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Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm



    You seem to have a strong hatred for the show (or maybe just Joe) and just want to be able to blame them for something. Again. I'm not sure what that something is.

    Untrue, I praise the show where I think it is good and point out where I think they let themselves down.
    You can read my past posts if you wish, there was some decent interviews in the recent past by Joe.
    OTB did not cover themselves in glory here. If another radio station or media outlet were as soft on an important GAA issue (a time of the year where womens GAA is at it's zenith) they would be called out.
    Particaulary as they seemed to have Cora Stanton on OTB regulary 'talking' about the Ladies Mayo GAA issue.

    But for some reason (as usual) you cannot or fail to see, anything wrong with it.
    If a person were to treat your posts on OTB as a review every interview is fantastic, every piece of content is superb, and it is the best show ever....
    You have created a litany of excuses for OTB on this one.
    That tells it's own story.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Is there a podcast of the Cora interview on OTB, I can't find it? Thanks

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,499 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    But for some reason (as usual) you cannot or fail to see, anything wrong with it.
    If a person were to treat your posts on OTB as a review every interview is fantastic, every piece of content is superb, and it is the best show ever....
    You have created a litany of excuses for OTB on this one.
    That tells it's own story.

    I'm glad that my posts are so remarkable that you pay particular attention to them.

    Just a heads up for you, I comment on what I enjoy. I don't post on that which disinterests me (or which I didn't like) but when I hear an interview I don't enjoy, I don't automatically assume it was because the interviewer or show was sh*t. And I do try to challenge posters who call something sh*t, not because the show is always wonderful or that said posters is not entitled to hold their own opinion but in each instance which I comment on, I find the negative view doesn't hold water.

    I have created no excuses on this not to mind a litany. Night night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭monstermag


    I suspect there's a strongly worded letter sitting on someone's table in Mayo. How else could one explain the sudden change of story. To go from saying there was player welfare issues to then stating there wasn't is quite extraordinary. That should be like a red rag to a bull for any journalist worth it's salt. OTB have handled the whole story very badly. Don't forget these are the same lads that were very critical of David Walsh for some positive coverage ofTeam Sky, but they themselves can't even grill Cora Staunton and get to the bottom of a relatively minor issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    As for Parkinson he might not be polished but he asks the questions, he kept firing questions at the Mayo manager asking him what the situation was. In fairness to Parkinson he managed to draw a lot of info out of him. That Peter Leahy was an old school manager etc, interactions with players, past events. Actual answers, a story, not vague comments. Also a few weeks ago, Parkinson said he considered getting Cora Staunton on the show, but he said he decided against it because she does not seem to want to answer any real questions, so there is no point.


    While he may not be everybody's cup of tea, I think Wooly is one of the best GAA reporters/commentators out there. His podcast is excellent, with a nice mix of entertainment, analysis, and no PC bull****. Gets decent guests from time to time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    While he may not be everybody's cup of tea, I think Wooly is one of the best GAA reporters/commentators out there. His podcast is excellent, with a nice mix of entertainment, analysis, and no PC bull****. Gets decent guests from time to time.

    Spot on. He has a good way with the guests, gets them relaxed and draws them out.
    Plus he has the pull to be able to get interesting guests on you would not normally hear.
    Then he is able to have an affinity with the players because he played.
    I am a regular listener to it, it has virtually replaced OTB for me, bar if I flick through the stations and put on Newstalk in the car.
    But then again, I am more of a GAA person. And I would have very little interest in the minutiae of Rugby with the likes of Matt Williams for example. I would turn that off.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    While he may not be everybody's cup of tea, I think Wooly is one of the best GAA reporters/commentators out there.


    Wooly is funny and speaks his mind. As I've said many times before, he was sorely missed when he left, as he was the only one that wasn't afraid to say something controversial.

    I'm sick to death of Kevin Kilbane, who was brought in when Woolly left. And this Mother Theresa routine of his, giving out what what footballer's say in dressing rooms while pretending he has never done or heard similar, getting on his parapit about David Haye (who was being racially abused) calling the liverpool fans "retards". Haye was wrong to say what he did, but we didn't need all Kilbane's virtue signalling. I think Kilbane should maybe abandon his role in getting your men addicted to gambling with free bets before he lectures the rest of us.

