Sherlock - A game of Werewolf!

Abigail WW wrote: »

Orla does not fully believe wini but confirms the message, it's time etc what happens if the next person does the same?

We believe the messages exist at least but like Orla continue to be weary of the source?

Eva do you believe Wini? I get more of a vibe of you doing so than not

Well I believe that if she is playing a wolf game, it is a very dangerous one for her. Claiming that 3 villagers will be able to confirm her would not be my ideal choice to fake a role. I honestly know that I am village so when she survives tonight, she is telling the truth in some way. Unless she is Moriarty and with her 2 peeks has peeked me and Orla, and the 3rd person doesn't exist (which might be why Wini wants them to reveal, rather than her). But as i said, if she is a wolf, it's an unnecessarily convoluted play for a wolf and role for them to create.

I have seen more bullshít claims in the past, the wording of the message from Wini was quite good. The details straight and to the point. Believing her fully is one thing, but I'm certainly willing to give her the benefit of the doubt in light of the the implications for the village if she is genuine. If she is a wolf, what has she achieved here creating such a role? Bearing in mind, it would have been created before she faced a bullet this morning and was pure desperate.

You go for one little nap.


I honestly dont know what i think about this. Wini's bonefieds i mean.

Riona WW wrote: »

Relax Eva . I’m the other person who received the note.

I’ve been reluctant to completely be on board cause I wasn’t sure if it was a baddy or goody role. I felt my dancing with Dessie was the reason Winnie chose me.

My internet was down for most of morning and I’m making lunch now.

I posted to Winnie at 9.08 last night because that was 12 hours after I received my note fork Winnie. I was worried that I might die after 12 hours of helping Winnie get Dessie and that nobody would know why. So I posted as close to 9.08 in case the 12 hour thing was a ruse and I would die. I was leaving a clue for people to look at Winnie as my potential last post.

I’m leaning on team good but I thought it would be more a Mrs Hudson type of power.

And it’s not a seer power if we believe the dynamics being explained. Basically the person has to put their knock on the line every day when they pick somebody.

I think this post is my main issue right now. How can Riona lean team good so easily after all the grief she gave brendan and clodagh (now confirmed) this morning.

Is it just because you are part of it?

Gertrude WW wrote: »

I think this post is my main issue right now. How can Riona lean team good so easily after all the grief she gave brendan and clodagh (now confirmed) this morning.

Is it just because you are part of it?

I still don’t trust Brendan. Clodagh never cleared him which was odd.

Also clodagh hasn’t mentioned me for some time, even when people were actually singling me out and asking her to respond. Like Derry ....

So don’t put words that weren’t in clodaghs mouth. She didn’t seem to have me in any radar for some time ... interesting that you are trying to fight a battle for her....

Abigail WW wrote: »

Have you missed Riona saying she is the 3rd? you surviving does not confirm her. I know you would like it to as that would confirm you both but just cos she says she could die after 12hrs does not make it so. I am actually inclined to slightly believe it given the unusual mix of people involved and their history but I am not sure how to proceed. I'm almost inclined to follow Liam's suggestion above but if I was to look at that list he left minus you guys he would actually be one of the people i'd be looking at more than most so I really dont know

Well that's why I included myself in there. If it needs to be me lynched tonight then so be it. I'd rather the village work through that list than pull itself apart like in the last game.

Riona WW wrote: »

Did clodagh confirm Brendan on thread? ....

If not, what motive do you think she would have to not confirm if? How does that benefit the village in anyway having that ambiguity?

@Brendan what was the logic to her not confirming you?

Clodagh confirmed the BG to the wolves. She forced wini (if good) to come out after threatening to shoot her. She doesn’t confirm Brendan as good and Then she dies when wini reveals a role that has 3 other people who might potentially back it up.

Huh, did she not? I just assumed she had. Brendan????

Clodagh WW wrote: »

Just got as far as this (Sorry I'm replying as I'm catching up)

Soo.... Is everyone alright with me shooting Wini?

The "sure ain't clever" part is in reference to me accidentally outing Brendan as bg to the wolves. The wolves picked asked Brendan to kill themselves or Tegan. Brendan shot Tegan. When I came out I told everyone that Mary Watson killed Tegan, thereby outing her.
Sorry wifey! I'll bring home the champagne and roses to make it up to you!

And also sorry to you guys. I got kinda swept up with my reveal and gave away too much info after.

Clodagh says Brendan is BG here.

It's odd that she never confirmed him (if that is indeed the case) but not contradicting him probably says just as much if not more.

Gertrude WW wrote: »

What words did i put in her mouth?

I said you didnt trust her. She was killed by wolves whoch confirms her 100%

Ah lads no she my never have said brendan was bg but she disnt codradict him either.

My question is why are you so ready to believe this and you STILL dont believe the most plausable scenario re Clodagh and Brendan???

I didn’t see her confirm Brendan but Nigel found the post..

Clodagh wasn’t suspicious of me. What grief did I give clodagh and Brendan? Oh you mean asking questions about their reveals and not immediately pocketing them or jumping on their bandwagon like you thanking one of Brendan’s post near his reveal?

I am paranoid and cynical like Derry regularly reminds me but it doesn’t imply I’m bad....

Riona WW wrote: »

I didn’t see her confirm Brendan but Nigel found the post..

Clodagh wasn’t suspicious of me. What grief did I give clodagh and Brendan? Oh you mean asking questions about their reveals and not immediately pocketing them or jumping on their bandwagon like you thanking one of Brendan’s post near his reveal?

I am paranoid and cynical like Derry regularly reminds me but it doesn’t imply I’m bad....

Where did i immediatrly pocket him. I must have asked about 5 questions this morning before i settled on it as being true

Riona WW wrote: »

And Clodagh can also wait to see how the wind blows on this revelation and if the village accepts Brendans story before confirming . . If its a wolf play , best to wait and see if the village will go with it before committing .

