Serena's meltdown

TCM · 10-09-2018 07:37AM

DrWu wrote:

About halfway through her tantrum you can see it dawning on her that she has just made a prize a-hole out of herself and the sexism card comes out. Pathetic.

DrWu wrote:

When she does get her 24th title she can stick it where the sun doesn't shine. Not for the made-up sexism nonsense. For doing that to Osaka. I once saw a young musician humiliated on stage by his hero. It knocked the stuffing out of him for years. Appalling behaviour from Williams, no matter how justified people feel she was.

Well put, no doubt she's a great tennis player but a horrible idiot. Feminist my behind. A selfish indolent gob.

valoren · 10-09-2018 08:52AM

cournioni wrote: »

Serena is clearly a horrible bully. Well done to Osaka, no one should overshadow what she has just achieved.

That's the thing with such bullies. They typically exploit a platform, in this case sexism to justify their bullying. This was nothing more than a narcissistic rage from an egotistical, self absorbed diva athlete who was getting her arse forehanded to her by the better player and who was having her 'achievement unlocked' moment denied from her and thus the toys came out of the pram.

Williams, is the worst kind of bully, those who exploit legitimate causes, who latch onto them whenever their bull**** is called out and they are to be held accountable.

Her 'platform' kicked in after she'd gone and made a complete fool of herself. WTF does having a daughter have to do with the rules of Tennis? This is the manipulative bent to it. Instead of us watching a bully doing what a bully does, we're now supposed to see a 'mama bear' defending her honor for her daughter's sake and her taking a stand for women's rights in the game! :rolleyes:

And the rub is that you'd be deemed a monster for having a go at such an upstanding individual, you'd be deemed to be attacking these worthy, legitimate causes. Many have been duped into thinking she is taking a stand here, the digital pitchforks of the twitter mob would be ready and waiting if you had the temerity to call this as it is. The WTA statement enables Williams' manipulative framing of her behavior completely.

Williams' problem is that we see this behavior from her on a constant basis, it's certainly not a one off, always when she is losing a match and we see through the facade completely and recognize that she is not some social justice warrior at all, we see her for who she really is which is an asshole who is playing victim to deflect from her own horrible behavior and attitude.

10-09-2018 08:55AM

US Open 2018: Serena Williams' claims of sexism backed by WTA

Serena Williams' claims of sexism in the US Open final have been backed by the governing body of women's tennis.

WTA chief executive Steve Simon said the umpire showed Williams a different level of tolerance of Saturday's outbursts than if she had been a man.

She got a code violation for coaching, a penalty point for racquet abuse and a game penalty for calling the umpire a "thief" in the loss to Naomi Osaka.

Pretty interesting to get fined $17,000, have your coach admit to breaking the rules, be a complete and utter cúnt to the umpire, ruin your opponent's big victory, use the sexism card, and get defended for it by the female organisation.

This is one of the easier stories of the year to gauge just how retarded someone is.

Bob Harris · 10-09-2018 09:04AM

It's a little worrying for society when you see such flagrantly reprehensible behaviour being defended and quite possibly with time condoned.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 10-09-2018 09:24AM

I don’t know enough about tennis to know whether the sanctions against Williams were fair. But even if they weren’t, isn’t part of being a sportsperson accepting that sometimes decisions go against you? I’m sure every sportsperson can point to decisions that they thought were unfair but they just had to get on with it. Serena Williams is an ego. She loooves herself. And she ruined Ms. Osaka’s big moment. So sad to see that girl in tears.

Widdensushi · 10-09-2018 09:27AM

Was she playing against a man?I presume so if the decision was sexist.

Bob Harris · 10-09-2018 09:40AM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Was she playing against a man?I presume so if the decision was sexist.

She was playing against all the men it seems.

Tombo2001 · 10-09-2018 09:42AM

Am absolutely shocked being honest......and I know I shouldnt be shocked, its social media......but the comments on Irish websites about this - nearly all from men, nearly all from people who rarely watch tennis and certainly didnt stay up late to watch this game.....

calling her a bXXXh, a Cxxt (a number of times I saw this used in the comments section of the42.ie, and just four posts up from me by chap who also brings 'retarded' into it......), putting her down for talking about motherhood, writing in faux african american cant......

Its really incredible the hate that has been shown for Serena Williams on Irish social media and it does make me wonder about the people who live here.

What the hell is going on in your heads.

