Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

Sleeper12 · 09-08-2018 08:07PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

Housing or homeless crisis?

Both. Both are linked so tight it hurts. Both are the blame of Enda Kenny

MFPM · 09-08-2018 08:07PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Eh no.

I standby it, the media is full of left ring idiots who lap these false stories up for headlines.

You standing by it doesn't make it true, it's your opinion but your opinion needs evidence and thus far you haven't provided any.

09-08-2018 08:08PM

tomofson wrote: »

I agree that these children have very little hope unfortunately but you cant determine how a person future will work out based on the fact they stuck their finger up at a camera when they where 6 or 7 years of age, thats just ridiculous.

Yeah I never said that it would. I'm saying if he's doing it at his age already around his parents, it's unlikely he licked it off a stone and they probably don't mind him doing it. It's bloody sad is my point.

Sleeper12 · 09-08-2018 08:08PM

gordongekko wrote:

Jesus its â‚¬980 a month in child allowance

Not to mention what she gets in lone parents on top of that

MFPM · 09-08-2018 08:10PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Those who do not work should not require housing within the Dublin area. Why would they? Be honest now. There are plenty of places around the country where they could be housed, but Dublin is not a place for housing you if you are not contributing, only taking and demanding.

There is a lot of anger on this thread about takers. Most of us have contributed to society by working, paying taxes, high rents, mortgages, considering a second (yes) a second child, paying commuting and childcare costs. A lot of our hard work goes into funding the lifestyle choices of others who do not contribute at all, but take, take, take,

And then take to FB if they don't get exactly what they want.

The world has definitely gone mad.

I bet there is no journo out there who will take them in to their homes. Oh no.

Housing priority within the Dublin Region should be for productive taxpaying, law abiding citizens.

What a charmer you are, are you suggesting that those not productive taxpayers should be evicted to make room for your chosen people?

Fann Linn · 09-08-2018 08:10PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Not to mention what she gets in lone parents on top of that

Plus the back to school allowance. No end to it.

end of the road · 09-08-2018 08:10PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I genuinely question why socal services won't be looking at protecting her children from tomorrow onwards. The child isn't always better with the mother. Sometimes the mother harms her children by exploiting them. Maybe the children need to be removed?

because the children aren't in any actual danger. removing the children and quite likely splitting them up would quite likely do more harm then good. not to mention stretch resources that are needed for serious cases.

Mutant z wrote: »

Why does she have 6 children if she's in that situation its funny how she isnt asked that question what sort of person would put her own children through that.

because realistically it's a pointless question. it's not one that is going to be answered and realistically at this stage it's to late to be complaining about her having children as she has already had them. as for why she would put them through having to sleep in a garda station, well i'd imagine it's because at the moment she has nowhere else to go.

Alrigghtythen · 09-08-2018 08:12PM

end of the road wrote: »

because the children aren't in any actual danger. removing the children and quite likely splitting them up would quite likely do more harm then good. not to mention stretch resources that are needed for serious cases.

because realistically it's a pointless question. it's not one that is going to be answered and realistically at this stage it's to late to be complaining about her having children as she has already had them. as for why she would put them through having to sleep in a garda station, well i'd imagine it's because at the moment she has nowhere else to go.

She had a place in meath to go to

MFPM · 09-08-2018 08:13PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Plus the back to school allowance. No end to it.

Are you suggesting she shouldn't get tax allowance?

Tell me are you equally concerned about chief executives running multi nationals here getting tax allowances for their children's private education or is just poor people you have an issue with?

Gatling · 09-08-2018 08:14PM

end of the road wrote: »

as for why she would put them through having to sleep in a garda station, well i'd imagine it's because at the moment she has nowhere else to go.

Or she's playing the sympathy game

Spanish Eyes · 09-08-2018 08:14PM

MFPM wrote: »

What a charmer you are, are you suggesting that those not productive taxpayers should be evicted to make room for your chosen people?

In the so called Crisis we are having I think it is time to prioritise taxpaying productive workers now. Far too much time has been given to the scammers and their supporters, and I include the homeless "charities" that are funded by the taxpayer too. The message is all one sided.

I don't see any argument to the contrary coming from you though. And I notice that you failed to comment on the fact that productive taxpayers are on a double whammy here.... paying through the nose for themselves and paying for others too.

Shoo.

Sleeper12 · 09-08-2018 08:15PM

MFPM wrote:

Many of the comments on this thread are disgusting filled with hysterical ranting against one woman. All of this in a week when we have witnessed I-Res reporting â‚¬69.5 million in profits furthermore despite a decline in private rental transactions across Europe, Dublin bucks the trend and is positively booming....

