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Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    anewme wrote: »
    That poster has not condemnedher being caught robbing and nit turning up for numerous warrants.

    She was caught with stolen property miles from where she lives, ie, those maurading traveller gangs that Operation Thor and the likes target.

    She deserves nothing and anyone who feels sorry for her is a fool.

    It's your home and your parents/grandparents homes her and her gang are robbing.

    Funny story. I asked the OH had she heard about the story when it broke, and she was all fully of sympathy.

    Then i told her about the arrest for involvement in a gang robbing rural homes...Her response, oh so she's a traveler then, its sad that she was right.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    bobbyss wrote: »
    She's 28. Not done with babies yet. How many will she be the mother of when she's 40?

    The youngest is 1 so she had 7 in 10 years, from 17 to 27.

    It is very likely she could replicate that number and have 14 by 37, given how it is their 'culture' I wouldn't rule it out.

    Seeing as the father is only in custody since July, there is every chance baby number 8 is already on the way and we just don't know about it yet.

    How many will she be a grandmother of before she's done popping out her own ??

    I'd say the eldest isn't far off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,531 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    I have zero issue with this lady being a traveller. I have massive issues with the social welfare system which permits and indeed promotes this.

    Personally I'd like to see:
    1. An end to the house for life policy. Houses are granted for 6 year tenancies at a time with no caps on rental amounts at all. Then you need to reapply and go back on the list and move out if you have not found work. Thats plenty of time for someone to get retrained/move jobs. If you get a very good job the rising rental amount encourages movement back into the private system. It also means that houses do not become "blocked" by single people after children have left etc. 6 years at a time is long enough for children in school to be settled and moved after 6 years if needs be. Houses at 3-4 beds max. Council houses should not be able to be sold at reduced rates ever and cannot be passed from one generation tot he next. They should go on the market at full rate if the council feels they no longer need it/its not up to scratch. Houses to be granted within 45km of the preferred area (same as the redeployment schemes in the public service). One refusal then you are taken off the list.

    2. An outright cap on benefits. No one should be earning more in benefits than an average worker. Set the limit high then lower it. Heck even a 40k limit would eliminate some of these cases without affecting the people who need it most and stop encouraging having more and more children.

    3. A severely reducing child benefit amount after the 3/4th child. E.g. Full for 1 and 2, Half for 3 and 4, quarter for 5 and 6. Nothing beyond that.

    4. No automatic free travel unless for a specific reason e.g. work, hospital appointments, school buses

    5. Medical Card granted with time limits like the house unless in the case of serious illness (not in the case of out of work for example). 6 year time limit then re-application required

    Apart from that I do think that we should be pushing for initial 6 months or even 1 year of Job seekers benefit be a proper social welfare net in line with other countries e.g. 70% of income etc. I've no issue with things like carers allowance etc. I don't have any major issues with social welfare nets but I have a massive problem with the current free for all where things are granted and never checked again

    the type of people we are talking about in this thread can't be retrained or made employable. those who want to work will work, they are the 99%.
    i'm not sure what the first part of your suggestion is designed to achieve? by looking at it,, it sounds completely unviable, and like we are moving people for the sake of moving them after a certain time. if we simply want to move on people who can afford to rent privately and single people to smaller houses, i'd imagine that can easily be done already, or if not, they can via a small change to council powers under the rental assessment.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    How many will she be a grandmother of before she's done popping out her own ??

    I'd say the eldest isn't far off.

    Eldest is 11, I've heard of traveller children/girls with travellers popping them out at 14/15.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I've a soft spot for SVP. Not a homeless charity. I never miss their Christmas appeal. There are chancers. My own guess is about 10 percent get help that doesn't need it but you can help a small child have a present from Santa. Every child deserves to believe in Santa for a few years imo.

    Short story
    I heard a young woman on the radio talking about homelessness around the time of Apollo House. She would have been under 20 years of age. As a young teenager she was in a hotel for the best part of a year with her mum. Her mum worked part time. She stayed in the same school and her mum tried to keep her in a good routine. Come November or early December her class made up shoeboxs for homeless children & she participated in this. It was only at Christmas time when she received one of these boxes that she realised for the first time that she was homeless. Her mum had done such a great job protecting her.


    That story still puts a smile on my face whenever I think of her it. The innocence of children

    What the fcuk has this got to do with this woman who is robbing the tax payer blind? You are doing the homeless a disservice by comparing them to this sponge who is robbing off everyone. She’s robbing a house off a genuine homeless family, she’s robbing hard working people’s tax, yet you for some reason keep on defending her bull****. I wish we could get the likes of her and the likes of you that love to stick up for her and leaves you all on an island together. You’ll find out how innocent the likes of her really are.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    Cos I saw it as an attention seeking stunt I'm now a bad person.

    Doesn't change my mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,299 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    c.p.w.g.w wrote:
    Then i told her about the arrest for involvement in a gang robbing rural homes...Her response, oh so she's a traveler then, its sad that she was right.

    I've seen this put out a lot in the last few days. What was she convicted of?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I've seen this put out a lot in the last few days. What was she convicted of?

    Possession of stolen property, along with 37 other offences to date


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I've seen this put out a lot in the last few days. What was she convicted of?
    A conviction of handling stolen property was recorded but no penalty imposed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,753 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I've seen this put out a lot in the last few days. What was she convicted of?

    Well she was found drunk driving a car full of the proceeds of a recent burglary.

    Bizarrely she was considered not to have played a part in the burglary... But convicted of handling stolen goods. I'd have considered her a getaway driver personally.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Next time I hear there are 3,000 families in emergency accommodation or whatever I’ll know what to think of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,299 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Eldest is 11, I've heard of traveller children/girls with travellers popping them out at 14/15.


