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Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    MFPM wrote: »
    Do tell me how?...Oh, kind of ironic name you have there given your apathy for this woman and her family.

    You and your sort only pity, you have zero aspiration for these kids.

    You know nothing about me or my life and what I've been through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Am i missing something or is this site full of fascist right wing thinkers?

    Why would anyone make a laugh of this? The government have failed those kids. In Irish society no person should not have a front door of their own. I dont believe this to be a pr stunt.

    Care to explain how or why this is the governments fault?

    99%+ plus of the population seem to manage fine...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,541 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The single mother slut probably refused several properties. It should be sterilised.

    No need to resort to name calling. There’s every chance all the kids have the same father.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭MFPM


    yep deluded.

    Fintan O'Toole
    Kitty Holland
    Vincent Browne
    Joe Duffy
    Philip boucher Hayes
    Kieran Cuddihy
    Colette Browne
    Sarah McInerney
    Patrick Freyne
    Conor Hunt

    That' just off the top of my head and Sean O'Rourke or Maria Finucane aren't particularly right wing either.
    I could go on and on and on.

    Left wing opinions dominate in our media.

    It's indoctrinated in them from their times studying sociology and arts degrees in college which is also left wing dominated.

    Cuddihy is no left winger, FFS nor is McInerney....Freyne is predominantly a media commentator.

    As for the media dominated by left wing opinion you really should go and educate yourself a bit more - read the unflinching support for austerity throughout the economic crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    MFPM wrote:
    Thankfully people with your attitudes don't get to
    make that decision and if you have kids I hope they grow up with more humanity than you have.


    I have two children in their twenties. Both of them volunteer along with my wife with homeless charities. I am not against any homeless person or family. I am against anyone who lies & cheats and tries to steal another families place on the housing list.

    I don't understand how anyone can defend someone trying to steal another families place. How do you decide that one family is more deserving than another? I prefer to leave that to the professionals


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    MFPM wrote: »
    Cuddihy is no left winger, FFS nor is McInerney....Freyne is predominantly a media commentator.

    As for the media dominated by left wing opinion you really should go and educate yourself a bit more - read the unflinching support for austerity throughout the economic crisis.

    oh grow up. I'm not going back and forth on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,129 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    MFPM wrote: »
    Are you suggesting there is no crisis?



    You are aware that many many people who are taxpaying productive workers are caught up in the 'so called' crisis? Secondly how would you suggest just this cohort of people are prioritized - higher wages, less stringent banking regulations...enlighten us?



    You negate any argument you have with the use of that term.



    If you bothered to read my post you'll note I said the problem is because of an over dependence on the private market to provide housing and the refusal of the state to actively build a substantial number of social and affordable houses - the solutions are quite simple but the government will not engage with them.



    Again put your glasses on and read, I specifically made the point about the how the taxpayers subsidies the profits of the REITs to the tune of millions but you didn't notice that because you were too busy propagating your indignation at this one woman and her children.

    Now when you get over that indignation and you want an intelligent debate on the housing crisis let me know otherwise p!ss off back to indignantville.

    How to solve this is what I am asking?

    You appear to be having a right Left wing rant, pardon the pun.

    Have you any sympathy for those who are working who cannot afford to live in Dublin, as opposed to those who demand to do so at the taxpayer's cost?

    And there is no need to be so rabid and insulting. We are just having a debate. But sometimes those who have no argument shout the loudest with inanities and insults.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    On the 17th July she is posting on fb celebrating "she got a house"

    What happened that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭MFPM


    You and your sort only pity, you have zero aspiration for these kids.

    You know nothing about me or my life and what I've been through.
    You and your sort only pity, you have zero aspiration for these kids.

    I do have pity, I'm a human being and as for aspiration well they won't get any if they're homeless.
    You know nothing about me or my life and what I've been through.

    I made no comment about you or your life I made a comment over your name and the irony of your use of it given the creator of the character and the work you took it from - your lack of empathy is very at odds with both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭Icsics


    As others have said, her facebook page is a revelation. Sun beds, elaborate communion dress, drink, presents etc. She has a post up about her children being taken on holiday & complaining as one was being sent home for being 'bold'. Absolute utter disgrace that the taxpayer is funding her lifestyle choice & now she wants a house for the brood, should have thought about housing before u had all these children Margaret!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Media having a field day with this one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Horrible thing to say


    I'm an anti FG but can't fault them on this scam artist. I just knew her Facebook page would hang her.