Carpentry · 10-09-2018 09:44AM

https://twitter.com/i/status/1039047637666807808

alan partridge aha · 10-09-2018 09:53AM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Am absolutely shocked being honest......and I know I shouldnt be shocked, its social media......but the comments on Irish websites about this - nearly all from men, nearly all from people who rarely watch tennis and certainly didnt stay up late to watch this game.....

calling her a bXXXh, a Cxxt (a number of times I saw this used in the comments section of the42.ie, and just four posts up from me by chap who also brings 'retarded' into it......), putting her down for talking about motherhood, writing in faux african american cant......

Its really incredible the hate that has been shown for Serena Williams on Irish social media and it does make me wonder about the people who live here.

What the hell is going on in your heads.

People shouldn't use those words I will agree, however do you think she was bang out of order in that match?

10-09-2018 09:55AM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Am absolutely shocked being honest......and I know I shouldnt be shocked, its social media......but the comments on Irish websites about this - nearly all from men, nearly all from people who rarely watch tennis and certainly didnt stay up late to watch this game.....

calling her a bXXXh, a Cxxt (a number of times I saw this used in the comments section of the42.ie, and just four posts up from me by chap who also brings 'retarded' into it......), putting her down for talking about motherhood, writing in faux african american cant......

Its really incredible the hate that has been shown for Serena Williams on Irish social media and it does make me wonder about the people who live here.

What the hell is going on in your heads.

Common sense.

I absolutely love this nonsense now that tennis is some small niche sport as way to attack people for caring. As if no one would have ever known only it's a woman behaving badly or something.

Everyone and their dog knows who she is. She's a complete and utter piece of sh for doing what she did. You have to have an IQ of 70 to not see it, or to question why people think it.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 10-09-2018 09:58AM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Am absolutely shocked being honest......and I know I shouldnt be shocked, its social media......but the comments on Irish websites about this - nearly all from men, nearly all from people who rarely watch tennis and certainly didnt stay up late to watch this game.....

calling her a bXXXh, a Cxxt (a number of times I saw this used in the comments section of the42.ie, and just four posts up from me by chap who also brings 'retarded' into it......), putting her down for talking about motherhood, writing in faux african american cant......

Its really incredible the hate that has been shown for Serena Williams on Irish social media and it does make me wonder about the people who live here.

What the hell is going on in your heads.

Tbh, I’m seeing her get much more sympathy than she deserves on social media generally. I don’t know how much is Irish or international.

10-09-2018 10:01AM

Federer would get far worse, cause no one would be defending him.

WinnyThePoo · 10-09-2018 10:07AM

I've been watching tennis my whole life. Her behaviour on court was absurd. Nonsensical. Her claims of sexism are completely false. She had two court warnings for the coaching (the coach admitted it), smashing a racket(I've never seen a male or female player not get a warning for that).

So she hadn't actually been deducted points at this stage. Then to start a verbal tirade against the umpire (which she has history of doing). Been deducted the point, should have been the cope on to try and concentrate on the next point. She didn't.

Tennis players and coaches will tell you no matter the situation get the head down and play the next point likes it's your first.

The fact the wta have rowed in behind her is baffling. Sets a bad precedent.

She was being beaten by the better player on the day. It happens.

BarryD2 · 10-09-2018 10:14AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Federer would get far worse, cause no one would be defending him.

Federer is too classy & ruthless for that kind of nonsense.

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

She was being beaten by the better player on the day. It happens.

And then disgracefully ruined her younger opponent's first grand slam win. Disgusting carry on from an elder player with many titles.

Both she and Federer for different reasons would do the game no harm at all if they quietly retired and let a new generation get on with it.

marieholmfan · 10-09-2018 10:21AM

Time for a forensic analysis of all her former games to look for evidence of coaching. If it exists she must be stripped of all prize money and places.

marieholmfan · 10-09-2018 10:22AM

Deleted User wrote: »

WTA chief executive Steve Simon said the umpire showed Williams a different level of tolerance of Saturday's outbursts than if she had been a man.

WHOA why is the WTACEO a man?

Niles Crane · 10-09-2018 10:23AM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Am absolutely shocked being honest......and I know I shouldnt be shocked, its social media......but the comments on Irish websites about this - nearly all from men, nearly all from people who rarely watch tennis and certainly didnt stay up late to watch this game.....

calling her a bXXXh, a Cxxt (a number of times I saw this used in the comments section of the42.ie, and just four posts up from me by chap who also brings 'retarded' into it......), putting her down for talking about motherhood, writing in faux african american cant......

Its really incredible the hate that has been shown for Serena Williams on Irish social media and it does make me wonder about the people who live here.