I hate to burst your bubble but the thread is about this one woman. She has exploited her children to try cheat others ahead of her on the housing list. It's now obvious that everything was staged. She not only knew that she was becoming homeless but she turned down housing offers. She appears to be a horrible mother and I genuinely question why social services haven't stepped in already. I don't believe that the children are in good hands

Yer Da sells Avon · 09-08-2018 08:16PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Not much. Look at the kid in the green t-shirt there giving the fingers to the camera. I'd have been grounded for that at this age! Prob learned it off the folks. I know it's not major but I hate seeing that with kids that size. It's horrible.

That made me laugh. Almost every childhood photo of my brother (who turned out fine), from around the age of five upwards, features him making a rude gesture to the camera. He got plenty of slaps for it, which only encouraged him to do it more subtly. His hand even had to be cropped out of one of his communion photographs.

Spanish Eyes · 09-08-2018 08:17PM

MFPM wrote: »

Are you suggesting she shouldn't get tax allowance?

Tell me are you equally concerned about chief executives running multi nationals here getting tax allowances for their children's private education or is just poor people you have an issue with?

There is tax relief for 3rd level education fees for everyone, but none for private schooling up to LC.

But carry on anyway.

Sleeper12 · 09-08-2018 08:19PM

end of the road wrote:

because the children aren't in any actual danger. removing the children and quite likely splitting them up would quite likely do more harm then good. not to mention stretch resources that are needed for serious cases.

She has now been proven to be exploiting her children. I don't believe that they are safe with her. You can't /shouldn't use your children like that

goose2005 · 09-08-2018 08:20PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

John looks able bodied in that photo is there a reason he cant get a fcuking job to support his children?

if he did, or if he married her, she would lose the very lucrative One parent family payment (possibly €20k per annum)

This is probably him, but he has a common name so it's hard to be sure:

Three men from the Travelling community in Dublin were charged at Castlebar District Court this week for handling stolen goods.
...
John McCarthy, 28 Swiftbrook Avenue, Tallaght ... The court heard how McCarthy (22 ) has previous convictions for theft and road traffic

http://www.advertiser.ie/mayo/article/6476/prison-for-men-who-handled-stolen-goods

MFPM · 09-08-2018 08:20PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I hate to burst your bubble but the thread is about this one woman. She has exploited her children to try cheat others ahead of her on the housing list. It's now obvious that everything was staged. She not only knew that she was becoming homeless but she turned down housing offers. She appears to be a horrible mother and I genuinely question why social services haven't stepped in already. I don't believe that the children are in good hands

You're not bursting any bubble you just reconfirming my point well the bit you were capable of responding too that is!

She appears to be a horrible mother

Judging by this post you appear to be a thoroughly objectionable person with little humanity and an awful lot of judgement.

I genuinely question why social services haven't stepped in already. I don't believe that the children are in good hands

Thankfully people with your attitudes don't get to make that decision and if you have kids I hope they grow up with more humanity than you have.

goose2005 · 09-08-2018 08:23PM

Samsgirl wrote: »

If she has a ****ty life, it's of her own making. Homeless today, buying crystal a few days ago.

i somehow doubt she paid the sticker price for that crystal...

dav3 · 09-08-2018 08:23PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

In the so called Crisis we are having I think it is time to prioritise taxpaying productive workers now. Far too much time has been given to the scammers and their supporters, and I include the homeless "charities" that are funded by the taxpayer too. The message is all one sided.

I don't see any argument to the contrary coming from you though. And I notice that you failed to comment on the fact that productive taxpayers are on a double whammy here.... paying through the nose for themselves and paying for others too.

Shoo.

What shall we do with all these common folk taking up valuable real estate in the Dublin? The cost of deporting them all to Leitrim would be astronomical.

yosser hughes · 09-08-2018 08:23PM

MFPM wrote: »

Who would they be now?

Pat Kenny
Sean O'Rourke
Paul Williams
Marian Finucane
Ivan Yeats
Stephen Collins

FFS.

Your dishonesty does your argument no favours...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/denis-o-brien-s-media-power-must-be-addressed-report-says-1.2840470

yep deluded.

Fintan O'Toole
Kitty Holland
Vincent Browne
Joe Duffy
Philip boucher Hayes
Kieran Cuddihy
Colette Browne
Sarah McInerney
Patrick Freyne
Conor Hunt

That' just off the top of my head and Sean O'Rourke or Maria Finucane aren't particularly right wing either.
I could go on and on and on.

Left wing opinions dominate in our media.

It's indoctrinated in them from their times studying sociology and arts degrees in college which is also left wing dominated.

Mutant z · 09-08-2018 08:26PM

end of the road wrote: »

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I genuinely question why socal services won't be looking at protecting her children from tomorrow onwards. The child isn't always better with the mother. Sometimes the mother harms her children by exploiting them. Maybe the children need to be removed?

because the children aren't in any actual danger. removing the children and quite likely splitting them up would quite likely do more harm then good. not to mention stretch resources that are needed for serious cases.

