Formula 1 2018: General Discussion Thread

cherryghost · 14-08-2018 04:44PM

So Kimi is now the last v10 driver on the grid for 2019?

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 14-08-2018 04:47PM

cherryghost wrote: »

So Kimi is now the last v10 driver on the grid for 2019?

And the only one to have driven a V9.

Harika might know the exact race that he finished with only 9 of the 10 cylinders working.

flazio · 14-08-2018 05:28PM

cherryghost wrote: »

So Kimi is now the last v10 driver on the grid for 2019?

If he gets confirmed, and I don't mean by a bishop.

recyclebin · 14-08-2018 05:31PM

I think I would prefer Ocon over Sainz in the Mclaren next year. Or maybe both to replace Alonso and Vandoorne.

g1983d · 14-08-2018 05:39PM

McLaren to be challenging for championship next year knowing Alonso's luck

skipper_G · 14-08-2018 05:53PM

Kind of bitter sweet announcement from Alonso, on the one hand I'm sad the driver I've rooted for all these years is leaving. On the other he won't have to spend his Sundays trailing around at the back scrapping for a few points in a sh1tbox. At least if he goes to Indycar he might have a chance at success.

As for Mclaren, a potential Sainz / Vandoorne lineup for next year is very uninspiring. Neither have been particularly impressive, just sort of inoffensive average F1 drivers. Vandoorne has done nothing to show he belongs on the grid, the guy who's retiring has wiped the floor with him for a season and a half (2 by seasons end). Sainz has been made to look fairly ordinary by Hulk and is likely to be passed over for the Red Bull seat by Gasly. If that's what they end up with, then they'll just be another midfield team with zero star power.

cherryghost · 14-08-2018 07:38PM

If there was 2 open seats for next year for McLaren, who do they bring in? I'm struggling to think of a good pair.

AMKC · 14-08-2018 07:56PM

Here is my suggestion on what I think is going to happen next in the driver market now that Alonso has announced he is retiring from F1 next year.

Carlos Sainz will stay with Renault and Nico Hulkenberg will surprise everyone by announcing that he is going to move to Mclaren to partner Stoffel Vandoorne there and so he can be number 1 there as he does not think he will be when Riccardo joins Renault. He also says he wants a new challenge and to help Mclaren rebuild and get back to racing at the front.

Jordan 199 · 14-08-2018 08:18PM

AMKC wrote: »

Here is my suggestion on what I think is going to happen next in the driver market now that Alonso has announced he is retiring from F1 next year.

Carlos Sainz will stay with Renault and Nico Hulkenberg will surprise everyone by announcing that he is going to move to Mclaren to partner Stoffel Vandoorne there and so he can be number 1 there as he does not think he will be when Riccardo joins Renault. He also says he wants a new challenge and to help Mclaren rebuild and get back to racing at the front.

Hulkenberg would be mad to leave Renault.

AMKC · 14-08-2018 08:39PM

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Hulkenberg would be mad to leave Renault.

Oh I agree but it is silly season after all. Do you think He will become number two at Renault or will he and Riccardo have equal status?

Jordan 199 · 14-08-2018 08:45PM

AMKC wrote: »

Oh I agree but it is silly season after all. Do you think He will become number two at Renault or will he and Riccardo have equal status?

I think Ricciardo will have No.1 status.

Cookie_Monster · 14-08-2018 09:24PM

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Hulkenberg would be mad to leave Renault.

But would Renault keep him at this point, he's an anonymous mid field driver who adds nothing special

Jordan 199 · 14-08-2018 09:33PM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

But would Renault keep him at this point, he's an anonymous mid field driver who adds nothing special

He's seventh in the championship standings at the moment, behind the drivers in the top three teams. He's doing a good job IMO.

oceanman · 14-08-2018 09:39PM

g1983d wrote: »

McLaren to be challenging for championship next year knowing Alonso's luck

true..if he didn't have bad luck as they say...

flazio · 14-08-2018 09:59PM

https://twitter.com/HulkHulkenberg/status/1025353037538320386

Yeah, safe to say he isn't going anywhere.

McLaren will end up with Sainz and Vandoorne.
Ocon will end up at Williams alongside Sirotken and Checo will end up at Haas or Sauber depending on where LeClerc goes.
Let's face it. Staying at Sauber might not end up being the worst move for next year.

Faugheen · 14-08-2018 10:00PM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Hulkenberg would be mad to leave Renault.

