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Pocophone F1 - The new flagship killer?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    The price of the Poco F1 has been dropping on Amazon DE IT & ES.
    Here in Sweden various bricks and mortar and Internet sellers have started to show stock of the 64GB EU version in the last day or two so it looks like decent stock is finally becoming available in Europe.

    invest4deepvalue.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭The Soup Thief


    alec76 wrote: »
    What do u mean ? You are saying , they won't pay you at all if goods are lost , no matter if they insured or not?
    They definitely won't pay you if it is not insured .

    No, that's not what I'm saying.
    Read the t's & c's
    If you don't buy insured insured delivery and it arrives damaged in the post you have a day or two to inform them and they will replace it. If you buy insurance you have a few days more (I forget the exact period but you can look it up as easily as I could).

    Their insured delivery covers damage in the post. Not loss. Delivery is traced either way

    Whether or not you pay for insured delivery, if it arrives and you don't like it it doesn't work you've a month to switch it, but you pay the postage

    So it doesn't make much difference whether you pay for insured delivery or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭The Soup Thief


    I'm going to paypal to get my money back if it doesn't show up!

    That's what I did too. Can't be too careful, though there shouldn't be any issue if things don't arrive - as I say, delivery is tracked either way. Their small print ain't that small!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭The Soup Thief


    Damoedge wrote: »
    This option on xda claims to be instant unlock of bootloader...can anyone confirm this?


    Option 2
    Mi Flashtool Run as Administrator the Mi Flashtool
    Extract and RUN .exe file and sign in your Mi account
    Sign in your Mi account in your Pocophone F1 (Go to Settings >Mi Unlock Status >Add Account & Device and make sure you’re logged In.)
    Go to fastboot mode by pressing and holding Volume down + Power Button at the same time and connect to PC.
    Click the Unlock Button and DON'T PANIC let the process begin and wait until finish.
    Go to fastboot type fastboot oem device-info. Check if Unlocked or Locked.


    I tried it but it came up saying to wait 72 hours....unless I'm doing something wrong?

    Thanks all...

    No, you're doing it right. It's instant provided the Mi servers will permit the unlock.
    Both methods rely on connecting to Mi servers to get the unlock code.
    That's the only way to get into Xiaomi bootloaders. Not ideal, but a hell of a lot better than Huawei, Samsung et al are offering these days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭Damoedge


    No, you're doing it right. It's instant provided the Mi servers will permit the unlock.
    Both methods rely on connecting to Mi servers to get the unlock code.
    That's the only way to get into Xiaomi bootloaders. Not ideal, but a hell of a lot better than Huawei, Samsung et al are offering these days!


    I have a brand new Huawei Honor V10...it's only a month old...and because of their new policy that I didn't know about when buying it I can not unlock it now!...that's why I bought the Poco...But the V10 is a beauty...sure I'll just have to sell it now...spilt milk in all...lol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭alec76


    No, that's not what I'm saying.
    Read the t's & c's
    I

    I did , I am pretty sure you are wrong there.
    https://www.eglobalcentral.eu/shipping-and-insurance-eu.html
    You'll get very little if they lost item in transit.
    courier companies only cover physical loss or damage of goods during transit* subject to the maximum liability specified in the terms and conditions of their service
    €50-100 for parcel , that is standard for courier liability.
    If you buying €350-400 phone ,will you be happy with €50 refund ?

    Eglobal is great company to deal with , until something went wrong.
    I would buy insurance. There is a Paypal route of course , but I rather spend €3 more and not wait few months for PayPal response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭The Soup Thief


    alec76 wrote: »
    I did , I am pretty sure you are wrong there.
    https://www.eglobalcentral.eu/shipping-and-insurance-eu.html
    You'll get very little if they lost item in transit.

    €50-100 for parcel , that is standard for courier liability.
    If you buying €350-400 phone ,will you be happy with €50 refund ?

    Eglobal is great company to deal with , until something went wrong.
    I would buy insurance. There is a Paypal route of course , but I rather spend €3 more and not wait few months for PayPal response.

