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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    seligehgit wrote:
    I'd imagine we'll see on a Sunday Game near you into the future.


    SKY should have an opening too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    seligehgit wrote: »
    I've heard James Horan is to be appointed soon,no word on the backroom team.

    Any truth in McStay making the switch from the Rossies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭muddle84


    I always enjoyed his analysis on the Sunday Game so Roscommon's loss is the RTE's gain. 
    Rochford to Roscommon?? 26-January in McHale park would be interesting then!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    In a statement released in the immediate aftermath of McStay's announcement,he all but ruled out the prospect that his destination was Mayo.
    Far from looking at any prospective roles,McStay confirmed that his decision to leave Roscommon coincided with a decision to leave inter county management altogether.

    So, after much consideration I have decided not to take up the Chairman’s invitation.I’ve done three years,every one of them challenging and sometimes exhausting.In reviewing my time in charge I have to acknowledge the inordinate amount of time I spent dealing with financial and facility issues,personnel issues,media issues and the various contentious and controversial events that kept arising over those seasons.
    Success is what we all crave but we must understand our reality too.While Roscommon is a proud football county,it is a small county with a limited playing pool and deficits in resources and facilities.The budget required to finance success at the highest level demands year round attention.Facilities,Catering,Kit & Equipment,Professional expertise and,especially,Travel costs are major financial drainers and they are placing a massive burden on voluntary officers that is often overwhelming.
    These are the significant challenges the smaller GAA counties face.If the GAA is committed to ensuring all counties are,at a minimum,competitive,then they must be supported financially in a way that reflects the demands and the need for fairness,equity and solidarity.
    I am privileged to say the Roscommon GAA family entrusted their team to me for three years.We had our share of special days,mostly grand days and of course, some very tough days.But overall,on reflection,these have been three of the greatest years of my life. Leaving the safety of the pundits chair for the passion and glory of the dressing room and football field is a decision I’ll never regret.However,today marks my retirement from senior inter county football management.
    I look forward to a less stressful period now,concentrating more on work and family life and to supporting Roscommon and Mayo teams in 2019 and beyond.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    martyos121 wrote: »
    Oh I like the sound of Horan and Solan. I’m a little bit sad for Westport if Horan leaves so quickly as they look to have some big talents coming through, but it’s not my local club so not too sad. :D

    Good luck to whoever gets it, I’ve respect for any manager willing to tolerate that county board.

    Yeah Westport have a serious group of 18-21 year olds in the club right now. A couple more years under Horan would have benefited them hugely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    muddle84 wrote: »
    I always enjoyed his analysis on the Sunday Game so Roscommon's loss is the RTE's gain. 
    Rochford to Roscommon?? 26-January in McHale park would be interesting then!!!

    I'd love to see him back on TSG. He's one if the few older breed of pundits that are actually worth a damm. Would be great to have him back on co commentary duty too, especially if it means hearing less of Dessie bloody Dolan. McStay & Daragh Moloney did commentary of that utterly mad AI semifinal between Dublin & Kerry back in 2013 & they were brilliant. Thought the pair of them were going to have a heart attack live on air. It was deadly. (No pun intended.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,490 ✭✭✭✭km79


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    I'd love to see him back on TSG. He's one if the few older breed of pundits that are actually worth a damm. Would be great to have him back on co commentary duty too, especially if it means hearing less of Dessie bloody Dolan. McStay & Daragh Moloney did commentary of that utterly mad AI semifinal between Dublin & Kerry back in 2013 & they were brilliant. I thought the pair of them were going to have a heart attack live on air. It was deadly. (No pun intended.)

    And everyone has much more respect for him than Brolly and co as well as he actually put his money where his mouth was and had a go at intercounty management
    I expect to see him on Sky........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    To be fair , Dessie wasn’t the greatest commentator or analyst . Seemed to go with everyone’s flow rather than have his own opinion .
    Mcstay and Kieran whelan are good . The


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,853 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Classy statement from McStay to be fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,907 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    martyos121 wrote: »
    Oh I like the sound of Horan and Solan. I’m a little bit sad for Westport if Horan leaves so quickly as they look to have some big talents coming through, but it’s not my local club so not too sad. :D

    Wouldn't be surprised if Horan took the gig for just a year, one last heave with the current crew...doubt he'd be up for a big rebuilding job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭legendary.xix


    Is McStay in line for the Mayo position?


  • Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    martyos121 wrote: »
    Oh I like the sound of Horan and Solan. I’m a little bit sad for Westport if Horan leaves so quickly as they look to have some big talents coming through, but it’s not my local club so not too sad. :D

    Good luck to whoever gets it, I’ve respect for any manager willing to tolerate that county board.

