GAA Infastructure

Also I would assume that because there will be dressing rooms in the new stand, the clubhouse may be knocked down to make the terrace longer, which would be welcome.

Nice plans, pity Clare GAA couldn't do the same when they redeveloped their stand.

CK22 wrote: »

http://kildaregaa.ie/update-st-conleths-park-re-development

Kildare have got permission to develop the stand at Conleths Park. Nice little stand I have to say, no pillars in the way, a VIP section. Capacity will rise to 15,000 following completion. Finally a stadium that makes sense in terms of size and facilities. Further development of terraces expected in coming years.

Hopefully the campaign to keep clones will be successful. Much better town and Craic for games than where casement is

Bonniedog wrote: »

Local politicians also had a hand in this as they envisaged a re-developed Casement as a prestige project for the city. There will be nothing to re-develop soon.

Good. There shouldn't be a penny put in to this project until a realistic stadium proposition is put in place. 15,000 would be more than enough. This year showed that large stadia are not needed. I can think of only 3 games all year that filled a ground of 30k plus and all were hurling games. The GAA don't need another trophy millstone. Invest the money in games development.

25 years ago today the GAA signed contracts for CP redevelopment.

From RTÉ Archives:

https://www.rte.ie/archives/2018/0813/984816-croke-park-to-be-reborn/

Bonniedog wrote: »

It was rejected on safety grounds, and they also lost a court appeal. So far as I recall, there was only one set of entrances and exits in old ground on stand side? Granted I was only ever there for Dublin league games so may be mistaken.

They seemed to have dropped the proposal now and of course the local West Belfast politicos - SF basically - have seemingly lost interest so Antrim GAA is left with godawful mess and reliant on a few club grounds which are just about okay for Antrim league games but would probably force then to use Newry if the footballers drew big game at home in Ulster, .

Well I'm happy for anything to put a stop to the madness of building massive stadia all over the country to cater for a sport that on average attracts a crowd of 15-20k per game outside of semi finals and finals.
The very idea that we would build a stadium to accommodate the rugby world cup then be left with the cost of maintaining it so it can be half full twice a year is madness.

The lads that sanctioned €80m to be sunk into PUC should be flogged. No team outside Dublin should have a home ground capable of holding more than 15k.

zetecescort wrote: »

I take it you didnt see any of the hurling this year so

Average attendance up to and including the quarter finals this year was a tad over 19k. Given that the Leinster final went to a replay and the munster final also skews the figures it's fairly save to say the actual average for standard games is close to 15k.

threeball wrote: »

Good. There shouldn't be a penny put in to this project until a realistic stadium proposition is put in place. 15,000 would be more than enough. This year showed that large stadia are not needed. I can think of only 3 games all year that filled a ground of 30k plus and all were hurling games. The GAA don't need another trophy millstone. Invest the money in games development.

I dont quite get your point tbh? What about Ulster and Munster finals, mayo V galway?

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

I dont quite get your point tbh? What about Ulster and Munster finals, mayo V galway?

I have said before that each province should have one mini croker but every county ground shouldn't exceed 15k. It's just not needed and a total waste of funds.

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

I hope not, although the story above is a reflection of the deep frustration that Antrim Gaels must feel.

The money for the redevelopment of Casement has been set aside specifically for that project, but the current hold up relates to the impasse at Stormont. The Casement Park redevelopment is hoped to be not just a boost for Gaelic Games in the west of the City, but a boost for the local economy, as the aim is for the ground to be a regular concert venue and to have facilities for hosting business conferences etc.

That said, it is Antrim who are losing out, and the question must be asked as to why the ground itself was allowed to fall into disrepair before any start date for redevelopment was confirmed.

I understand the reasons for the bigger stadium especially with the funds being thrown at it, but the majority gaa fans in ulster i think would prefer clones still as it is a better atmosphere and easier access for most countys, With the locals unlikely to back down maybe its time for antrim just to build 20k stadium for there own uses and leave clones for the finals

On a separate note i see Louth are ready to kick of development of a news stadium in Dundalk

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/louth-gaa-to-build-new-8m-home-in-dundalk-37311031.html

914 wrote: »

Waterford's Walsh Park has received planning from Waterford city and County council for redevelopment of the ground.

https://www.waterfordlive.ie/news/home/333474/waterford-gaa-granted-permission-to-redevelop-walsh-park.html

Images of the development in the next link

http://www.waterfordinyourpocket.com/proposed-development-walsh-park/

A solid stadium design there. Nothing special, but a comfortable and compact stadium. It’ll probably hold about 17k maybe. Not too sure why you’d have an uncovered seated stand. I’d rather stand in the rain, rather than sit on wet seats. At least there’s going to be a covered terrace. Something that more GAA stadiums need.

914 wrote: »

Waterford's Walsh Park has received planning from Waterford city and County council for redevelopment of the ground.

https://www.waterfordlive.ie/news/home/333474/waterford-gaa-granted-permission-to-redevelop-walsh-park.html

Images of the development in the next link

http://www.waterfordinyourpocket.com/proposed-development-walsh-park/

That's more like it. That's what counties should be aiming for with the exception of the uncovered stand.
The atmosphere at club finals and league games will be much improved too

looks like there'll be some developments near croke park.

The GAA is in talks to buy the former Holy Cross College which could be turned into a hotel and social housing.

The Archdiocese of Dublin announced the discussions, blaming financial strains on the upkeep of the property as a primary reason for the sale.

Currently only the GAA and the diocese are involved in talks on the purchase of the Drumcondra property, which hasn't been operational as a seminary college since 2000.

The building, founded in 1854, is currently listed by Dublin City Council as a protected structure, and the owners are in talks with architectural experts to ensure it is preserved.

The diocese has said the land will be used for social, affordable and private housing, a hotel and sport facilities for children and young adults.

The Clonliffe Road land is a stone's throw away from GAA headquarters at Croke Park.

A statement from the diocese said it was co-operating closely with the GAA "on plans to ensure the lands and buildings be developed into one of the most significant community projects for the north city.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gaa-in-talks-to-buy-former-holy-cross-college-from-church-and-use-land-for-social-housing-37407071.html

Its vague on details but you'd presume the hotel is going to be the Croke Park hotel II , a hotel in an out of the way location for a random tourist but perfect for anyone attending a conference or event in croker, meaning only the GAA would be bothered driving such a project or seeing it as more attractive than throwing up a few apartments and flogging them for millions of profit.

As for community sports facilities, I can only think that the general lack of GAA pitches in the inner city and imminent digging up of na Fianna's pitches for the Metro North means there'll be a number of smaller GAA pitches/ training pitches installed ("sport facilities for children and young adults") .

Joe.ie mentions that the "Holy See", aka the vatican, has to give final approval for the sale so I hope the sandwiches and tea was up to scratch for the Pope when he was in croke park a few months back!