Mutant z wrote: »

Why does she have 6 children if she's in that situation its funny how she isnt asked that question what sort of person would put her own children through that.

because realistically it's a pointless question. it's not one that is going to be answered and realistically at this stage it's to late to be complaining about her having children as she has already had them. as for why she would put them through having to sleep in a garda station, well i'd imagine it's because at the moment she has nowhere else to go.

She was offered a place in Meath but she turned it down who's fault is that.

yosser hughes · 09-08-2018 08:28PM

MFPM wrote: »

You're not bursting any bubble you just reconfirming my point well the bit you were capable of responding too that is!

Judging by this post you appear to be a thoroughly objectionable person with little humanity and an awful lot of judgement.

Thankfully people with your attitudes don't get to make that decision and if you have kids I hope they grow up with more humanity than you have.

Your type of 'humanity' keeps those kids and kids like them in abusive situations.

Spanish Eyes · 09-08-2018 08:28PM

dav3 wrote: »

What shall we do with all these common folk taking up valuable real estate in the Dublin? The cost of deporting them all to Leitrim would be astronomical.

Leitrim is a very unspoilt part of the country.

Anyway doesn't have to be that far from Dublin either. And the sunk cost will be minimal in the long run. But I gather there is some rule that local Authorities cannot place people on their housing list outside their area or something.

If that is true, well then Eoghan Murphy needs a kick up the eighties or something like that

Yer Da sells Avon · 09-08-2018 08:29PM

yosser hughes wrote: »

Your type of 'humanity' keeps those kids and kids like them in abusive situations.

They look well-nourished and healthy, considering their circumstances.

Sleeper12 · 09-08-2018 08:30PM

MFPM wrote:

Judging by this post you appear to be a thoroughly objectionable person with little humanity and an awful lot of judgement.

I have no soft feelings for someone who can exploit their children in such a way. She kept them out of real beds last night hoping to cheat another family also with kids out of their chance of a home.

Why can you not feel for family that she tried to steal a home from? Do they have to stage a photo shoot in the Garda station to be real to you?

She has already turned down a home and then has the cheek to slag off the council.

Spanish Eyes · 09-08-2018 08:30PM

yosser hughes wrote: »

yep deluded.

Fintan O'Toole
Kitty Holland
Vincent Browne
Joe Duffy
Philip boucher Hayes
Kieran Cuddihy
Colette Browne
Sarah McInerney
Patrick Freyne
Conor Hunt

That' just off the top of my head and Sean O'Rourke or Maria Finucane aren't particularly right wing either.
I could go on and on and on.

Left wing opinions dominate in our media.

It's indoctrinated in them from their times studying sociology and arts degrees in college which is also left wing dominated.

I reckon that instead of Left or Right, it should be called "aspirational and la la land" or "realistic and respectful to the taxpayer"

We all know which of those epithets is left or right now surely!

MFPM · 09-08-2018 08:30PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

In the so called Crisis we are having I think it is time to prioritise taxpaying productive workers now. Far too much time has been given to the scammers and their supporters, and I include the homeless "charities" that are funded by the taxpayer too. The message is all one sided.

I don't see any argument to the contrary coming from you though. And I notice that you failed to comment on the fact that productive taxpayers are on a double whammy here.... paying through the nose for themselves and paying for others too.

Shoo.

In the so called Crisis

Are you suggesting there is no crisis?

I think it is time to prioritise taxpaying productive workers now.

You are aware that many many people who are taxpaying productive workers are caught up in the 'so called' crisis? Secondly how would you suggest just this cohort of people are prioritized - higher wages, less stringent banking regulations...enlighten us?

Far too much time has been given to the scammers and their supporters,

You negate any argument you have with the use of that term.

I don't see any argument to the contrary coming from you though

If you bothered to read my post you'll note I said the problem is because of an over dependence on the private market to provide housing and the refusal of the state to actively build a substantial number of social and affordable houses - the solutions are quite simple but the government will not engage with them.

paying through the nose for themselves and paying for others too.

Again put your glasses on and read, I specifically made the point about the how the taxpayers subsidies the profits of the REITs to the tune of millions but you didn't notice that because you were too busy propagating your indignation at this one woman and her children.

Now when you get over that indignation and you want an intelligent debate on the housing crisis let me know otherwise p!ss off back to indignantville.

yosser hughes · 09-08-2018 08:32PM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

They look well-nourished and healthy, considering their circumstances.

and 'sleeping' in a garda station when they didn't have to?

MFPM · 09-08-2018 08:32PM

yosser hughes wrote: »

Your type of 'humanity' keeps those kids and kids like them in abusive situations.

Do tell me how?...Oh, kind of ironic name you have there given your apathy for this woman and her family.

harr · 09-08-2018 08:32PM

http://www.pressreader.com/ireland/enniscorthy-guardian/20171212/281779924469721

Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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