    (This picture below is shown before the videos on OTBAM)



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    I wonder what all the Kilbane fanboys think of the above? Weren't OTB and Declan Lynch telling us all how dangerous the free bets were before!! They have done more U-turns than Ray D'Arcy at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,499 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    And this Mother Theresa routine of his, giving out what what footballer's say in dressing rooms while pretending he has never done or heard similar, getting on his parapit about David Haye (who was being racially abused) calling the liverpool fans "retards". Haye was wrong to say what he did, but we didn't need all Kilbane's virtue signalling. I think Kilbane should maybe abandon his role in getting your men addicted to gambling with free bets before he lectures the rest of us.

    A - Kevin has a daughter who has downs syndrome and understandably is very sensitive to the use of the word.

    B - It's somewhat confusing how several can get so upset about OTB being sponsored by bookies while simultaneously saying they need to stop their virtue signalling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,954 ✭✭✭Raoul


    A - Kevin has a daughter who has downs syndrome and understandably is very sensitive to the use of the word.

    B - It's somewhat confusing how several can get so upset about OTB being sponsored by bookies while simultaneously saying they need to stop their virtue signalling.

    I think it is the fact they are speaking out of both sides of their mouths. If they weren't so holier than thou people would cut them a bit of slack over all the ads but they have had podcasts discussing the issues of gambling advertising and how bad it is. Now they are constantly shoving it down our throats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,499 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Raoul wrote: »
    I think it is the fact they are speaking out of both sides of their mouths. If they weren't so holier than thou people would cut them a bit of slack over all the ads but they have had podcasts discussing the issues of gambling advertising and how bad it is. Now they are constantly shoving it down our throats.

    I understand that. As I said I find it interesting that some call them on it by doing the exact same thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    I understand that. As I said I find it interesting that some call them on it by doing the exact same thing.


    I'd like to respond to you but I'm busy watching The Friday Football Betting Show :pac:






    When the OTB guys sell their souls they don't do it in half measures.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 670 ✭✭✭sightband


    I'd like to respond to you but I'm busy watching The Friday Football Betting Show :pac:






    When the OTB guys sell their souls they don't do it in half measures.

    f*ck, look at those gnashers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    Just wondering guys, I know this question was asked above but did Joe Molloy or anybody on OTB comment on the interview Leahy? Surely they should give at least an apology to the Mayo Ladies management team?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,499 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Just wondering guys, I know this question was asked above but did Joe Molloy or anybody on OTB comment on the interview Leahy? Surely they should give at least an apology to the Mayo Ladies management team?

    is the issue still not resolved?

    It's not categorically proven yet that the claims were unfounded is it? Maybe it has been but I understand that it is still a case of both sides sticking to their argument.

    Even if the girls claims were unfounded, I don't see how OTB owe the management team an apology. Has Leahy or anyone else called for one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    is the issue still not resolved?

    It's not categorically proven yet that the claims were unfounded is it? Maybe it has been but I understand that it is still a case of both sides sticking to their argument.

    Even if the girls claims were unfounded, I don't see how OTB owe the management team an apology. Has Leahy or anyone else called for one?

    I am surprised they havent referenced it, even to say "we still back Cora, we still dont know what happened......"

    If there is more to it I would have expected a riposte to be in the works (and maybe that is what they are waiting for)

    OTB vs the GAA Hour :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,499 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    OTB vs the GAA Hour :cool:

    I think they go out of their way to not reference Wooly too much. Nor the Second Captains show either even though at times its obvious that they are referring to a topic from the other shows.
    The other shows largely treat them in the same way.

    It will be interesting if each side of the incident doubles down then you'd imagine they will appear on each of their respective shows as time goes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    I think they go out of their way to not reference Wooly too much. Nor the Second Captains show either even though at times its obvious that they are referring to a topic from the other shows.
    The other shows largely treat them in the same way.

