it's keeping the issue fresh on people's minds, and highlighting it.
    The only thing they are highlighting is how much contempt they have for people who are trying to earn a living, and are probably paying a mortgage. Sitting down and blocking a main artery of the city so they can get a few headlines for themselves.

    We go through this every year from hard left groups, and it's well past time the guards stopped indulging this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    The housing issue is starting to reach a tipping point. We can expect more and more of these types of protests as it's gonna get worse before it gets better.

    Things are getting steadily worse for large sections of society as the economy overall performs better and better. It's only natural that people start to fight back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    tigger123 wrote: »
    The housing issue is starting to reach a tipping point. We can expect more and more of these types of protests as it's gonna get worse before it gets better.

    Things are getting steadily worse for large sections of society as the economy overall performs better and better. It's only natural that people start to fight back.

    Large sections?

    Any links etc to this claim?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    hmmm wrote: »
    The only thing they are highlighting is how much contempt they have for people who are trying to earn a living, and are probably paying a mortgage. Sitting down and blocking a main artery of the city so they can get a few headlines for themselves.

    We go through this every year from hard left groups, and it's well past time the guards stopped indulging this.

    They blocked traffic ffs. People have a right to protest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,427 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    hmmm wrote: »
    The only thing they are highlighting is how much contempt they have for people who are trying to earn a living. Sitting down and blocking a main artery of the city so they can get a few headlines for themselves.

    We go through this every year from hard left groups, and it's well past time the guards stopped indulging this.

    They won’t be caught hole open like they were in Jobbo, hmmm.

    That’s for sure.They have learned their lesson.

    Freddo tells you that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,192 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    tigger123 wrote: »
    They blocked traffic ffs. People have a right to protest.
    They didn't block "traffic". They are blocking the ability of people to move, and at the times they have chosen they are largely blocking the ability of workers to get home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Large sections?

    Any links etc to this claim?

    From Cso.ie, referring to the 2016 census-

    "Rented accommodation has continued its upward trend with 497,111 households renting, an increase of 4.7 per cent on 2011. This meant that renting was the tenure status for almost 30 per cent of all of occupied dwellings in the last census."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    hmmm wrote: »
    They didn't block "traffic". They are blocking the ability of people to move, and at the times they have chosen they are largely blocking the ability of workers to get home.

    Really? On a Saturday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    tigger123 wrote: »
    They blocked traffic ffs. People have a right to protest.

    And what of others rights to do what they're doing (going home etc) who's rights are more important and why does one superceed the other?

    You can protest for months on end on the path outside leinster house if you want and it won't put others out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,445 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Ahhhhhhhh:)

    Once again, I paid 21,000 tax last year, how much did these morons pay?

    Corporation tax around 3k.

    What about yourself?
    Run for election. You hero.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,965 ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    The average number of occupants per dwelling, after a steady decline from 1900 to 2011, rose for the first time since data was collected between 2011 and 2016, a definite sign of deteriorating housing standards for a significant section of the population.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    tigger123 wrote: »
    From Cso.ie, referring to the 2016 census-

    "Rented accommodation has continued its upward trend with 497,111 households renting, an increase of 4.7 per cent on 2011. This meant that renting was the tenure status for almost 30 per cent of all of occupied dwellings in the last census."

    Great so you showed a link for how many people rent.

    Now have you a link for your claim its getting harder for large sections of society?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Ahhhhhhhh:)

    Once again, I paid 21,000 tax last year, how much did these morons pay?

    Corporation tax around 3k.

    What about yourself?

    Ok, ok... if it'll prevent me from having to witness the unedifying spectacle of a stranger on the internet publishing documentary evidence of his tax returns, in a desperate bid to prove that he has contributed something positive to society... can I just say I believe you. Your protestations have absolutely convinced me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Really? On a Saturday?

    Quite lot of people work on the weekends you know.

    Anything you do on the weekends that have staff for instance......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Run for election. You hero.

    Nope just an answer and question as said poster questioned if I contributed to society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,445 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    And what of others rights to do what they're doing (going home etc) who's rights are more important and why does one superceded the other?

    You can protest for months on end on the path outside leinster house if you want and it won't put others out.

    I spose your the type who sticks your car up on footpaths then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,445 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Nope just an answer and question as said poster questioned if I contributed to society.

    Such a martyr <3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Great so you showed a link for how many people rent.

    Now have you a link for your claim its getting harder for large sections of society?

    I was referring to people who rent in my original post. More people are renting, and life is becoming more difficult for people who rent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I spose your the type who sticks your car up on footpaths then.

    Yeah..... Sure...... Whatever floats your boat there chap.

    That sure answered the post concisely.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    tigger123 wrote: »
    I was referring to people who rent in my original post. More people are renting, and life is becoming more difficult for people who rent.

    For the 500,000 people?

    Have you a link to your claim?


  • Posts: 11,642 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hmmm wrote: »
    They didn't block "traffic". They are blocking the ability of people to move, and at the times they have chosen they are largely blocking the ability of workers to get home.

    On a saturday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,445 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Yeah..... Sure...... Whatever floats your boat there chap.

    That sure answered the post concisely.

    You are crying over blocked roads. You said they can block the path instead.

    Inconvenience some but just not me eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Nice twist.

    I take it you support Ms Cash and her burglar fella?

    Oh and she is a criminal too.

    Know next to shag all about her or her fella, and care for either less so.

    What I do know though is that she's being pointed at by yourself and others like the protests and housing crisis is about her, and only her.

    10k last I heard, which is a shocking figure if true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    pjohnson wrote: »
    You are crying over blocked roads. You said they can block the path instead.

    Inconvenience some but just not me eh?

    Who would they be inconveniencing? There's plenty of room on the path on the other side of the road.

    When youre sitting in a car in a line of traffic on the quays and the road is blocked you can't exactly just do a u turn or nip across the hapenny bridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,445 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Know next to shag all about her or her fella, and care for neither less so.

    What I do know though is that she's being pointed at by yourself and others like the protests and housing crisis is about her, and only her.

    10k last I heard, which is a shocking figure if true.
    It seems AH has a huge fetish over her, if she does anything on FB theres a gaggle rushing here to report it. :pac:

    Defo have her bookmarked and checked every hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    pjohnson wrote: »
    It seems AH has a huge fetish over her, if she does anything on FB theres a gaggle rushing here to report it. :pac:

    Long running thread in here about her.

    Had a peak today, W.B has a fairly high post count in it alright, bit of an obsession it would seem.

    Don't get the obsession myself, she's only going to get publicity te more she's discussed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    For the 500,000 people?

    Have you a link to your claim?

    I don't have a definitive link to hand to back up my claim.

    I stand by my original point though. The issue of housing is reaching a critical mass. And I think the civil disobedience around it wll only increase as it continues to reach up through society and affect the middle classes.

    Look at what happened with the Vietnam war i
    the US. There was no urgency around it until the Government started drafting middle class college students. Then the protests really started kicking off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,445 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Long running thread in here about her.

    Had a peak today, W.B has a fairly high post count in it alright, bit of an obsession it would seem.

    Don't get the obsession myself, she's only going to get publicity te more she's discussed.

    You'd also imagine that such an obsession would cause them problems in their oft mentioned hard tax paying jobs, BUT they still manage regular updates regardless. Amusing and as you said they are the very reason shes in the limelight.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    My apologies if it offended.


    No offense taken, just thought you were above that behaviour. ;- )


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