    Again why the need to say travellers? Plenty of settled girls get pregnant even younger that 14. The traveller part has nothing to do with it.

    Is it not easier & more accurate just to say girls instead of traveler girls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I've seen this put out a lot in the last few days. What was she convicted of?

    https://www.wexfordpeople.ie/news/three-women-on-burglary-charges-27698498.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Again why the need to say travellers? Plenty of settled girls get pregnant even younger that 14. The traveller part has nothing to do with it.

    Is it not easier & more accurate just to say girls instead of traveler girls

    It all comes down to culture, it is not unheard of in the settled community but is more common in the travelling community.

    I went to school with a few travellers myself, while absenteeism with them was high they weren't troublesome, merely reproducing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Dakota Dan wrote: »

    How many bloody surnames has she?

    Edit:

    The article is from September 2008, making that Margaret now aged 38. Can't be the same one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    How many bloody surnames has she?

    And the media still haven't clicked to her real name, too busy glorifying her. McDonagh sounds like the right one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,299 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    tom1ie wrote:
    What the fcuk has this got to do with this woman who is robbing the tax payer blind? You are doing the homeless a disservice by comparing them to this sponge who is robbing off everyone. She’s robbing a house off a genuine homeless family, she’s robbing hard working people’s tax, yet you for some reason keep on defending her bull****. I wish we could get the likes of her and the likes of you that love to stick up for her and leaves you all on an island together. You’ll find out how innocent the likes of her really are.

    If you can't read posts in the thread then maybe you should stop posting. I answered an off topic question about donations to homeless charities. I mentioned SVP because all children deserve to have a Christmas. I then repeated a story I heard on the radio about an innocent homeless child at Christmas. The question was off topic and the answer was off topic

    Off topic means that it has nothing to do with this woman or her children.

    Don't go jumping down my throat just because you don't read posts correctly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,753 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    How many bloody surnames has she?

    Edit:

    The article is from September 2008, making that Margaret now aged 38. Can't be the same one?

    That's not the right article by the looks of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    And the media still haven't clicked to her real name, too busy glorifying her.

    Is Cash some sort of a stage name due to her fondness for that particular word?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭SirChenjin


    Maeve Sheehan got it just a bit wrong when she wrote "The 27-year-old mother from the travelling community has actually done the State some service. She has exposed another bleak milestone in the creeping advance of homelessness that went unnoticed until she posted a photograph last Wednesday night of six of her seven children sleeping in the reception area of Tallaght Garda Station" in today's Sindo.

    More like she has highlighted to the hardworking taxpayers in Ireland that you can be a non-productive member of society, pop out multiple kids before you're 30, have a jailbird hubby and get a free house. It's yet another reminder that those of us who have jobs, pay our taxes, have mortgages/rent and generally pay our way are funding these leeches.

    Exactly what I thought when I read that article.

    I think this debacle has touched a very raw nerve with many hard working people in this country.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Eldest is 11, I've heard of traveller children/girls with travellers popping them out at 14/15.


    Again why the need to say travellers? Plenty of settled girls get pregnant even younger that 14. The traveller part has nothing to do with it.

    Is it not easier & more accurate just to say girls instead of traveler girls

    I'd say the difference would be the parents of the non Traveller pregnant teenager would be disappointed, asking questions about the father, worrying about her future and questioning what they did wrong.

    Ms Cash and her ilk would be arranging a wholly inappropriate and expensive baby shower and totting up the handouts and "entitlements".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Is Cash some sort of a stage name due to her fondness for that particular word?

    I've never heard of a traveler named Cash, maybe she had a Johnny Cash album in her hand when she dreamed it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    SirChenjin wrote: »
    Exactly what I thought when I read that article.

    I think this debacle has touched a very raw nerve with many hard working people in this country.

    More like the plan has spectacularly backfired, the Facebook page adding insult to injury.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭Creative83


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/no-matter-what-i-have-done-in-my-past-i-have-a-right-to-be-housed-homeless-mother-trolled-on-social-media-37207510.html


    "No matter what I have done in my past I have a right to be housed" The cheek of her! Nobody has a right to be housed :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭SirChenjin


    anewme wrote: »
    I have.

    We support Inner City Hekping Homejess through work and they won't get one more red cent off me after this. I'm also going to write to them and if it's suggested In work again I won't take part.

    I think they word "homeless" is the most abused word Of this decade.

    Apollo House was a complete fiasco, then that Erica Fleming scam artist and now this.


    I also know a lot of people feel the same.

    +1 to this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    I've never heard of a traveler named Cash, maybe she had a Johnny Cash album in her hand when she dreamed it up.

    I haven't either, McCarthy,McDonagh etc etc yeah, but definitely not Cash.

    Her son's name is Johnny alright though according to one article.

    If the son carries that surname and not the father's then he is possibly Johnny Cash?

    I'll say one thing though, she certainly has created a 'ring of fire' going public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    What really winds me up is her "so what" attitude. :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Creative83 wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/no-matter-what-i-have-done-in-my-past-i-have-a-right-to-be-housed-homeless-mother-trolled-on-social-media-37207510.html


    "No matter what I have done in my past I have a right to be housed" The cheek of her! Nobody has a right to be housed :rolleyes:

    Maeve Sheehan needs new business cards. Any that say Journalist are out of date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭mickrock


    So, Ms Cash has the "good life" by breeding like a rabbit?

    Having to look after all those children sounds more like a bloody nightmare to me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    What really winds me up is her "so what" attitude. :mad:

    I'm surprised she hasn't joined Boards.ie to defend herself and even more surprised that the media hasn't picked up on the outrage shown in this thread.


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