    That's the bit where they're upselling their insured delivery. Read on to the bit about their own regular cover. Iirc the insured delivery is €6 more. Not a lot at all but I really didn't see any benefit when I was ordering


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭alec76


    Read on to the bit about their own regular cover.
    Do you mind to quote that bit ?
    The way I’ve got it , if your parcel lost or damaged in transit , you have to notify them in 48 hours . With no insurance purchased you’ll get a refund, probably store credit only ( up to
    to the maximum liability specified in the terms and conditions of their service
    which is approximately €50-100.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057809627


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,287 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Anyone see the armored kevlar edition for sale yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭god's toy


    That's the bit where they're upselling their insured delivery. Read on to the bit about their own regular cover. Iirc the insured delivery is €6 more. Not a lot at all but I really didn't see any benefit when I was ordering

    I just goggled for an offer code and used that to cover the insurance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,367 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    PayPal are extremely buyer biased when it comes to disputes, regardless of anyone's terms and conditions if you go to PayPal and complain you are more than likely going to get sorted. It is only €6 though, but as a shop I would be licking my lips at all the extra €6s I was getting for pretty much nothing 😀


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭corks finest


    PayPal are extremely buyer biased when it comes to disputes, regardless of anyone's terms and conditions if you go to PayPal and complain you are more than likely going to get sorted. It is only €6 though, but as a shop I would be licking my lips at all the extra €6s I was getting for pretty much nothing 😀
    Found pp fab on 3 occasions,bit drawn out yes,but got there eventually


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corkie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭Damoedge


    corkie wrote: »

    Read it this morning...it's a good review alright...looks like we have a great phone...all we need now is lineage os on it and we will be laughing...but that's not too far away as one dev got it to boot up with lineage on it and lineage themselves told me that it's coming...Woooooooohooooooooo ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭Damoedge


    Lineage on the Poco


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corkie


    Damoedge wrote: »
    Read it this morning...it's a good review alright...looks like we have a great phone...all we need now is lineage os on it and we will be laughing...but that's not too far away as one dev got it to boot up with lineage on it and lineage themselves told me that it's coming...Woooooooohooooooooo ....
    Damoedge wrote: »
    Lineage on the Poco


    Unofficial LOS Based on Oreo!

    As development has stopped for Oreo, you will probably waiting awhile for Official PIE based release.

    Bluesky: ATProtoViewer ~ PWA + #Bookmarks + bsky share feature.
    ^^ My latest github pages experimental code.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    corkie wrote: »
    Unofficial LOS Based on Oreo!

    As development has stopped for Oreo, you will probably waiting awhile for Official PIE based release.

    As an Official lineage dev, I can tell you development for Oreo has not stopped :) still updates being pushed. Nougat has however, or will be, stopped soon. Two android versions officially at a time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corkie


    As an Official lineage dev, I can tell you development for Oreo has not stopped :) still updates being pushed. Nougat has however, or will be, stopped soon. Two android versions officially at a time.


    The XDA threads for WHYRED would probably disagree with you.
    Only security patches been applied.

    RR (based on LOS) has been given a final official Oreo build.

    My Nexus 9 (on it's last legs, hardware failing) will probably be stuck on 23/08 Nougat Build. It is not even getting security patches anymore.

    Bluesky: ATProtoViewer ~ PWA + #Bookmarks + bsky share feature.
    ^^ My latest github pages experimental code.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭Damoedge


    corkie wrote: »
    The XDA threads for WHYRED would probably disagree with you.
    Only security patches been applied.

    RR (based on LOS) has been given a final official Oreo build.

    My Nexus 9 (on it's last legs, hardware failing) will probably be stuck on 23/08 Nougat Build. It is not even getting security patches anymore.

    Why is everyone going crazy about security patches...it's like some people think they can't use there phone unless they have the most recent up to date blaady bla patch....I mean it wasn't too long ago that these patches didn't even exist and everyone seems to forget about android and viruses...?

    Not having a go at you mate at all...it's just everywhere I read in different forums people are banging on about security patches...and then the encryption oh be the lordie...you'd swear that some people had national security documents on there little auld phones...lol lol...
    Rant over ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭Damoedge


    As an Official lineage dev, I can tell you development for Oreo has not stopped :) still updates being pushed. Nougat has however, or will be, stopped soon. Two android versions officially at a time.

