The Frederick St protest and reaction

Wheeliebin30 · 22-09-2018 8:16pm

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

You overdid it with the 'contributing to society' bit.

Ahhhhhhhh:)

Once again, I paid 21,000 tax last year, how much did these morons pay?

Corporation tax around 3k.

What about yourself?

hatrickpatrick · 22-09-2018 8:16pm

All Seeing Eye wrote: »

So they bought a few houses because they were in dangerous condition and people were living in them. That’s not the same as you are advocating Comrade.

A few houses?

Last time I checked, the entire neighbourhoods of Crumlin, Drimnagh, Dolphin's Barn, Gloucester Diamond, Killarney Court, Mercer Street, Cuffe Street, three large areas in Summerhill and dozens of others which I'd be happy to list for you, counted as more than just "a few houses". Not all of them were tenements, but all of them were acquired by compulsory purchase, cleared, and used to build fully council-owned estates.

All Seeing Eye · 22-09-2018 8:21pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

A few houses?

Last time I checked, the entire neighbourhoods of Crumlin, Drimnagh, Dolphin's Barn, Gloucester Diamond, Killarney Court, Mercer Street, Cuffe Street, three large areas in Summerhill and dozens of others which I'd be happy to list for you, counted as more than just "a few houses". Not all of them were tenements, but all of them were acquired by compulsory purchase, cleared, and used to build fully council-owned estates.

Anyway we already did a compulsory purchase a few years back it was called Nama. So we then sold these lands and properties on to private companies at a theoretical profit. So are you saying that we should now do another compulsory purchase of the stuff we just sold wasting more tax payers money as I’m sure the prices will be considerably higher. Sounds like shyster stuff from you.

hmmm · 22-09-2018 8:23pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

I wasn't next nor near it today (city or protest), (the life of the self employed eh) but it would appear to me that it's keeping the issue fresh on people's minds, and highlighting it.

The only thing they are highlighting is how much contempt they have for people who are trying to earn a living, and are probably paying a mortgage. Sitting down and blocking a main artery of the city so they can get a few headlines for themselves.

We go through this every year from hard left groups, and it's well past time the guards stopped indulging this.

tigger123 · 22-09-2018 8:24pm

The housing issue is starting to reach a tipping point. We can expect more and more of these types of protests as it's gonna get worse before it gets better.

Things are getting steadily worse for large sections of society as the economy overall performs better and better. It's only natural that people start to fight back.

Wheeliebin30 · 22-09-2018 8:25pm

tigger123 wrote: »

The housing issue is starting to reach a tipping point. We can expect more and more of these types of protests as it's gonna get worse before it gets better.

Things are getting steadily worse for large sections of society as the economy overall performs better and better. It's only natural that people start to fight back.

Large sections?

Any links etc to this claim?

tigger123 · 22-09-2018 8:26pm

hmmm wrote: »

The only thing they are highlighting is how much contempt they have for people who are trying to earn a living, and are probably paying a mortgage. Sitting down and blocking a main artery of the city so they can get a few headlines for themselves.

We go through this every year from hard left groups, and it's well past time the guards stopped indulging this.

They blocked traffic ffs. People have a right to protest.

Brendan Bendar · 22-09-2018 8:26pm

hmmm wrote: »

The only thing they are highlighting is how much contempt they have for people who are trying to earn a living. Sitting down and blocking a main artery of the city so they can get a few headlines for themselves.

We go through this every year from hard left groups, and it's well past time the guards stopped indulging this.

They won’t be caught hole open like they were in Jobbo, hmmm.

That’s for sure.They have learned their lesson.

Freddo tells you that.

hmmm · 22-09-2018 8:27pm

tigger123 wrote: »

They blocked traffic ffs. People have a right to protest.

They didn't block "traffic". They are blocking the ability of people to move, and at the times they have chosen they are largely blocking the ability of workers to get home.

tigger123 · 22-09-2018 8:28pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Large sections?

Any links etc to this claim?

From Cso.ie, referring to the 2016 census-

"Rented accommodation has continued its upward trend with 497,111 households renting, an increase of 4.7 per cent on 2011. This meant that renting was the tenure status for almost 30 per cent of all of occupied dwellings in the last census."

tigger123 · 22-09-2018 8:28pm

hmmm wrote: »

They didn't block "traffic". They are blocking the ability of people to move, and at the times they have chosen they are largely blocking the ability of workers to get home.

Really? On a Saturday?

Guy:Incognito · 22-09-2018 8:30pm

tigger123 wrote: »

They blocked traffic ffs. People have a right to protest.

And what of others rights to do what they're doing (going home etc) who's rights are more important and why does one superceed the other?

You can protest for months on end on the path outside leinster house if you want and it won't put others out.

pjohnson · 22-09-2018 8:31pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Ahhhhhhhh:)

Once again, I paid 21,000 tax last year, how much did these morons pay?

Corporation tax around 3k.

What about yourself?

Run for election. You hero.

