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Sherlock - A game of Werewolf!

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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭Wendy WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    So Wendy and Nigel are wolves

    Care to back that up or just throwing shade to distract the village?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Liam WW wrote: »
    To throw in my 2 cents on this issue. I don't like FFA's on day 1 as I think it's just mud slinging and ways of trapping people into making choices based on nothing. D1 lynches are usually mistakes.

    In saying that however I have a much better chance of putting 3 people in a suspicious/warranting more investigation list than giving a read on absolutely everyone in the village. So Orla, go right ahead and give us all your list. No problem with that. I'll probably try to hash together something like an FFA this evening. I've maybe 1 person I'd put on it so far. But as I said, it's only for a wishy washy reason.

    Can you tell us this now? before compiling the complete FFA. Just this one person, along with the wishywash reason.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭Wendy WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    Its weird they would tell you the consequence to Jeff if you picked the life option.

    Maybe but that's what I was said. We won't know until Wednesday I suppose, assuming Jeff lives that long.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭Eva WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    You've surpassed 5 posts, no need for any fluff now.

    Right, I'm going to say this once more because RL talk only derails the game - I have been completely detached from this game. Any confusion you players might have been feeling in the early stages yesterday, that's where I am now. Only, I still don't have the time to sleuth.

    I can give you nothing right now and as I said in my first post this afternoon, it'll be likely tomorrow before I'm any use.

    Deal with this whatever way you like, lynch me, munch me, but because I was facing modkill today I had to come in and say something despite my lack of knowledge.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Wendy WW wrote: »
    I was told specifically that
    wrong pick = instant death
    Right pick = life, and Jeff can't use his pills for one day.

    okay,
    Option 1) everything you say is true and you are not a wolf. you could be SK.

    Option 2) you are on team wolf, and jeff does have pills, but you have decided to forego the use of the pill to get wendy ww into deep wolf territory. possibly adler.

    I'm not going to choose now, but will attach all this to my notes on wendy ww.


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Where is Katie? Very active yesterday and nothing at all today.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Wendy WW wrote: »
    Care to back that up or just throwing shade to distract the village?

    The post I quoted stood way out, I always wonder why people post wolf strategies on thread, are you a wolf, putting your plan out there so its less believable (as it had been posted openly), or are you just stupid throwing out good plans for the evils.

    The run-in with Hope is stopping me dead in my tracks though, you did mention his pill game a few hours ago too, so I'm very conflicted there. I'd take you off the wolf list though :D


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    We are doing excellently on the auld FFA front.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭Doris WW


    Apologies for my absence. Work got the better of me today.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    Okay its your opinion that wwof london figured out the answer, and one of them answered a question? or they knew the answer and didn't answer the riddle? what exactly are you trying to say here?

    I'm not the first to suggest that the wolves are working together in the back room.
    Riona WW wrote: »
    But the wolves had 4 or 5 of them working on the answers together in the backroom. They each had their role and would I presume maybe know a bit about their character. They also knew their powers but not sure that helps clues...

    I’m not saying they are wolves but you can’t deny that wolves in a backroom don’t have an advantage over us individually trying to work it out. And if the wolves decided to use that information (not as bold a play as it might look IMO) it’s a great way to curry favor with the village ...
    Nigel WW wrote: »
    Death for whoever has post 245? Immunity from death for post 245??

    Wonder do the wolves know the answers to their abilities or do they need to decipher the clues (here, or in backroom??) in order to know how to use their powers?
    Wendy WW wrote: »
    I think this is an important point. It makes sense for the wolves to take part in puzzle solving. A wolf solving one of them would be the perfect cover to hide behind when accusations come flying.

    If I was on team wolf I'd be solving the puzzles as a group, then having Irene Adler announce the answer. If she comes up a winner, have her disconnect from the group so she peeks as a NVR. She's have two things pointing to her as clearly villager. Definitely worth it.

    I'm not saying its what happened but its something to keep in mind.

    I'm just trying to point out a possible tactic the wolves may be using to throw us off.


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    We are doing excellently on the auld FFA front.

    Still time, but looks like blind voting with no info gained bar those of us silly enough to go first looks like the course we'll be taking :/


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    That being said, wagonomics will help later in the game, so the voting results themselves are info. I hope anyways.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Nigel WW wrote: »
    Death for whoever has post 245? Immunity from death for post 245??

    Wonder do the wolves know the answers to their abilities or do they need to decipher the clues (here, or in backroom??) in order to know how to use their powers?


    Re: Nigel, this post is off to me. Doesn't make sense to me that wolves wouldn't know their roles. I'm not sure how to explain it but basically I can't see a villager posting this, I can see myself doing it as a wolf anyways. That and excusing himself all day. Just go and post when you can, explaining your absence before you're absent isn't a villager play to me.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭Liam WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    Can you tell us this now? before compiling the complete FFA. Just this one person, along with the wishywash reason.