What the hell is going on in your heads.

Her talking about motherhood and the media coverage of it has been obnoxious.The way her and the American media have been going on about it you'd think she was the only woman to ever have a child and you'd think she was a proper working mother with real life problems to deal with.

Her experience of motherhood is miles away from the reality most mothers face yet nobody in mainstream media dares point this out.

This match wasn't on late, it started at 9:30 and was finshed by about 11 so it wouldn't have been that difficult to stay up and watch it.

Tennis is one of the world's biggest sports and she's one of the world biggest sports stars so it's hardly surpriseing people were taking about it particularly when they could watch highlights of what happpened on the internet.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-09-2018 10:23AM

It’s a tribute to American supremacy that some people don’t see a boorish yank here but an oppressed black woman

Jerichoholic · 10-09-2018 10:26AM

She's like John McEnroe. If he was a big sore loser baby.

The Bishop Basher · 10-09-2018 10:28AM

Jerichoholic wrote: »

She's like John McEnroe. If he was a big sore loser baby.

He was entertaining. She’s just annoying.

meeeeh · 10-09-2018 10:33AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Everyone and their dog knows who she is. She's a complete and utter piece of sh for doing what she did. You have to have an IQ of 70 to not see it, or to question why people think it.

I think Serena Williams was wrong and I roll my eyes when celebrities start going on about motherhood, fighting for women and so on.

But she is definitely not an utter piece of sh for having a bit of a meltdown and an argument with an umpire. There are other tennis stars who did worse, some footballers or Vettel highly entertaining message to Charlie Whiting also come to mind.

In fact what you call her is a lot worse than anything Serena Williams said, so what are you then if she is a piece of sh...

rovertom · 10-09-2018 10:35AM

Jerichoholic wrote: »

She's like John McEnroe. If he was a big sore loser baby.

Ya McEnroe was expected to do it. It was pure entertainment. He knew that. The crowd knew that and the official expected it also. Certainly in his later years that I saw him play, that was the case.
It's not comparable in any way to what Williams has done. She took it too far when on court and continued with it off the court. Career ending stuff really.

gimli2112 · 10-09-2018 10:36AM

Rennaws wrote: »

He was entertaining. She’s just annoying.

Was watching some of his outbursts the other day and remembered just how cringy they were. He was very unpopular, I've come to like him but at the time I really didn't. There's one from the early 80s in Sweden, where he called the umpire a jerk, got an immediate point deduction, when the game was over he destroyed his rest station and was immediately docked a game. He thought he'd been disqualified.

Certainly wasn't treated more leniently than SW

10-09-2018 10:39AM

meeeeh wrote: »

In fact what you call her is a lot worse than anything Serena Williams said, so what are you then if she is a piece of sh...

Lol that is moronic.

The J Stands for Jay · 10-09-2018 10:43AM

I'm just going to dump and run:

Since women tennis players are paid more than men (same pay, less play), it seems equitable that they are held to a higher standard.

mattser · 10-09-2018 10:58AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Lol that is moronic.

No it's not. It's perfect sense. Go for a brisk walk and release your anger.

WinnyThePoo · 10-09-2018 10:59AM

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

I've been watching tennis my whole life. Her behaviour on court was absurd. Nonsensical. Her claims of sexism are completely false. She had two court warnings for the coaching (the coach admitted it), smashing a racket(I've never seen a male or female player not get a warning for that).

So she hadn't actually been deducted points at this stage. Then to start a verbal tirade against the umpire (which she has history of doing). Been deducted the point, should have been the cope on to try and concentrate on the next point. She didn't.

Tennis players and coaches will tell you no matter the situation get the head down and play the next point likes it's your first.

The fact the wta have rowed in behind her is baffling. Sets a bad precedent.

She was being beaten by the better player on the day. It happens.

My bad, she got the point deducted after smashing her racket. Still doesn't change , that her behavior and point and game deducted was self inflicted.

Carpentry · 10-09-2018 11:05AM

US opinion is just as split as boards

10-09-2018 11:06AM

mattser wrote: »

No it's not. It's perfect sense. Go for a brisk walk and release your anger.

I'm perfectly calm. And no, it doesn't make any sense, never mind even perfect sense.

Me calling Serena Williams a piece of shlt does not automatically make me worse than her because I use such foul language. Who did I hurt sitting here? Did I ruin the highlight of a sportswoman's career by pointing out the blindingly obvious?

Argue that I'm worse than her. I'm all ears to this fantasy logic.

Serena's meltdown

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