But would Renault keep him at this point, he's an anonymous mid field driver who adds nothing special

People expected Sainz to trounce him this year and it hasn't happened. In races where both drivers have finished Sainz has only beaten him twice.

You're vastly under-rating Hulk there imo. He's very unlucky in a way. If he hadn't committed to Renault there's a big chance that he would have got the Merc drive when Rosberg retired.

seamusk84 · 14-08-2018 10:02PM

Been an Alonso fan forever at this stage...Even have the Minardi team shirt in my wardrobe from 2001! Don't know who I will be cheering on next year now. Kimi I guess?

Be great if we had some Irish talent in the coming years on the grid.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 14-08-2018 10:05PM

seamusk84 wrote: »

Been an Alonso fan forever at this stage...Even have the Minardi team shirt in my wardrobe from 2001! Don't know who I will be cheering on next year now. Kimi I guess?

Be great if we had some Irish talent in the coming years on the grid.

Was Japan 2001 what defined him I wonder?

TCP/IP · 14-08-2018 10:18PM

Alonso is no loss to the grid he has placed himself in a place where big teams don’t want him due to his inflated ego and is a liability.

It’s been a long time since he was in the top tier. No doubt he was talented in his day but he has dug too many holes for himself.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 14-08-2018 10:32PM

TCP/IP wrote: »

Alonso is no loss to the grid he has placed himself in a place where big teams don’t want him due to his inflated ego and is a liability.

It’s been a long time since he was in the top tier. No doubt he was talented in his day but he has dug too many holes for himself.

I said it a few times that it was McLaren in 2007 that ended his relationship with Mercedes and while he got a second bit of the cherry with Ferrari he was too critical of them and acted like a spoiled brat

Charlie-Bravo · 14-08-2018 11:25PM

So can we take it that Alonso is not leaving McLaren. I mean, is there any report stating he's leaving the team? All I can see is that he's leaving F1. I am thinking that they've lined up a McLaren Indycar team with Alonso.

weekaizer · 14-08-2018 11:31PM

I will miss Alonso next year. I will always remember his face after interlagos 2012 staring into space through his helmet having lost out on the championship.
That year of all years he deserved his third title as the Red Bull and Mclaren cars were much superier to his Ferrari not to mention the quality of the individual drivers of those cars.

Infoanon · 14-08-2018 11:32PM

astrofluff wrote: »

So can we take it that Alonso is not leaving McLaren. I mean, is there any report stating he's leaving the team? All I can see is that he's leaving F1. I am thinking that they've lined up a McLaren Indycar team with Alonso.

Indycar chier Mark Miles has confirmed that Indycar and McLaren are working hand in hand to have a McLaren team on the Indycar grid for next year.

Mark Miles also added that it will be closer to the end of the year before everything is sorted.

It was expected that Scott Dixon would be Alonsos team mate but Scott has resigned with Ganassi.

Will miss having Alonso on the grid but there is no point running around in 10th with no chance of winning no matter how talented.

Is Sainz a number 1 driver yet ??

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 14-08-2018 11:34PM

So if McLaren magically have a race winning car next year someone will be booted out for him?

vectra · 15-08-2018 01:36AM

Prisoner 6753 wrote: »

So if McLaren magically have a race winning car next year someone will be booted out for him?

I don't think so, I have a feeling that Alonso is going Indy until and if McLaren can get their act together and produce a winning car, then he might come back.

Joeseph Balls · 15-08-2018 05:49AM

vectra wrote: »

I don't think so, I have a feeling that Alonso is going Indy until and if McLaren can get their act together and produce a winning car, then he might come back.

He's 37,
I don't see him back at all

Harika · 15-08-2018 06:51AM

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-formula-one-driver-might-be-a-guy-who-hasnt-won-since-2013/

Statistical information about Fernando how good he is

vectra · 15-08-2018 08:58AM

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

He's 37,
I don't see him back at all

True
But according to stories Kimi could be 41 by the time he retires.
That give Alonso another 4 years.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 15-08-2018 09:09AM

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

He's 37,
I don't see him back at all

Schumacher retired in 2006 aged 37, returned in 2010 aged 40 retired for good in 2012 aged 43 securing just a single podium.

I don’t see Alonso doing likewise

McLaren haven’t actually come out and said he can come back either.

There’s no guarantee that the current management setup will be in place even next year.

Only Zak Brown is most likely the only one who will stick by Alonso.

PopePalpatine · 15-08-2018 09:09AM

I remember Hakkinen announcing his sabbatical in 2001, which eventually turned into retirement. I see no reason to think Alonso's not going down the same route.

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