    I don't know. I knew she was from the get go. I repeat, con artists like this lady get homeless people a bad name. This is why started the thread


    Most are too ashamed (not that they should be) to come forward. What caring mother would put their children in a photo like this




    There was a lot of good intention behind Apollo house. The fact that the chef turned out to be a sex offender doesn't take away from the vast majority of good intentions behind Apollo house.


    I hope that the posters who I'd usually be on the same side as will in future take a step back & think before posting. Several attacked me and my motivation yet I have been proven right. Plenty attacked me personally or my intentions whilst I'm trying to point out a con artist & at the same time stick up for homeless people & their rights

    Facebook always tells the truth in the end

    Proved right? Where?

    The worst I could see on her Facebook was two tanning sessions (they cost just over 5 euro) one very large drinking session, and one small drinking session.

    Apparently there’s a foreign holiday I didn’t see.

    None of this is evidence that she’s pulling a scam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    On the 17th July she is posting on fb celebrating "she got a house"

    What happened that?

    Turned it down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭MFPM


    How to solve this is what I am asking?

    You appear to be having a right Left wing rant, pardon the pun.

    Have you any sympathy for those who are working who cannot afford to live in Dublin, as opposed to those who demand to do so at the taxpayer's cost?

    And there is no need to be so rabid and insulting. We are just having a debate. But sometimes those who have no argument shout the loudest with inanities and insults.
    How to solve this is what I am asking?

    I've made several points in several posts on this.
    Have you any sympathy for those who are working who cannot afford to live in Dublin, as opposed to those who demand to do so at the taxpayer's cost?

    I moved out of Dublin last year at great inconvenience because I couldn't afford to live there, I drive 5 hours or take a 6 hour train journey to and from work most days occasionally staying with family so I know all about the problems of affordability.
    And there is no need to be so rabid and insulting.

    Have you asked all the poster spewing abuse at this woman not to be so rabid and insulting?
    the taxpayer's cost

    Tell me, do you have a problem subsidizing the profits of the REITs through your taxation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Seems several posters trying to get the tread locked ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,129 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    Media having a field day with this one

    They ought to be ashamed of themselves. The contributors to and taxpayers of this country deserve a lot better than reporting this type of stunt as being a stain on all our characters.

    Journos research tools make them look like total tools now also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭VonZan


    MFPM wrote: »
    Are you suggesting there is no crisis?



    You are aware that many many people who are taxpaying productive workers are caught up in the 'so called' crisis? Secondly how would you suggest just this cohort of people are prioritized - higher wages, less stringent banking regulations...enlighten us?



    You negate any argument you have with the use of that term.



    If you bothered to read my post you'll note I said the problem is because of an over dependence on the private market to provide housing and the refusal of the state to actively build a substantial number of social and affordable houses - the solutions are quite simple but the government will not engage with them.



    Again put your glasses on and read, I specifically made the point about the how the taxpayers subsidies the profits of the REITs to the tune of millions but you didn't notice that because you were too busy propagating your indignation at this one woman and her children.

    Now when you get over that indignation and you want an intelligent debate on the housing crisis let me know otherwise p!ss off back to indignantville.

    Any sort of intelligent debate on this topic leads to the conclusion that social and affordable housing aren't feasible on the mass scale that is needed. The problem is creating artificially high standards that most people simply cannot afford.

    Also, regulation is the problem and it puts off many people investing in this country. We aren't a socialist country nor do we have the means to provide state subsidied housing on the scale 'needed'.

    Having six kids and expecting the state to provide for them shows a shocking level of entitlement from this women and the media. It shows how out of touch they are with the taxpayer.

    The only way the state can create the funding required for a project would be to increase CT and Income Tax. They won't touch CT and Income tax increases will lead to absolute chaos as I don't think the taxpayer are willing to take another hit for the so-called 'greater good'.

