Pocophone F1 - The new flagship killer?

Subcomandante Marcos

So Xiaomi just launched the "Pocohpone F1".
A phone with a 6.18" IPS HD+ Display, Snapdragon 845, 6/8GB Ram, 64/128/256 gb storage, decent dual camera setup, and a 4000mAh battery, which will retail at approx €260.

Insane value for money and blows anything in it's price range out of the water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

StereoSound

The thing I look for in a flagship killer phone is fast updates. Nice hardware but old software is something that bothers me.
Xiaomi are slow enough with their Android one phone updates, just as an indication.

Subcomandante Marcos

Give me those specs for something around €300 and I'll wait on updates.
The specs are similar to phones with price tags over 300% higer.

maximoose

Looks lovely, and cracking spec for the price.

6.18" sounds a little too Phablety for me though, would like to see one in real life.

0lddog

Cant see Spanish speakers thinking it poco.

banie01

The NFC and 4000mah battery are huge pluses for me and an 845 chipset at this price point is fantastic.
I will wait for some more reviews 1st but it has jumped to the top of my maybe queue.

banie01

banie01 wrote: »

The NFC and 4000mah battery are huge pluses for me and an 845 chipset at this price point is fantastic.
I will wait for some more reviews 1st but it has jumped to the top of my maybe queue.

Pretty sure there's no NFC.

banie01

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Pretty sure there's no NFC.

It's been flagged as no on some sites and as yes on others.
I'm hoping it's in, hence waiting for more reviews.

banie01

banie01 wrote: »

It's been flagged as no on some sites and as yes on others.
I'm hoping it's in, hence waiting for more reviews.

Hands-on reviews have said it doesn't so I wouldn't get your hopes up.

corwill

https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_pocophone_f1-review-1808.php

corwill

I was already making eyes at a Mi6 I didn't really need, but I doubt I'll be able to keep away from this at the prices quoted (rubs thighs, pants softly).

So long, perfectly functional OnePlus 5, you're off to CEX!

Subcomandante Marcos

corwill wrote: »

I was already making eyes at a Mi6 I didn't really need, but I doubt I'll be able to keep away from this at the prices quoted (rubs thighs, pants softly).

So long, perfectly functional OnePlus 5, you're off to CEX!

You're daft as a brush if you sell to CEX. You'll get bear double the price of you throw it up on adverts. You'd under cut them substantially and still make far more than by selling to them.

corwill

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You're daft as a brush if you sell to CEX. You'll get bear double the price of you throw it up on adverts. You'd under cut them substantially and still make far more than by selling to them.

I know, pure laziness on my part.

Mantis Toboggan

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Give me those specs for something around €300 and I'll wait on updates.
The specs are similar to phones with price tags over 300% higer.

Will we be able to buy in Ireland for €300?

OldMrBrennan83

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You're daft as a brush if you sell to CEX. You'll get bear double the price of you throw it up on adverts. You'd under cut them substantially and still make far more than by selling to them.

I'd take far less money not to have to deal with bloody donedeal/adverts pukes.

Who do a lot of these Chinese manufacturers not do NFC?

ianob7

Patww79 wrote:

Who do a lot of these Chinese manufacturers not do NFC?

Maybe cause Google is banned they don't see the need ??

OldMrBrennan83

ianob7 wrote: »

Maybe cause Google is banned they don't see the need ??

True, but it can be used for more than mobile payments. Maybe it just takes up too much battery room.

Tyson Fury

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Will we be able to buy in Ireland for €300?

Assuming prices will be similar to the rest of Europe it will be €400-€440 to buy without possibility of customs charge.

Subcomandante Marcos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Assuming prices will be similar to the rest of Europe it will be €400-€440 to buy without possibility of customs charge.

Those prices are based don a leak from late July that ended up being way over priced compared to the actual price for the Indian market. They predicted INR 33k for India when the actual price is 21k.

Subcomandante Marcos

Patww79 wrote: »

I'd take far less money not to have to deal with bloody donedeal/adverts pukes.

Who do a lot of these Chinese manufacturers not do NFC?

The main use for most people for the NFC is mobile payments via Google pay etc.
Aside from Google being (sort of) banned in China the main reason Google pay and his equivalents haven't taken off in China is because everyone uses WePay.
Similarly in Kenya NFC Payment is largely ignored because everyone has been using MPESA for near a decade. These platforms precede and basically outperform Google pay etc and are more widely applicable.

For that reason it's just seen as an unnecessary additional cost to have to put an NFC interface in the phone.