    It will be interesting if each side of the incident doubles down then you'd imagine they will appear on each of their respective shows as time goes on.

    Wooly mentioned the OTB interview multiple times on Thursdays show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭GeordieRebel


    I think they go out of their way to not reference Wooly too much. Nor the Second Captains show either even though at times its obvious that they are referring to a topic from the other shows.
    The other shows largely treat them in the same way.

    It will be interesting if each side of the incident doubles down then you'd imagine they will appear on each of their respective shows as time goes on.

    In fairness the Second Captains lads are pretty good for referencing OTB and Wooly when material comes from them. It sticks out because of the shared history.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,207 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Just wondering guys, I know this question was asked above but did Joe Molloy or anybody on OTB comment on the interview Leahy? Surely they should give at least an apology to the Mayo Ladies management team?

    Parkinson just tweeted that they rang Leahy to apologise to him. Looks like their Team Cora stance blew up in their face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    Hah, did they really think that they would get away with brushing it under the carpet like that! It's no good to Peter Leahy's reputation for them to privately apologise and let the audience believe the narrative that they broadcast.

    From Woolly's Twitter:
    So @offtheballam have rang Peter Leahy and apologised. However on air they have completely ignored Peter defending himself on @thegaahour from the serious allegations made on their show. Is it because they don’t want to credit me for it? Surely they’re not that petty


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Wish Wooly was still on OTB.

    He was a huge loss to the show imo. The only 'personality' they had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭EAFC_rdfl


    All the focus is on Joe Molloy but Ger Gilroy and his nodding dog Eoin were every bit as bad, they gave Cora an easy pass too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Wish Wooly was still on OTB.

    He was a huge loss to the show imo. The only 'personality' they had.
    He's better off without them. He has the ideal platform now, a podcast which doesn't have to adhere to the agenda of Ger Gilroy. If he was still on OTB, he would be forced to "toe the line" - maybe that's why he left..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    I'm glad he left them because we have the GAA hour now. One of my essential listens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    Any update on the Mayo soap opera? Duckie15 has been awful quiet on the twitter machine over the last few days. Has she responded at all to what Peter Leahy said or has there been any coverage of this in the media at all?

    Seems like nobody in the main stream media wants to recognise that the emperor has no clothes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    Follow them on Facebook and I am annoyed at those stupid Boylesports ads offering teaser odds to get people to join. Fair enough they have to pay the bills but I see they also have literally a section of the show devoted to gambling odds and have a lad on from Boylesports. Surely after the many many sports stars that have come out about their gambling addictions and how prevalent it is that this is a bad idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    They're trying to harang people now to go to the Ladies football final.

    They pad the stadium with free tickets, every club in the country can apply. A busload of young wans went up to the camoige last Sundayfrom my club. Nobody pays and it ends up costing the GAA to open Croker.


    They've their own organisation. Play the fckkng thing in Birr or somewhere . Stop bleeding the GAA.


  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    They've their own organisation. Play the fckkng thing in Birr or somewhere . Stop bleeding the GAA.
    That's a bit academic now, with the One Club policy.

    My local club, like many others, is a combination club: the jerseys have both the camogie and gaa crests, and everything, including finances, are managed under a single board.

    Since when was the GAA purely a finance-driven organisation, anyway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    That's a bit academic now, with the One Club policy.

    My local club, like many others, is a combination club: the jerseys have both the camogie and gaa crests, and everything, including finances, are managed under a single board.

    Since when was the GAA purely a finance-driven organisation, anyway?

    Some time in the 2000's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Abel Ruiz


    Wish Wooly was still on OTB.

    He was a huge loss to the show imo. The only 'personality' they had.

    As bad/annoying as most of the offtheball team are, wooly was nothing special either. He was always trying to be the funny man, and failing in my opinion. And constantly acting stupid and would play ignorant on football and rugby.

    He was on form when gaa was the topic. And he is still proving to be great.
    But he proved how bad he is (aside of gaa) when he interviewed dunphy a couple of years ago, it was so cringe. He just wanted dunphy to slag players and go through all his one liners. Trying to get easy laughs for the crowd, but again, he is not funny.


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