    The person is Abigail and it's mostly for this post yesterday:
    Abigail WW wrote: »
    for page one you guys & gals are truely on it! Hope y'all keep it up like this throughout and aren't just looking helpful cos I haven't a fecking clue looking at those things.

    I wonder can D.I Lestrade interrogate people or just imprison them

    Culverton Smith seems interesting based on him apparently not being to stop himself from bragging about kills.

    I thought I missed the Jeff Hope episode but after googling he's the cab killer from ep1

    Without tasks im usually at a loose end though, not sure what to look for if Culverton won't be tasked with bragging etc but it is day 0 so ill go back to eating honey for now

    It just comes across to me as really fake friendly. It really stuck out to me yesterday as it's just so manufactured. Like she's been discussing what to say in a backroom to get her posts up and has shambled that together from what everyone in the backroom was saying.

    Wishy washy as hell but that's where I am atm.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    That being said, wagonomics will help later in the game, so the voting results themselves are info. I hope anyways.


    What are wagonomics?


    It still feels really early, I know I just arrived but I feel like most of the game has been D0 fluff, bar the few posts that jumped out at me I haven't got any evil reads. There's more chat about the FFA's in theory than the bloody FFA's that have been posted.



    I'll throw up a list in a few hours when my reads are a bit more solid but I'll probably be ****ing a dart at the "Don't think they're definitely good" pile for my vote.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Clodagh and Wendy, might I be bold enough to request one of ye changes Avatar, I've enough trouble remembering who's who


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    What are wagonomics?


    It still feels really early, I know I just arrived but I feel like most of the game has been D0 fluff, bar the few posts that jumped out at me I haven't got any evil reads. There's more chat about the FFA's in theory than the bloody FFA's that have been posted.



    I'll throw up a list in a few hours when my reads are a bit more solid but I'll probably be ****ing a dart at the "Don't think they're definitely good" pile for my vote.

    Vote analysis of the main wagons each day.

    Who votes on them, who votes off them - who votes away from them.

    Finding patterns through the voting. Admittedly it isn't my strong suit but if no one else does, and I'm still alive, I'll give it a rattle.

    The key though is to have two main wagons that people vote on. It's unlikely to happen today though imo, but it'll still be handy for later in the game.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    Clodagh and Wendy, might I be bold enough to request one of ye changes Avatar, I've enough trouble remembering who's who

    I'd like to point out I bagsied Betty White first. But yeah, I'll change it. Was kinda thinking of doing it anyways


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    I'm adding Conor to my FFA as I find the timing of his exit after Jeff missed his kill suspect. It's largely a gut reaction but I actually trust that more than the other 2 on my FFA so Conor is my vote as things stand.

    If I'm free after putting the kids down later I'll do some post analysis on him as well.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭Holly WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    Vote analysis of the main wagons each day.

    Who votes on them, who votes off them - who votes away from them.

    Finding patterns through the voting. Admittedly it isn't my strong suit but if no one else does, and I'm still alive, I'll give it a rattle.

    The key though is to have two main wagons that people vote on. It's unlikely to happen today though imo, but it'll still be handy for later in the game.


    Would wagonomics not work better with an FFA-type system that gives us a narrow list, full readlists will probably lead to us voting all over the shop, as most will vote their strongest read. That's conflicting interests to me.


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    Would wagonomics not work better with an FFA-type system that gives us a narrow list, full readlists will probably lead to us voting all over the shop, as most will vote their strongest read. That's conflicting interests to me.

    Hey, I didn't say my plan was perfect :(

    It works on MU, they've never even heard of FFA so I can't see why it wouldn't work here?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Ok #ffa1,

    Des: interesting posting style today. Seemed happy to stoke gab and orlas ffa arguement earlier, and seemed against ffa, wants full readlists but then badgers Liam to give his single pick. Not sure if it’s tunnelling or a loud wolf but it seems the world is wrong in everything

    Winifred: odd, a really quick, cagey ffa then scarpered. The ffa is odd because it’s two of the three players shed linked earlier as wolves working together- the third was Mary, who is dead. Says she’ll be back after 6 so may have answers then

    Liam: not really doing anything, just hovering around and being there. Just the right amount of memorable...

    There are a few others who are similar to Liam. Clodagh and Abi stick out as not really saying anything or just speculating into the ether. That’s probably still ahead of a few posters who may as well not be here.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    Hey, I didn't say my plan was perfect :(

    It works on MU, they've never even heard of FFA so I can't see why it wouldn't work here?