Do-more

This review claims a price of €300/£270

https://youtu.be/BaEIGEFcTTQ

I had been looking at getting a Nokia 6.1 plus for my 12y.o. daughter but this looks like a better alternative. Only concern is that it might be too big for her.

The carbon fibre "armoured" edition looks great, wonder what the price will be like for that?

[Edit] The EU launch will take place in Paris next Monday.

One Dutch retailer has the F1 up for pre-order at €399 with delivery to start in two weeks time but no indication that that is the official price.

https://gsmarena.com/xiaomimade_pocophone_f1_is_up_for_preorder_in_the_netherlands-news-32891.php

davo2001

Big difference between the earlier quoted price of €260, now looking at €400 :-(

breeno

Cheap gorilla glass 3 used on these and more worryingly no smudge protection which is criminal in this day and age. My mother in law has an old Vodafone brand phone that doesn't have the smudge protection* and its like theres a coat of grease on the screen when I use it**

* smudge protection is definitely not the correct term but there is some form of coating that most phones use and this doesnt have it. I think it's the Engadget or The Verge review that flags it as an issue.
**I do admittedly have clammy hands!

corwill

breeno wrote: »

Cheap gorilla glass 3 used on these and more worryingly no smudge protection which is criminal in this day and age. My mother in law has an old Vodafone brand phone that doesn't have the smudge protection* and its like theres a coat of grease on the screen when I use it**

* smudge protection is definitely not the correct term but there is some form of coating that most phones use and this doesnt have it. I think it's the Engadget or The Verge review that flags it as an issue.
**I do admittedly have clammy hands!

Nothing wrong with GG3 (it's more scratch resistant than GG5). I'm sweaty enough that no amount of oleophobic coating seems to make much difference!

Mark Hamill

breeno wrote: »

Cheap gorilla glass 3 used on these and more worryingly no smudge protection which is criminal in this day and age. My mother in law has an old Vodafone brand phone that doesn't have the smudge protection* and its like theres a coat of grease on the screen when I use it**

* smudge protection is definitely not the correct term but there is some form of coating that most phones use and this doesnt have it. I think it's the Engadget or The Verge review that flags it as an issue.
**I do admittedly have clammy hands!

I always get tempered glass screen protectors, so not an issue for me.

Do-more

My guess is that the official EU price will be around €300+vat so in and around €370.

sydthebeat

glad i didnt pull the trigger on the A2..... this definitley has me tempted.... but ill wait to see the retail prices

dowling06

Picked up the Mi 8 delivered for 380 and now its down to 327 already. Its a brilliant phone and has the edge over the Pocophone in everything bar CPU cooling, expandable storage and battery.

MoodeRator

Gearbest currently showing 358eur for the 64gb and 390eur for the 128gb

Subcomandante Marcos

MoodeRator wrote: »

Gearbest currently showing 358eur for the 64gb and 390eur for the 128gb

Those aren't the prices they'll sell for. The only market with an official MSRP is India. The European launch and price announcement is next week and the rest of Asia is after that.
The prices being used on geartbeat Euro retailers is based on two things. The prices leaked in late July and the cost of importing from India.

The Indian price prediction ended up being over by over 30% where the leaks said prices would be from INR 33,000 when the phone launched from INR 20,999 with even the most expensive model being less than the quoted 33k price.

For now all we know is that there's a European launch next week and the prices will be fairly similar to the conversion of the Indian price.

Consumer electronics are generally MORE expensive in India than Europe due to the way VAT and customs duties are applied to "luxury" items to try boast sales goods manufactured in India over imported goods.

I'd be very surprised if Xiaomi charge a significantly higher price for the phone in Europe than they do in India.

corwill

dowling06 wrote: »

Picked up the Mi 8 delivered for 380 and now its down to 327 already. Its a brilliant phone and has the edge over the Pocophone in everything bar CPU cooling, expandable storage and battery.

Where did you see the Mi8 for 327?

sydthebeat

dowling06 wrote: »

Picked up the Mi 8 delivered for 380 and now its down to 327 already. Its a brilliant phone and has the edge over the Pocophone in everything bar CPU cooling, expandable storage and battery.

does the Mi 8 have a sim slot for expanding SD storage?

Subcomandante Marcos

sydthebeat wrote: »

does the Mi 8 have a sim slot for expanding SD storage?

No hybrid sim tray in the Mi8

ibFoxer

This seemingly has it's own "Poco" skin instead of MIUI which is apparently a major plus. I have never used a Xiaomi device but MIUI looks a bit annoying.