    It's my local club so I would be utterly despondent if he does leave. Westport have yet to win a senior county title so if JH stayed and achieved this it would a serious addition to his CV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,907 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Is McStay in line for the Mayo position?

    Well he claims to be retired from senior inter county football management.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Classy statement from McStay to be fair.

    Very much so, he got a rough ride up there from some of the players and fans. He brought them on without doubt.

    Best of luck to him whatever he does.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    It's my local club so I would be utterly despondent if he does leave. Westport have yet to win a senior county title so if JH stayed and achieved this it would a serious addition to his CV.

    He doesn't have to fully leave though, surely? The club isn't going to get going really until Mayo are knocked out so he can join up full time then again, and do bits and pieces during the year

    All hypothetically of course, all depends on his personal circumstances, but I wouldn't fully discount him staying on in some form (provided he gets the Mayo job)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,947 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Classy statement from McStay to be fair.

    Was he not sacked?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    BENDYBINN wrote:
    Was he not sacked?


    No. Resigned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,367 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Was he not sacked?


    As they are not officially paid GAA managers never really get "sacked" anyway.

    They usually just step down or the county board thank them for their service and do not nominate them for further years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭muddle84


    jr86 wrote: »
    It's my local club so I would be utterly despondent if he does leave. Westport have yet to win a senior county title so if JH stayed and achieved this it would a serious addition to his CV.

    He doesn't have to fully leave though, surely? The club isn't going to get going really until Mayo are knocked out so he can join up full time then again, and do bits and pieces during the year

    All hypothetically of course, all depends on his personal circumstances, but I wouldn't fully discount him staying on in some form (provided he gets the Mayo job)
    Similar situation to when Rochford toke over. He was with Corofin right up until the Connacht final in November before he swapped over to Mayo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,367 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    muddle84 wrote: »
    Similar situation to when Rochford toke over. He was with Corofin right up until the Connacht final in November before he swapped over to Mayo.

    I think Horan finished out his tenure with Ballintubber as well in 2010.

    He was named Mayo manager in early October and won the senior title a few weeks later, lost early in Connacht after that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭boosabum


    Big ask for westport to win the county championship so his tenure might be over in a matter of weeks realistically. I guess he needs to be putting his backroom team together though - assuming he is the heir apparent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,490 ✭✭✭✭km79


    boosabum wrote: »
    Big ask for westport to win the county championship so his tenure might be over in a matter of weeks realistically. I guess he needs to be putting his backroom team together though - assuming he is the heir apparent

    And this will be interesting as a major part of the success of his first tenure was the quality of his backroom team the majority of whom have now departed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    boosabum wrote: »
    Big ask for westport to win the county championship so his tenure might be over in a matter of weeks realistically. I guess he needs to be putting his backroom team together though - assuming he is the heir apparent


    Not unrealistic to expect that Westport might win a county title over the course of his tenure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Not unrealistic to expect that Westport might win a county title over the course of his tenure?

    They've little or no chance of winning a county title this year IMO and it'll likely take them 2 or 3 years to catch Castlebar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,073 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Not unrealistic to expect that Westport might win a county title over the course of his tenure?

    The cute move would be to leave and go back in 2-3 years imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    PARlance wrote: »
    The cute move would be to leave and go back in 2-3 years imo.

    Couldn't agree more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Just heard Cora on of the ball. She must've said "it wasn't a coup" 6 or 7 times. Yeah Cora, nobody believes you....

    So she reckons it's a safety issue, they didn't feel safe. Can open, worms everywhere!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    RedDevil55 wrote: »
    They've little or no chance of winning a county title this year IMO and it'll likely take them 2 or 3 years to catch Castlebar.

    If even then.

    Castlebar have been dominant throughout this decade and have a steady conveyor belt of talent still coming through, so ain't going away anytime soon you'd imagine.

    People tend to get excited about new, young teams but some guys tend to play their best football at 20/21 years of age before life gets in the way. There's also the possibility of emigration after college and all that.

    It'd be a big ask for a club like Westport to win a county title, they never have before as far as I'm aware


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,651 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    PARlance wrote: »
    The cute move would be to leave and go back in 2-3 years imo.


    If Westport make good progress over those 2-3 years it might not be that easy to get back.
    Cute move would be to win a senior county with Westport and have the county board begging him to take over due to the backing he would have from supporters, which would also leave him with a blank cheque where the board was concerned.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    Just heard Cora on of the ball. She must've said "it wasn't a coup" 6 or 7 times. Yeah Cora, nobody believes you....

    So she reckons it's a safety issue, they didn't feel safe. Can open, worms everywhere!!!




    Strange interview. She was very defiant in what she was saying. Yet, somehow, she didnt really come across as that believable.

    I dont know the full story, nor do I follow ladies football. But kicking the club out did seem a bit heavy handed. And she has a point in that players who had nothing to do with the county are being punished.


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