Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I can’t answer for you, but the reason why I don’t claim benefits is because I wouldn’t want to be on the other side of the counter to you when I’d be claiming benefits to which I am legally entitled and you’re eyeballing me like it’s coming out of your own pocket :pac:

If your question was meant to be asking why do you bother complaining about it, I don’t know.

rom wrote: »

Its about time they brought in the benefits cap here in Ireland like they have in the UK. There should be no incentive to have a very large family.

SpaceRocket wrote: »

It's all kicking off now on her FB. ICHH and herself have a "plan" in place according to the CEO and this is why she is turning down the nightly accommodation...

fritzelly wrote: »

Don't see that but there should be a limit to how often you can try to help someone and them saying no - basically we offered somewhere five times, they refused so we now class them as not needing help from the homeless services.
Move on to the next real homeless family

One eyed Jack wrote: »

That gave me a giggle at least, it’s like the new “I’m not a racist, but...”

More to the point however is the fact that nobody is taking advantage of anything if they are simply claiming something to which they are legally entitled to claim for. You can’t blame individuals for claiming something which they are legally entitled to claim for. You would have a point if they were fraudulently claiming for something to which they are not entitled, but even people in employment are entitled to claim for financial assistance for various reasons from the State, so this idea that someone in employment wouldn’t receive as much in financial assistance from the State as someone who is unemployed, well there are reasons for that.

The number one reason of course is that they simply aren’t entitled to claim for payments to which they are not entitled. That would be fraud, and there has been no evidence of fraud in this particular case, so everyone appears to be getting their knickers in a bunch and venting their frustration at the wrong target. The individual in this particular case, or the individuals you refer to, aren’t taking advantage, and the main reason I can think you bother is because you wouldn’t want to be anything like them in their circumstances.

You really don’t have a legitimate grievance about anyone else’s circumstances if you’re only picking and choosing the bits that suit you. It makes you no different than someone who is claiming that they should have a house because they see everyone else has a house, completely ignoring the fact that people are entitled to own or rent property of their choosing when they’re paying for it.

SpaceRocket wrote: »

It's all kicking off now on her FB. ICHH and herself have a "plan" in place according to the CEO and this is why she is turning down the nightly accommodation...

TAPlank wrote: »

The demand for free housing is ever increasing, there are many reasons.

1. Minimal emigration in the critical years. They have since produced children here, contributing to the population rise.

2. Not building social housing when the government was awash with money.

3. Ireland going broke when the housing demand started rising.

4. Inability or unwillingness by all sides to deal with the Elephants in the room, of (The bulk of which are modern day ones)

a} Broken homes,

b} Single parent families.

c} Benefits increasing with family size.

d} Irresponsible parenthood. (Have children when you can provide for them).

e} Unacceptance of entitlements being balanced by responsibilities.
Help should only be given to those who are unable to help them selves and to those who want to restart their lives. All should, in their own way, try to better themselves and in turn, the country


Those who may think that I'm right wing, couldn't be more wrong.



My qualifications: For much of my 85 years, as I made my way through life, I never relied on the state, I paid my taxes, had a lowish paid job, and the top marginal tax rate was then 62%, and "I looked the whole world in it's face, for I owed not any man."



How many realise, or even want to accept, that the helping hand they need is to be found at the end of their arm.


Here endeth the lesson.

dartboardio wrote: »

You mean you can’t blame individuals for taking the piss out of our country? I suppose you’re right, we should all sit back, not work, mindlessly have kids and rake in the cash.