Subcomandante Marcos

ibFoxer wrote: »

This seemingly has it's own "Poco" skin instead of MIUI which is apparently a major plus. I have never used a Xiaomi device but MIUI looks a bit annoying.

Miui does what a lot of Chinese skins do and tries to make android look.and behave like iOS which is super annoying. But it works very well in terms of responsiveness etc.

OldMrBrennan83

There's a Pocophone launcher for anyone with MIUI 9 or 10 to try too.

https://www.androidauthority.com/xiaomi-pocophone-f1-wallpapers-898103/

ibFoxer

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Miui does what a lot of Chinese skins do and tries to make android look.and behave like iOS which is super annoying. But it works very well in terms of responsiveness etc.

No app drawer would annoy me at this stage, and that's coming off practically every iteration of iPhone since the first. The switch to android has been a blessing.

Subcomandante Marcos

ibFoxer wrote: »

No app drawer would annoy me at this stage, and that's coming off practically every iteration of iPhone since the first. The switch to android has been a blessing.

Easy fix is to just install a third party launcher like Nova, tbh.

ibFoxer

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Easy fix is to just install a third party launcher like Nova, tbh.

Of course yeah, but the point is that MIUI is a rip of iOS and not in keeping with even other android skin.

Either which way, Poco skin looks good.

Subcomandante Marcos

ibFoxer wrote: »

Of course yeah, but the point is that MIUI is a rip of iOS and not in keeping with even other android skin.

Either which way, Poco skin looks good.

I definitely agree. I'm using a p10 at the minute and when I setup and it had no drawer I was tempted to send it back until I found the option for the drawer in the settings. It annoyed the ****e out of me. I like a clean hone screen with minimal apps, just a my clock and weather widgets and maybe my music player.

ibFoxer

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

I definitely agree. I'm using a p10 at the minute and when I setup and it had no drawer I was tempted to send it back until I found the option for the drawer in the settings. It annoyed the ****e out of me. I like a clean hone screen with minimal apps, just a my clock and weather widgets and maybe my music player.

Galaxy S8, Nova, two rows of apps in the smallest icon size that looks good, and lots of space on the home screen.

dowling06

corwill wrote: »

Where did you see the Mi8 for 327?

Here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Original-Xiaomi-MI-8-6GB-RAM-64GB-ROM-Snapdragon-S845-Octa-Core-Mobile-Phone-3400mAh/32881574037.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.12.41532173BYoMAz&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_10342_10547_10343_10546_10340_5724715_10548_10341_10545_10696_10084_5724015_10083_10618_5724315_10307_5724215_5724115_10059_100031_5725015_10103_5724915_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_45,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=0ca55659-f585-43cc-a8a4-8a3ae36590d9-1&algo_pvid=0ca55659-f585-43cc-a8a4-8a3ae36590d9&priceBeautifyAB=0

They ship a bunch of phones to someone in the UK and then send your package from within the UK to you via DHL. That way you cant be charged for customs as its from within the UK.

corwill

dowling06 wrote: »

Here: (snip)

They ship a bunch of phones to someone in the UK and then send your package from within the UK to you via DHL. That way you cant be charged for customs as its from within the UK.

Thanks for that. Ever used that vendor?

dowling06

corwill wrote: »

Thanks for that. Ever used that vendor?

Yup have the Mi 8 here myself. Brilliant phone and takes around 10-14 days to deliver. Running the Global MIUI 10 ROM from xiaomi.eu

corkie

[Unbox Therapy] Pocophone F1 - How Is This Smartphone Possible?

Do-more

ibFoxer wrote: »

No app drawer would annoy me at this stage, and that's coming off practically every iteration of iPhone since the first. The switch to android has been a blessing.

The Pocophone launcher has an app drawer.

Thargor

Glad it has that massive hideous notch or Id be regretting my recent purchase of the Mi Max 3 looking at those specs, Xiaomi are going to achieve ridiculous market share soon.

ED E

Patww79 wrote: »

Who do a lot of these Chinese manufacturers not do NFC?

Chips are made by two companies that are a bit feud-y or were. They may not be willing to cough up the kinda prices required for the near closed ecosystem.

squawker

Thargor wrote: »

Glad it has that massive hideous notch

oh yes the Notch of Doom

fcuking hate it

corwill

squawker wrote: »

oh yes the Notch of Doom

fcuking hate it

I could barely contain my disgust at the notch on the iPhone X when it launched. But the world has taken leave of its senses and it's practically the new normal in the space of a year.

Worse again, over the last couple of months I've found myself thinking 'it's alright, I suppose'... Although, the absolute state of the renders I've seen for the Pixel 3XL.

jacksie66

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