    It's very easy to say to build more houses, how about telling us where the money comes from? I certainly wouldn't be willing to pay a cent extra to subsidise the lifestyles of those that continually rely on the state in perpetuity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Turned it down

    She was inviting people to come for tea and seemed delighted with it. I don't think she did turn it down. It was in Tallaght.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,129 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    MFPM wrote: »
    I've made several points in several posts on this.



    I moved out of Dublin last year at great inconvenience because I couldn't afford to live there, I drive 5 hours or take a 6 hour train journey to and from work most days occasionally staying with family so I know all about the problems of affordability.



    Have you asked all the poster spewing abuse at this woman not to be so rabid and insulting?



    Tell me, do you have a problem subsidizing the profits of the REITs through your taxation?

    Someone didn't invest in REITS on time I'm guessing!

    I was responding to YOUR post not anyone else's, I wish I could have 100 fingers on my keyboard to do so, but I only have ten.

    Relax. Do not get angry, it is just a website with differing views.

    But honestly, I cannot understand how you are not seething given your commute and obligation to move so far away, when others can just demand what they want at our expense.

    I really think the tide is turning now though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,129 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    VonZan wrote: »
    Any sort of intelligent debate on this topic leads to the conclusion that social and affordable housing aren't feasible on the mass scale that is needed. The problem is creating artificially high standards that most people simply cannot afford.

    Also, regulation is the problem and it puts off many people investing in this country. We aren't a socialist country nor do we have the means to provide state subsidied housing on the scale 'needed'.

    Having six kids and expecting the state to provide for them shows a shocking level of entitlement from this women and the media. It shows how out of touch they are with the taxpayer.

    The only way the state can create the funding required for a project would be to increase CT and Income Tax. They won't touch CT and Income tax increases will lead to absolute chaos as I don't think the taxpayer are willing to take another hit for the so-called 'greater good'.

    It's very easy to say to build more houses, how about telling us where the money comes from? I certainly wouldn't be willing to pay a cent extra to subsidise the lifestyles of those that continually rely on the state in perpetuity.

    Excellent post.

    The fact of the matter is, that many of those who demand State subsidised housing seem to only accept what they WANT, not what they NEED!

    And so the homeless charities and mouthpieces get their say, again at taxpayer expense.

    We will never be able to house everyone who cannot afford to house themselves, I don't think any country can.

    Anyway. The taxpayers of this country need a voice too. And I hope they will get it soon enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    She was inviting people to come for tea and seemed delighted with it. I don't think she did turn it down. It was in Tallaght.


    I'm just delighted that we stopped the prisoners wives benefit almost 10 years ago. Not prisoners spouse or husband. Just prisoners wives benefit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Where does.she want to be housed?
    Its all well and good to be homeless but homeless six kids and insisting on remaining near family/school/dole office really irkes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Where does.she want to be housed? Its all well and good to be homeless but homeless six kids and insisting on remaining near family/school/dole office really irkes.


    It doesn't matter. There are families ahead of her on the housing list and her publicity stunt shouldn't let her skip other people with children


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Headline on RTE 9 News!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,608 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Those kids should be in foster care to give them some chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,788 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I heard this on the news this morning, and of course I knew it was going to be sensationalised to the hilt, cos the media love stories like this.

    But I find it sad that people will exploit their own kids for gain. They are imho the lowest of the low.

    And isn't it interesting that some other details are starting to come out which doesn't look good for her.

    A drain on society is what this woman is, shame she had to load six kids on to the state to look after too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,129 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Headline on RTE 9 News!

    I don't watch TV anymore now, but I am really surprised that the RTE propaganda machine is still operating, given that the world and its mother knows the lady in question is questionable to say the least of it.

    Must be because RTE think people cannot use Social Media, and it may be directed at an (ahem) slightly non techie viewership. Must be.

    But we know more!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    I agree with the waiting list.
    These stunts have the bleeding hearts out in thrir droves.
    I get tired of reading about people who want to be housed but only in specific areas. Funnily enough they arent always in employment so why be so fussy.
    Plus kids will settle into school anywhere given a chance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭freddie1970


    Just watched it on the news ..Even my 70 year old mother cant believe it ..How the fook can u have 7 kids when u have no home has she even heard off contraception why do we need to listen to this ..


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