Clodagh hasn't been around since around 7am and there are RL reasons why this might be the case . .

But I assume Brendan and Clodagh discussed the reveal, so its odd Clodagh didn't even have a prepared statement to confirm straight away . .

Its even odder that Clodagh didn't do a 9.59 post confirming this in case Brendan was munched. The wolves supposedly chose to not munch the BG. They knew Brendan was the BG if Clodaghs story is true because she said mary was blackmailed into shooting herself or Teagan. So the wolves chose Mary to be blackmailed. Clodagh confirmed on thread that Mary was the BG

So why was Brendan sorry he came out on thread ?


This doesn't add up . .

I feel

You have questioned both of them here. I think there are more of you questioning clodagh this morning.

Im not saying winni is lying, dont get me wrong. What I am saying is that how quickly you have accepted this, without questioning it is suspicious to me. It doesn't fit your MO and I am questioning why.

Are you Irene? This is my concern right now above all else.

Yo wini, you going to address the concerns with your claim that people are raising, or just fob them off and ignore them?

Cause the fobbing option isn't helping your claim.

Liam WW wrote: »

Eva, Riona came out as the last messagee.

So the wolves know who's on team village so it wouldn't be a huge stretch for Wini to have this secret bad guy role and message the 3 of you to get you on board to support her? I'm not sure how this would fit in the theme though. What hidden character could she be?

Hey, that's a good point too.

Okay, we're going hard on Wini here. Can we maybe admit that if we lynch her though, we are dismissing a chance at confirming some villagers? I know it won't be good enough for some, but some could be wolves. If Mary gets to live past lynch tonight, she finds out that I'm good. That clears me for her if she's good, it helps me, Riona and Orla build some trust, it helps the village build a core.

Also...

Farewell Clodagh our vig. Can I say to anyone who is still suspecting me, I was the only one to bring up/ask about Jeff Hope striking again today, and did it at least twice. If I was him, or a wolf, I wouldn't be looking to bring up a forgotten wolf when the thread were in disarray about something else.

We need to start believing some people, and if not believing them, just not jumping the gun and nailing colours to one mast so early after the fact.

On that note - Again Derry, for a third time, how does it makes sense for me and Orla to be part of a wolf team and this to be one big plot? Orla nearly lead me into a lynch last night, I tried to do the same to her and was planning on doing that again today until Wini's info came to light. How would that make any sense if we were both wolves? There are ballsy wolf moves, but last night was skirting a little too close to the edge of wolf suicide if me and Orla are wolves.

As well as repeatedly ignoring a valid question from me after you threw shade on me, you are now totally closing up on the possibility that Wini could be legit and the village could have a strong asset here. You are one of the very people making this a Wini and The Messaged v Brendan/Clodagh. Hmm. And why does it even need to be a Wini vs Clod/Bren thing? Did Wini come out with her claim disputing Clodagh or making heat against her? No. However, Clodagh and Brendan went on the immediate defensive.

You lay out reasoning for why Wini could be bs, but claim that she is a seer and the wolves should definitely have shot her rather than a vig loaded with bullets? As far as the wolves are concerned, Wini could be a self-fulfilling kill with her stipulation. Someone who isn't going to be so lucky as to choose multiple villagers in a row and survive, someone who is bound to message a wolf and die, someone not to waste a munch/kill on. The role can be seen as OPed for the village, but depending on Wini's choices, it could also be viewed as an extra kill for the wolves. it's not as simple as 'she is a seer so the wolves should have killed her' at all.

I'm not saying that's the way it definitely is, just saying that you should not be totally closing ranks on Wini's claim yet if you are village, or claiming she's a seer when that's not the case - there are very grave consequences to her role and actions. If it's a fake claim, well it will come undone no question about it.

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Yo wini, you going to address the concerns with your claim that people are raising, or just fob them off and ignore them?

Cause the fobbing option isn't helping your claim.

Didn't Wini say she was unavailable until later? But sure, go right ahead and ignore that so it fits your wolfy narrative.

Eva WW wrote: »

Someone who isn't going to be so lucky as to choose multiple villagers in a row and survive, someone who is bound to message a wolf and die, someone not to waste a munch/kill on.

Just on this: probably no harm if Wini survives the munch tomorrow to announce who she is planning to send a note to. This way, if she dies then we'll all know who the wolf was.

Gertrude WW wrote: »

Where did i immediatrly pocket him. I must have asked about 5 questions this morning before i settled on it as being true




You have questioned both of them here. I think there are more of you questioning clodagh this morning.

Im not saying winni is lying, dont get me wrong. What I am saying is that how quickly you have accepted this, without questioning it is suspicious to me. It doesn't fit your MO and I am questioning why.

Are you Irene? This is my concern right now above all else.

How quickly I accepted what? I’ve known about Winnie since yesterday morning..

I received a note from Winnie. I spotted her codeword this morning for Eva. I know she was going in hard for Dessie who I also felt was wolfy (I had a very public spat with him).

I’ve been pondering the Winnie thing for over a day, so it’s not like I’m just finding out and accepting what she has said this morning.

I don’t know if she is good or bad but on the balance of play it’s an awfully strong role for a baddy to have and makes sense as a good role. I also couldn’t work out which baddy role it might be. Maybe Eurus who can reprogram the human brain but doesn’t seem to add up when you read the rest of it..

The only goody power I could see it being Mrs Hudson – The mother figure of the group, Mrs Hudson is never shy of putting order in place when she sees the need. But Wini has said another role so I’m not sure on that...

Gabriel WW wrote: »

You cannot be this naiive.

I think you underestimate me my friend. Explain how this is naiive?