    They have public voting over there. Everybody would need to declare who their vote is currently on and when they change it, and we compile a current vote state and keep it updated.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    Still time, but looks like blind voting with no info gained bar those of us silly enough to go first looks like the course we'll be taking :/


    I had a bad feeling this might happen but tbh I am genuinely confused by who I'd even put on a list. Right now 3 different things have taken our attention and none of them seem to be resolved.




    There are 4 people in the hospital. Which is the home of the SK. I'm assuming one of them is going to die but so far nothing has happened and I mean literally nothing as they all say they are not even affected by their hospital stay. Some seemed to suggest that being one of these four gives them a slight village lean but at best I'd say it makes them less likely to be SK but just as likely as anyone else to be bad (a wolf).


    The day 0 tasks were analyzed and those who contributed to them being solved were also given a slight village lean but then almost immediately people floated that it might be a great way to ingratiate themselves with villagers and that Wolves could have had an advantage to complete these, working as a group behind closed doors.


    Now Wendy claims to have survived a pill attack and while on the one hand that would be good news if true there is also nothing to back up this claim, and the pill story (and even the names she gave for the pills) which could be as suggested an obvious story to concoct (could even be a true lie by a wolf) to get inside a village core. Especially with an Adler on the loose that is dangerous.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Holly WW wrote: »
    Would wagonomics not work better with an FFA-type system that gives us a narrow list, full readlists will probably lead to us voting all over the shop, as most will vote their strongest read. That's conflicting interests to me.

    Anyways, as has been pointed out to me full readslists are extended FFAs essentially, so you collate as normal if you wish then vote for the top 2/3.

    Reads lists are more trying to get more information out of players.

    Wolves talking about the whole list of alive players as opposed to three hand picked ones means they have to talk about their team-mates. I don't see any downside to that.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    Wagonomics, FFA, vote declarations, village read list etc are all good with me. I fear it's getting a bit late to get everyone on board for day 1 but the more info we pump out the more than can be analysised later and catch wolves


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭Desmond WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »
    Ok #ffa1,

    Des: interesting posting style today. Seemed happy to stoke gab and orlas ffa arguement earlier, and seemed against ffa, wants full readlists but then badgers Liam to give his single pick. Not sure if it’s tunnelling or a loud wolf but it seems the world is wrong in everything

    Winifred: odd, a really quick, cagey ffa then scarpered. The ffa is odd because it’s two of the three players shed linked earlier as wolves working together- the third was Mary, who is dead. Says she’ll be back after 6 so may have answers then

    Liam: not really doing anything, just hovering around and being there. Just the right amount of memorable...

    There are a few others who are similar to Liam. Clodagh and Abi stick out as not really saying anything or just speculating into the ether. That’s probably still ahead of a few posters who may as well not be here.

    How did I badger Liam?

    Liam, do you feel I badgered you?

    Buggeration of the free trader!


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Orla WW wrote:
    Wolves talking about the whole list of alive players as opposed to three hand picked ones means they have to talk about their team-mates. I don't see any downside to that.


    If you can get them to do it.

    And also.....most of your reads were blank. So you could very easily have sideskipped talking about your teammates, if you are furry.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Desmond WW wrote: »
    They have public voting over there. Everybody would need to declare who their vote is currently on and when they change it, and we compile a current vote state and keep it updated.

    :cool: That's a fair point.

    :( My plan is in tatters.


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Tegan WW


    Well in response to our archangel Gabriel, to be fair to he(or she) I have been fairly on the fence thus far.



    I’m trying to give everyone a fair crack before judging them too harshly and right now Im not sure how to read any players in a solid manner.



    Take Derry for example, on one hand Derry seemed to be on the money with the clues, and was one of the first (if not the first) to come out with his hospitalisation reveal. To me that’s a nice village lean.



    But on the other hand, players in this game are improving and wolves have to adapt to survive. Who’s to say Derry isn’t a wolf who is doing a fine job at looking good.



    But its not just Derry, there’s others too.



    Clodagh, made a post about Wendy, implying she had help writing a previous post. Now is that a villager rustling tress or a wolf throwing shade.



    Wini – Her posts this morning seem too aggressive to be a wolf, but like Orla, am I being caught out her by a brazen wolf. I don’t know. Her absence after this morning's posts has struck me in a negative way.



    Orla, posting all over the shop, from gifs, to aggressive and defensive come backs. Usually Id say that’s too crazy for a wolf to play on day 1, but on the other is saying maybe a wolf could be capable of playing in such a manner to avoid suspicion despite the risk at drawing attention to herself. Her Read list is very weak, which is fair since mine is too, but why go to the bother of it if its so weak. My gut says she’s good but I’ve been fooled before.



    All play and any play can be seen as villager play or a wolf play. Its all subjective.



    So maybe I have been on the fence a bit, but these are my choices for my FFA



    #FFA1

    1.Clodagh

    2.Orla

    3. Winifred


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