    So when do you think that we will see a release of LOS official or unofficial on xda for this phone?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Damoedge wrote: »
    Why is everyone going crazy about security patches...it's like some people think they can't use there phone unless they have the most recent up to date blaady bla patch....I mean it wasn't too long ago that these patches didn't even exist and everyone seems to forget about android and viruses...?

    Not having a go at you mate at all...it's just everywhere I read in different forums people are banging on about security patches...and then the encryption oh be the lordie...you'd swear that some people had national security documents on there little auld phones...lol lol...
    Rant over ;)

    Some people want security patches
    Some people want 2k screens
    Some people want dual sim
    Some people want Amoled
    Some people want LCD
    Some people want headphone jacks
    Some people want updates
    Some people want unlockable bootloaders
    Some people want dual front speakers
    Some people want 16MP selfie cameras

    If not we'd all just be using the same phone and you can rest assured that a lot of people will think what you want from a phone is pointless, the same as they'll think what I want from a phone is pointless.


  • Posts: 12,548 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Some people want security patches
    Some people want 2k screens
    Some people want dual sim
    Some people want Amoled
    Some people want LCD
    Some people want headphone jacks
    Some people want updates
    Some people want unlockable bootloaders
    Some people want dual front speakers
    Some people want 16MP selfie cameras

    If not we'd all just be using the same phone and you can rest assured that a lot of people will think what you want from a phone is pointless, the same as they'll think what I want from a phone is pointless.

    Pointless post :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    They all are when you're trying to speak sense to a developer I suppose.

    But really, nothing is pointless if enough people deem them important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭Damoedge


    Patww79 wrote: »
    They all are when you're trying to speak sense to a developer I suppose.

    But really, nothing is pointless if enough people deem them important.

    Pointless is important to otherwise it wouldn't exist ;)

    But yes I get ya and it's true...I just want a simple auld phone that knows what button I'm gonna press next lol lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 bargainboy


    Hey the solutionshop.global has this phone ( 6gb+128)for 298.54 any colour all taxes etc paid global software installed my question is what is the difference between global and European software in relation to this phone ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭god's toy


    bargainboy wrote: »
    Hey the solutionshop.global has this phone ( 6gb+128)for 298.54 any colour all taxes etc paid global software installed my question is what is the difference between global and European software in relation to this phone ?

    Does solutionshop.global cover import fees if stopped?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 bargainboy


    It says so on their site I ordered 2 mi A1 phones from them and had very fast delivery others said they didn't thought some people said they had phones ordered from eglobal stolen Durning delivery the mi a1 thread is here on boards make of it what you will ?they advertise the pocophone F1 with global ROM Amazon advertise European ROM not sure of the difference ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭god's toy


    I know one version you had (still have?) to change the phones location to get the Infrared unlock working, maybe the European version sorts that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    corkie wrote: »
    The XDA threads for WHYRED would probably disagree with you.
    Only security patches been applied.

    RR (based on LOS) has been given a final official Oreo build.

    My Nexus 9 (on it's last legs, hardware failing) will probably be stuck on 23/08 Nougat Build. It is not even getting security patches anymore.

    While RR is based on LOS, they are different people and they do their own thing.

    Lineage will be supporting Oreo builds until Q comes out, at which point it will be dropped. While it may only be security patches, its still going to be supported and they will be merged, and bugs will still be fixed if they get found.

    There are unofficial builds for Flounder (Nexus 9), but there have been issues with some hardware choices that require 'hacks' to get going, which goes against Lineage's policy, and needs an exception to be allowed to merge them. I don't believe the flounder maintainer has put in any requests.

    Just because some individual devices will be dropped, doesn't mean official support for LOS15.1 devices will be dropped. If a new maintainer comes along and wants to maintain and make a device official on 15.1, they can.

    For example, we just made chagalllte (Samsung galaxy tab s 10.5 LTE) official on 14.1 (Nougat) since its still an officially supported OS until official Pie builds start :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Damoedge wrote: »
    So when do you think that we will see a release of LOS official or unofficial on xda for this phone?

    At the moment bgcngm has only added support for the device to the 845 trees etc this week, he is a good maintainer however so i'd say soon enough, but nothing has been said as of yet.


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