JupiterKid · 22-09-2018 8:31pm

The average number of occupants per dwelling, after a steady decline from 1900 to 2011, rose for the first time since data was collected between 2011 and 2016, a definite sign of deteriorating housing standards for a significant section of the population.

Wheeliebin30 · 22-09-2018 8:31pm

tigger123 wrote: »

From Cso.ie, referring to the 2016 census-

"Rented accommodation has continued its upward trend with 497,111 households renting, an increase of 4.7 per cent on 2011. This meant that renting was the tenure status for almost 30 per cent of all of occupied dwellings in the last census."

Great so you showed a link for how many people rent.

Now have you a link for your claim its getting harder for large sections of society?

Yer Da sells Avon · 22-09-2018 8:31pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Ahhhhhhhh:)

Once again, I paid 21,000 tax last year, how much did these morons pay?

Corporation tax around 3k.

What about yourself?

Ok, ok... if it'll prevent me from having to witness the unedifying spectacle of a stranger on the internet publishing documentary evidence of his tax returns, in a desperate bid to prove that he has contributed something positive to society... can I just say I believe you. Your protestations have absolutely convinced me.

Guy:Incognito · 22-09-2018 8:32pm

tigger123 wrote: »

Really? On a Saturday?

Quite lot of people work on the weekends you know.

Anything you do on the weekends that have staff for instance......

Wheeliebin30 · 22-09-2018 8:32pm

pjohnson wrote: »

Run for election. You hero.

Nope just an answer and question as said poster questioned if I contributed to society.

pjohnson · 22-09-2018 8:33pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

And what of others rights to do what they're doing (going home etc) who's rights are more important and why does one superceded the other?

You can protest for months on end on the path outside leinster house if you want and it won't put others out.

I spose your the type who sticks your car up on footpaths then.

pjohnson · 22-09-2018 8:33pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Nope just an answer and question as said poster questioned if I contributed to society.

Such a martyr

tigger123 · 22-09-2018 8:34pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Great so you showed a link for how many people rent.

Now have you a link for your claim its getting harder for large sections of society?

I was referring to people who rent in my original post. More people are renting, and life is becoming more difficult for people who rent.

Guy:Incognito · 22-09-2018 8:34pm

pjohnson wrote: »

I spose your the type who sticks your car up on footpaths then.

Yeah..... Sure...... Whatever floats your boat there chap.

That sure answered the post concisely.

Wheeliebin30 · 22-09-2018 8:36pm

tigger123 wrote: »

I was referring to people who rent in my original post. More people are renting, and life is becoming more difficult for people who rent.

For the 500,000 people?

Have you a link to your claim?

22-09-2018 8:36pm

hmmm wrote: »

They didn't block "traffic". They are blocking the ability of people to move, and at the times they have chosen they are largely blocking the ability of workers to get home.

On a saturday?

pjohnson · 22-09-2018 8:37pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Yeah..... Sure...... Whatever floats your boat there chap.

That sure answered the post concisely.

You are crying over blocked roads. You said they can block the path instead.

Inconvenience some but just not me eh?

McMurphy · 22-09-2018 8:38pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Nice twist.

I take it you support Ms Cash and her burglar fella?

Oh and she is a criminal too.

Know next to shag all about her or her fella, and care for either less so.

What I do know though is that she's being pointed at by yourself and others like the protests and housing crisis is about her, and only her.

10k last I heard, which is a shocking figure if true.

Guy:Incognito · 22-09-2018 8:39pm

pjohnson wrote: »

You are crying over blocked roads. You said they can block the path instead.

Inconvenience some but just not me eh?

Who would they be inconveniencing? There's plenty of room on the path on the other side of the road.

When youre sitting in a car in a line of traffic on the quays and the road is blocked you can't exactly just do a u turn or nip across the hapenny bridge.

pjohnson · 22-09-2018 8:40pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Know next to shag all about her or her fella, and care for neither less so.

What I do know though is that she's being pointed at by yourself and others like the protests and housing crisis is about her, and only her.

10k last I heard, which is a shocking figure if true.

It seems AH has a huge fetish over her, if she does anything on FB theres a gaggle rushing here to report it. :pac:

Defo have her bookmarked and checked every hour.

McMurphy · 22-09-2018 8:43pm

pjohnson wrote: »

It seems AH has a huge fetish over her, if she does anything on FB theres a gaggle rushing here to report it. :pac:

Long running thread in here about her.

Had a peak today, W.B has a fairly high post count in it alright, bit of an obsession it would seem.

Don't get the obsession myself, she's only going to get publicity te more she's discussed.

tigger123 · 22-09-2018 8:44pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

For the 500,000 people?

Have you a link to your claim?

I don't have a definitive link to hand to back up my claim.

I stand by my original point though. The issue of housing is reaching a critical mass. And I think the civil disobedience around it wll only increase as it continues to reach up through society and affect the middle classes.

Look at what happened with the Vietnam war i
the US. There was no urgency around it until the Government started drafting middle class college students. Then the protests really started kicking off.

The Frederick St protest and reaction

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